Due Jan 2010 - watching our beans grow into bumps :-)

[sazlocks]

As we all talk so fast the last thread is nearly full so thought I would start us off on a new one

Hi & welcome SuiGeneris,

I've updated the list.

1 singalongamumum (DS 18mth)
1 Alibobins (DS5 DD9)
1 ClaireDB (1st baby)
2 Lisylou1980
3 salvadory (1st Baby)
3 liny
3 sunshinejanuary 1st Baby - South London
3 Bethoo (DS 2 DD 8 mon)- Wiltshire
4 pepa (DS 3.5, DD 18mth) Toronto, Canada
5 Dizzyclarebear (1st baby) - SE london
5 timmette (DS 3)
6 oomska (DD 13mo)
6 crumpette (2nd DC)
6 gizzy1973 (1st baby)
7 lynneevans51 (DS 10 yr; DD 6 yr) - N Ldn
8 STA1mum (DS15mth)
10 Zen1980 (1st baby)
10 lizzylu (DS 14mths)
10 Somewhathorrified
10 kittykat765 (DS 19mth) Bristol
11 Katiei (DS)
11 anastaisia (dd b2005)
11 lilacpink (DD 3)
12 roastbeef
13 skidoodle (DD 13mo)
13 LessThenIdeal
13 Sleepingalot, (1st baby) Sheffield
13 londonlottie (1st baby) - London SE5/SE22
13 Liskey (1st baby)
15 lynchy09 (DS14mth)
15 Sersi (DS1 6, DS2 4) HERTS
15 Worriedunfortunately (DD 4y)
16 DesertFairy (DD3)
16 ampster (DS 11mo)
16 ILoveDolly
17 slightlybonkers (DS 3yo)
17 MrsStripey (DS15mo)
18 alfiesmadmother (DS1 7,DS2 5 and DS3 3)
18 dal21 (DS 20 mths)
18 Southwestwhippet (First baby)
19 SuiGeneris
20 sooooexcited (DS 2)
20 showmethemummy (2 DCs)
20 verytiredmummy (DS)
20 Totalmisfit (DD 3.4) Norfolk
21 quirkychick (DD 3.5) Norfolk
21 Mowmi (1st baby) Surrey
23 AutumnAir (1st baby)
24 Sazlocks (DS 18mo), Shropshire
24 Blocka (DD 32mo), North East
24 Laura233
24 coffeeicecream (DS 9mo), NW London
24 MamaLazarou (1st baby)
24 Biccy (DD 3)
25 FlightofFancy (1st baby), Surrey
25 Noodlesforbreakfast
25 Iateallthecreameggsyummy
27 devotion
29 helenabeth (DS1 4.5, DS2 20mths)
29 louii
30 nervoussara, Brighton
30 (or thereabouts!) anniemac (DD 4)
31 laurawantsababy (DD 11mo)
31 IrrationalMother (DS 18mo)
[?] Miss Chatterbox (DD1 4 DD2 2)
[?] Beanz2 (DS 13mo)
[?] Fififorgot, South

The ones that have lost their little ones:
VivClicqot
beanieb
coffeeandcarrotcake
Rainbowdays
EsmeandDante
bluespix77
AmyLou32
st arshaker
The Kurgan

Hi all, just thought I'd drop in and say hi as I haven't posted for a few days.

Welcome to louii, devotion and SuiGeneris.

Crumpette, I'm sorry about your grandma; I'm sorry, I can't remember when the funeral is, but I hope you got/get through it ok. My grandma died very quickly of lung cancer last summer, but she didn't want a funeral, so we followed her wishes, but it has always felt a bit unfinished... so, while funerals are hard (especially for you this year) I think going to it is probably the right thing, even if you skip the 'social' bit.

Alibobins, I am keeping my fingers crossed that the medication works for dd. It sounds just like something a friend of mine's mum has had this year, where the immune system attacked her body (again, her eyes), and I know the meds worked for her.

