Due November 2009: Second trimester thread!

[turtle23]

New thread for you as it was geting a bit big...

Becky your poor DS. I really feel sorry for him. I know from my school how mean children can be, but that sounds like bullying. Wasn't the teacher on duty able to stop this incident? I know it's not possible to see everything, but today's thing sounded fairly major. If I was the teacher, the two Jacks wouldn't be having a playtime for the rest of the week. Oh and good luck with your 20 week scan tomorrow.

Also started Cloud Atlas only to not get very far... Am reading 'If minds had toes' at the minute, which I am loving. Think it is by Lucy Eyre. Kind of a philosophy book as well as a novel, which I like, in a geeky way!

Have also been worrying about the weight thing. I have put on 6 lbs so far. Think it is mostly around my bump, which apparently is huge, but not sure. My thighs feel a bit bigger though. Just scared of ballooning in the last trimester. Ladies who've done it before, do you think you generally lose most of it fairly quickly, or is it a real effort of dieting/exercise madness?! A parent of a child I teach told me I was too big for 19 weeks today BUT another parent of a child has given me a huge, beautifully wrapped baby present and hand-made card - am waiting 'til DH gets in to open it, but how sweet is that? She is lovely!

Katster I think I will talk to his class teacher tomorrow. She hasn't actually said anything about what has been happening to me herself yet: I've only heard via the boy's mum, my friend, and what DS1 has told me. I realise she wants to nip it in the bud by going to the source but it would be nice for her to just talk to me about what she's been doing and how she is approaching it.

I think everyone loses their pregnancy weight at different rates. I have so far with the first two pregnancies been very lucky in that the weight has fallen off me quite quickly, within weeks, except a bit of a wobbly tummy which stays forever which I think everyone has unless they ar famous and have surgery or a personal trainer.

How sweet to get a present and card

I feel huge for 19 weeks.

Oh dear DS1 is now as I type this trying on my bra from the washing basket!!!! He's so funny.

Hey all, hope you're all okay.

Just popping by quickly - managed to land myself in the labour ward yesterday and am still quite freaked out. I had really bad period-like pains under my bump, they started on Saturday night, then eased off on Sunday, then came back with a vengance yesterday. Evetually got hold of my midwife and she told me to go to the hospital. Got there, and the ante-natal unit was closed, so had to go up to labour, which terrified me in itself. Then when I was seen, they couldn't find the heartbeat. She got a bigger machine, and managed to, said the baby must have just been hiding, but I don't think I've ever been more terrified in my life. Today I've been a bit better, trying to take it easy, but that's gone out the window - am just heading out to a friends birthday.

I also recieved an email today from one of my supposed friends who declared that my child would be better being adopted. She still seems utterly convinced she was quite within her rights to say so. I decided to respond, and told her that if that was her style of friendship, I most certainly did not want to be involved with it. Am slightly annoyed with myself as I did swear and loose my cool, but in saying that, I was so infuriated and upset by what she said in the first place, I guess my reaction was justified.

I'm sorry I haven't had the time to read through all the messages and respond, I will when I get back in - won't be sleeping well tonight, social services meeting tomorrow!!

Hugs to you all. x

Katster, I think that the general rule of thumb re. pregnancy weight is nine months on, nine months off. (I have a personal, entirely unsubstantiated theory that if you lose it all too fast, you're more likely to get the wrinkly elephant skin around your middle!)

I didn't really start losing weight from nursing until DS was properly on solids, when he was ten months old - it was as if my body wanted to hang on to some extra stores while I was his sole source of nourishment. Once he was eating one or two proper meals a day, the nursing really knocked all the weight off, and then some - was down a full two dress sizes from pre-pregnancy by the time he was 14 months.

bbl so sorry for your little boy, it must be horrible for you too seeing how upset he is, my heart really goes out to both of you. I hope the teacher dishes out a suitable punishment to these boys, can they not split them up as it sounds like they just egg each other on? Your boy sounds lovely, I hope this all blows over soon. Oh, and good luck for your scan tomorrow!

I got down to my pre-pregnancy weight from ds after about 8-9 months but to be honest my tummy has never recovered! Even with a personal trainer it was still a bit wobbly, although was improving until I got pregnant again! This time round I am going to exercise sooner after the birth in the hope that I will get back to some sort of normality. Failing that, there is always Liposuction

Erika glad you are ok, must have been quite scary for you, try and rest up and don't let these so called friends wind you up too much.

Tamlin - very at your weight loss, i think i've just had minetoo close together to get all the weight off, but i suppose i noticed it coming off around 5/6 monthsish, but was pregnant again when DD was 10 months and then again (this time) when DS was 7 months. This is def going to be the last time, so when am up ad running i intend to acually do something about it this time and swim or go to the gym (in all that spare tme i'll have?!?!), but didn't see point before as i knew we were planning on being pregnant again soonish.