Saw a chiropracter today, who was lovely, and I think will help with my sacroilliac/hip problem (sorry about spelling there) - she doesn't think it's SPD, so that's good. Hope I don't have to go too often though as I can't really afford it... she said the pilates was a very good idea. I have tried it once, and really liked it; just got to try and work it into the week a bit more...

Also finally conquered fear of maternity clothes in shops, and got myself a pair of jeans and a couple of tops in the sale in Gap, so along with all the stuff I have been lent in the last week, I'm quite nicely off for clothes now.

Bump is thankfully now pretty obviously a baby bump as opposed to a beer belly, which I find a relief (even if it is 'too early' as the men in my life seem to be telling me constantly..), and I really thought I felt something this morning, but nothing since, so probably my optimistic imagination. Just can't wait to start feeling it.

DD still very excited about it, though she is determined it is a girl and refers to it as 'her'... I have to say every time 'might be a boy'. She's a bit concerned about the baby having no windows to look out of though. She's also started role-playing, putting one of her small dolls under her top, and then the baby 'pops out'. She makes it look so easy... So far no questions as to how the baby got there, or how it's going to get out, but any advice from those of you who have been there before gratefully received, as I have no idea how I would answer either of those questions!

Right, really really must go and do some work now...

Goodness, sorry for the extra long post...

evening all
welcome suigeneris, louii and devotion

Now 13 + 2 and feeling a bit more normal today which is a relief. Although like a few others I am bored of waking up to go for a wee every night, sometimes several times a night!

Am feeling very bad tempered and hormonal tonight so am going to take myself off to bed in the hope that I wake up with a more sunny and pleasant disposition in the morning

Ok...another strange thing going on! Does anyone elses belly button feel like it's being stretched open... and it's going to pop open any time soon?

Yes for urge to wee lots (but mainly when I stand-up to move/walk, not at night)

Yes belly button is already going soft this time around (didn't flatten until final trimester last time).

Stomach muscles are already giving up any hope of holding bump 'up' (maybe why I haven't had heartburn this time - instead of going up, it's just hanging out).

I also have v. slightly crusty nipples (sorry if TMI!!).

Thanks again for well wishes: I think things have def settled (hope to hear heartbeat with midwife this Fri).

This is a sympathetic message to all those suffering from headaches, etc. We will all get through this and it will all be worth it in the end.

I'd like to feel relaxed and sleepy at night as opposed to completely hyper. Last night I woke up convinced there was somebody walking in the bedroom. It was so scary. As my husband was sleeping in the other room (due to my back hurting and my not managing to get comfy) I called out 'is that you?'. No answer. I was terrified and spent a good few minutes unable to move wondering if I could take the risk of getting up and going to see him. Since we've moved to a new house with trees all around us and we had lots of windows open last night cos it was so hot I was worried somebody or a cat, perhaps, had got in.

I am not going mad, really!

gosh this group is growing and growing. wecome to the newbies and hope that all is well.
sorry to hear about all the headaches, though i have had a few, i take the occasional paracetamol. could be weather related as i get them when it is a bit muggy.
i am still recovering from a cold but hope to hit Pilates tonight.
talking about hormones i am apparantly a horrible person and my dp left me last night. so still in two minds really whether i want him back or not as he is a bit controlling anyway. i mean surely having a bay for someone is the ultimate proof that you love someone? not according to my dp sadly, apparantly i must have been having affairs with hundreds of blokes since we have been together! i am just wondering when i fitted them all in during work then the kids and him virtually living with me!

Hi, everyone. Well I had my scan today. I was really nervous, but it all went well. So I have updated my details with a due date. It all feels a bit more real now.
1 singalongamumum (DS 18mth)
1 Alibobins (DS5 DD9)
1 ClaireDB (1st baby)
2 Lisylou1980
3 salvadory (1st Baby)
3 liny
3 sunshinejanuary 1st Baby - South London
3 Bethoo (DS 2 DD 8 mon)- Wiltshire
4 pepa (DS 3.5, DD 18mth) Toronto, Canada
5 Dizzyclarebear (1st baby) - SE london
5 timmette (DS 3)
6 oomska (DD 13mo)
6 crumpette (2nd DC)
6 gizzy1973 (1st baby)
7 lynneevans51 (DS 10 yr; DD 6 yr) - N Ldn
8 STA1mum (DS15mth)
10 Zen1980 (1st baby)
10 lizzylu (DS 14mths)
10 Somewhathorrified
10 kittykat765 (DS 19mth) Bristol
11 Katiei (DS)
11 anastaisia (dd b2005)
11 lilacpink (DD 3)
12 roastbeef
13 skidoodle (DD 13mo)
13 LessThenIdeal
13 Sleepingalot, (1st baby) Sheffield
13 londonlottie (1st baby) - London SE5/SE22
13 Liskey (1st baby)
15 lynchy09 (DS14mth)
15 Sersi (DS1 6, DS2 4) HERTS
15 Worriedunfortunately (DD 4y)
16 DesertFairy (DD3)
16 ampster (DS 11mo)
16 ILoveDolly
17 slightlybonkers (DS 3yo)
17 MrsStripey (DS15mo)
18 alfiesmadmother (DS1 7,DS2 5 and DS3 3)
18 dal21 (DS 20 mths)
18 Southwestwhippet (First baby)
19 SuiGeneris
20 sooooexcited (DS 2)
20 showmethemummy (2 DCs)
20 verytiredmummy (DS)
20 Totalmisfit (DD 3.4) Norfolk
21 quirkychick (DD 3.5) Norfolk
21 Mowmi (1st baby) Surrey
23 AutumnAir (1st baby)
24 Sazlocks (DS 18mo), Shropshire
24 Blocka (DD 32mo), North East
24 Laura233
24 coffeeicecream (DS 9mo), NW London
24 MamaLazarou (1st baby)
24 Biccy (DD 3)
25 FlightofFancy (1st baby), Surrey
25 Noodlesforbreakfast
25 Iateallthecreameggsyummy
25 Misschatterbox (dd1 4.5; DD2 2.5)
27 devotion
29 helenabeth (DS1 4.5, DS2 20mths)
29 louii
30 nervoussara, Brighton
30 (or thereabouts!) anniemac (DD 4)
31 laurawantsababy (DD 11mo)
31 IrrationalMother (DS 18mo)
[?] Beanz2 (DS 13mo)
[?] Fififorgot, South

Whoa Bethoo - that was quite a night then!! Just what you don't need when hormones are raging!!! Listen I'm sure we are all horrible people at the moment - indeed, I just don't recognise myself most days. My last pregnancy with my DH I hated him with a vengeance - in fact, I wished he'd leave most of the time. He was quite awful and I would have been better off on my own (I know because I went through my first on my own). This time (3rd), he's lovely and very supportive so can't complain really.

whatever happens and whatever you end up deciding (and make sure YOU decide)... know that it will all be OK in the end. Loneliness can be far greater if you are with the wrong person than alone....

Wow bethoo that was a bad night and I thought mine was bad because I couldn't sleep - yikes.
Well have had scan today I am 16 weeks and all is well and my little girl is most definately a boy - lol

Oh,Bethoo I think your dp is being horrible for not taking into account that you are pg! Of course you are not going to be sweetness and light. I hope everything works out however you decide/wish.

Alibobins keeping my fingers crossed for your DD and that the meds work.

I have just spent 2 nights in hospital with DD as she had another asthma attack . Due to the swine flu we had a bit of trouble getting her seen but the Children's Assessment Unit took us in as it was asthma. The NHS Direct line was down, A&E told us not to come as it was full of people with sf and the Our of Hours dr couldn't phone us back for 5 hrs!!! FWIW the nurses were not particularly bothered by sf and said that really everyone has probably been in contact already.

Luckily I wasn't too sick in the hospital I was but absolutely shattered, DD was initially being checked every 1/2hr the first night. I have made up for it today as been very sick this am. I had splitting headache yesterday too, but I was very sleep deprived.

bethoo so sorry to hear about DP's accusations, not what you need to hear at any time, nvm when you have all the preggy shit going on. Good luck with whatever you decide to do about it....remember we're all here if you need to vent.

Oh my goodness Bethoo. I am so sorry you're going thru this. My daughter's dad became living hell shortly after she was born and disappeared off the face of the earth when she was 2 (shortly after I'd moved to France and knew absolutely nobody). I have to say that my daughter is brilliant and that we had - and still have - the best relationship. During the time when he was/wasn't around (from birth to 2) he was AWFUL. Agressive, uncaring, irresponsible. Once he forced me to leave our house with my 8 month daughter simply because he'd just had a fax line installed which meant he couldn't be the one to go. Can you imagine?

I don't know what you will decide. We all go through ups and downs, even in the best of relationships but as has already been written, don't be afraid of being a single parent. There are loads of perfectly well balanced, happy children brought up by one parent.

Ok, I had my appointment with the genetics specialist at the university hospital here in Tours (a very impressive in a nice kinda way, the hospital, I mean) to discuss the amnio. Ladies, it's a miracle any of us choose to have children whey you hear about all the possible genetic problems which exist! Naturally the advisor would not give us an opinion as to whether I should have the amnio, or not. She simply explained the stats, some of which went over my head! We still haven't decided although I think I will probably do the tripple blood test. After my scan, which estimated my risk of DS at 1/344, the doctor said it was worth taking into consideration the 1/200 risk of mc after the amnio. At the Tours Hospital this test is carried out with all the surgical paraphenalia to ensure maximum sterility, nevertheless they still fall in the 1/200 stats. The lady explained that the amnio was the only 100% way of putting one's mind at rest. I guess I will do the tripple test (to buy time) and to see if my risk factor goes up.

I really don't know what to do. I guess before I had my scan I just assumed I would have to do it since I am 40 but now I have the choice, well, it's not easy. Our gentic family tree did not ring any alarm bells, according to the specialist.

Sorry to be a bore, but do any of you have any advice?

It is really up to you Jardins, I guess the question to ask is what would you do if the child has down syndrom... would you keep it anyway? 1/344 is a very small chance so i guess it depends if you are going to worry about it all the pregnancy...

Feeling not too well today, headache and sore throat... no fever so hopefully not swine flu...so hoping paracetamol will help.

Jardins - as Liny says, you really need to work out what you would do IF you found out that the baby had a genetic disorder first. I'm 40 and had the combined test with nuchal at 12 weeks and was delighted to find out my risk was 1:11,000. I presumed it would be around the base figure of 1:250. Had it been low risk, I would have had the CVS and would have terminated if confirmed. We already worked that out but its a personal decision. I think you would terminate - have the tests, if youre not sure - its worth considering just waiting.... Good luck!

Hi All,

my tuppence worth for this evening!

jardins i would agree with the others, it boils down to what decisions you think you would make if you found there might be genetic anomilies. My husband and I decided to have the Nuchal testing just to find out if we were considered high risk. We felt we would carry on with the pregnancy even if the child had a genetic condition such as Downs and would simply want to use the test to find out if we were high risk and therefore could research anything we might need to know to care for the child once it was born. Given these were our feelings we would have seen the amnio as too larger risk. We were very lucky indeed and have been told that our risk is 1;23000 even though i am 31. I really feel that there is no other advice i can offer than just to do what feels right for you.

Bethoo so sorry to hear that your DP is causing you so much grief. It must be making life very stressful for you.

quirkychick your poor little petal, i hope you are both feeling a lot better now you are home.

misschatterbox so glad your scan went well! I had a real epiphany after the scan - 'this is really happening'!!

As for me, work is having a drama about the swine flu and pregnant women, they have now done a risk assessment on me! As far as i am concerned if anyone in the office gets it i will work from home. No point getting too worked up yet!

sunshine you are low risk at 31 sausage i am 32 and have not had my results back from my triple test but should find out tomorrow for my 16 week checkup though if there is something wrong (as also had STI check) then they would have contacted me earlier.
thanks ladies for your support. i guess i was hoping that what with this being my third child with another man (the other 2 have same dad who prefered to spend his cash on cocaine) i thought that i would have a good one as he was great with my other tow but at waht expense? sick of his insecurities and paranioa! bad enough that i had to delete all ex partners and attractive men from facebook within a month of dating! should have seen the signs.
oh my god jsut forgotten about the baby who i have just checked on and is slumped asleep in the highchair!
me and ds are enjoying chips and gravy tonight as sod low carb eating today as need comfort food!alibobins hope your dd is responding well to treatment.
crumpette i have heard about blood test for sex as apparantly at 7 weeks pregnant you can detect the baby DNA in your blood but it is only 70% accurate, it was on another thread.

Hello all

bethoo your dp sounds like mine. I think if he's actually really left, think twice about everything before having him back. I had over a year with dd and dp causing absolute hell. He is currently behaving (just) but I would have been freer, happier, a better parent as a single parent so whichever way you go don't feel bad. I wonder if I should be taking my own advice!

jardins like everyone said, do consider the risk and what you would do if you found there was a problem. Your risk is still pretty low, and the triple blood test is a really accurate way of detecting cause for concern. Personally I'd have the blood test and then see what the adjusted risk became.

timmette! congratulations another boy on the thread, join me! then again, if you were told girl at your early scan and it is boy and I was told boy who knows what it will turn out as, may be a really strange girl for me....!!!

My work are being ridiculous. When I went back from my leave recently I was asked to work lates, as in stay in the office til 7 or 8. I said 'no'! I have today got a message requesting I change my usual working hours to lates, as in 10.30-7 or 11.30-8 ''in view of your condition...'' with the emphasis being avoiding travel on the tube when crowded with swine flu sufferers!

Nice try, but I think my response will be a resounding NO! I usually get into the city by car anyway and I am a little irritated that they think they can pretend it is in my best interests (er yeah to stay at work til 8pm when increasingly pregnant?)

sorry for that vent! No other news, except I am soooo hungry right now I could eat my laptop

sorry bethoo I cross-posted, I too have heard it's not accurate always but am sorely tempted. I don't get a scan til mid/end September and I want to know now!! Maybe I should as an experiment!

Thanks sunshinejanuary, she's a lot better now but I think it's going to be a long term thing, really.

Bethoo have you got lots of support in RL, even just for practical stuff? Hope things work out whichever way is best for you.

crumpette your work sounds dreadful! In complete contrast my old boss phoned up, I had written to him explaining I wouldn't be available for supply teaching in sept as now pg, to see that I was well. Why can't everyone be so kind? Do they want you falling asleep on the job or something...

Hi all,

I'm another one with a sore throat and blocked nose - feeling sorry for myself. I think its just a cold - as no temperature but did phone the midwife as I'm meant to be having bloods taken tomorrow for 15 week tests. Her advice: if you feel worse call GP's for meds and we can take the bloods next week and that there's been a lot of hype in the media about swine flu.

I think I'd agree with that really. Normally if you got a sore throat you wouldn't be panicking about flu. I had flu early this year and felt like death - I agree with the picking up of the £50 note!

Hi everyone! I thought I would joing this group as I am currently 14w +6d pregnant with my 3rd baby. I'm hoping for a girl to compliment my 2 boys DD 15th Jan 2010, but as I'm in Auckland,New Zealand my DD is really 14th Jan in the UK (if that makes sense!)

Crumpette do you have a line-manager who you could talk to about all the problems with work (lack of sympathy, pay reduction for awhile and now pressure to work late)? Or HR dept who may help? I just wondered if you could involve someone else to get more support.

Bethoo as others have said here: I've had a rocky relationship. For the past 5 months all has been fairly stable and I can for the first time in about 3.5 yrs imagine it staying stable (I've been with DH for 12 years now, and only had probs after we had our DD). We're both calmer this time around, and think have passed the worst. Hope things go well for you soon too.

Hi crumpette she did warn when she did the nuchal she may be wrong about the sex - I don't mind it is so obviously a boy in the scan photo - am quite happy about it already have one ds and he is great - although would have liked the chance for pink things - this is our last baby.
I can't believe the way your work behaves - stay strong and ignore them.

For everyone with a sore throat and headache my sis has this and has tonsillitis according to her doc - it is also making it's rounds at the moment.