Becky - feel so sorry for you and your DS. The thought of someone not liking, or worse sill bulling any of mine makes me want to cry (none hit school age yet!), not sure how i would deal with it, but must be very hard.

DH gone out walking the dog, he's made it very clear he's afte some 'action' tonight - can't think of anything further from my mind! however it has been an awful long time poor bloke!

Helips - a friend of mine had liposuction and a boobjob after she had had her 2 DCs! She is married to a footballer mind!

ErikaMaye poor you that must have been very frightening. Glad you and your little one are ok

I echo what has been said about your so called 'friend'. If they say things like that they aren't worth knowing. Some people are just so pathetic.

Thanks everyone for your kind words about DS1. DH is a governor and he's going in tomorrow for a meeting and he said he's going to speak to DS1's classteacher.

I'm eating the hugest peice of cheese ever right now. Yum. Cheese is just the best thing ever.

Beepbeep have a good evening

bbl so sorry to hear what's happening to your little boy. Hope he's ok and the teacher can sort it out quickly.

erika sounds horrible. Hope you're ok and glad you heard the heartbeat. Pregnancy can be so bloody stressful!

Don't talk about weight loss! I've gained about half a stone and am worried I'm going to look ridiculous when I get married as I was big before I got preggers.

My spotting seems to have calmed down so hopefully it was just a result of the internal examination.

Hi everyone! Just spent an hour and a half catching up! Congrats on the positive scans! I'm now thinking it would be nice to not find out the sex, but I'm not that patient and I certainly don't think DH is!! Apparently, according to DD, if we have a girl it is going to be called Eleanor (not a favourite of mine I have to admit) and if it's a boy it is going to be called Harry (which I like, but not with our surname).

Erikamaye sorry your 'friend' has upset you and written such an unnecessary email. People really should learn to keep their mouths shut. I hope you are ok. hugs

It was dd's 5th birthday today. She has been so sweet bless her! Very excited and they did loads of really sweet things for her at school. She then had her 2 best friends over for a tea party which was really nice, although three hyper 5 year olds dancing to high school musical and hannah montana was quite a sight!!

I went away to Champneys for the weekend with some friends. It was soooooooooooo nice! I want to go away again now!

erika sorry to hear about your stressful weekend. at least you know the baby is ok now, but things like that can really throw you.

lemontop glad to hear the spotting's stopped. I've had some bright red spotting twice now and was told they couldn't find anything but it was probably from the top of the cervix, which is soft and quite prone to bleeding in pregnancy - do you think this could be it, if it might have been knocked during the examination?
When's the Big Day?? Are you all prepared?

I can second what tamlin said about the wrinkly elephant skin! I lost the weight really quickly - was back in my old jeans a few days after the birth and dropped another dress size in a few months. I think this was from breastfeeding - I was starving the whole time, despite eating loads. The down side is my tummy is horrible! Really baggy and gross. I'd rather lose weight less quickly this time, but I don't know how. Also, the elephant skin is probably here to stay anyway!

BBL I was in Tochigi on JET from 98-99 - was just getting to grips with conversational Japanese when I had to leave. I couldn't do the long distance thing with DH any more and he was homesick after a year in Czech so didn't want to come out and do GEOS or such like. I miss it so much. Had a random craving for sharon fruit the other day, which I haven't had since I got back! Big hugs for your wee boy.

lemontop so sorry that your bleeding is still causing you angst, and that you still have 2 weeks to go 'till your scan I had mine today at 20 weeks and I have a right little wriggler. It was lovely to see all the bits of the heart and brain, and a tummy full of fluid apparently. We even saw he/she swallowing. ursigurke we have to opposite problem - the femur seemed shorter in comparison to the other measurements. Yet another short arse like me then! katster and those of you who are still waiting for 20 week scans hang in there, it'll be fabulous when you finally get the scan, and such a reassurance after your previous scares I bet. Almost as good as the scan was bein told by the sonographer that I was slim - which I haven't felt like since 2005! Good to know that the chocolate hobnob habit hasn't had too much of a detrimental effect yet

Weight loss for me seemed to take an age. I was BF for a year, and I think that the appetite that came with it was a big hurdle. Too many hobnobs....

O.M.G i have too much to catch up on. I will go and scan a few hundred posts! But won't promise to respond to many.

Hope all those who have had scans have had positive news, and fingers crossed for those with scans soon. Mine is in thursday at 19 weeks, but I am still waiting for the consultant appt which was meant to be at the same time . They just do not seem bothered.

Not been sick for almost 2 weeks! Still taking meds, but i was sick even on them before that. I still feel sick from time to time but really think i have turned a corner. I am making up for it big time with food. I can even eat Boost Chocolate now although preferred food is savoury still.

Hope every one is well xx

oh for those with low iron, if you get constipation with them try spatone instead. It is ace, safe in pregnancy and you can take double dose in pregnancy. It is a clear liquid which you can put in orange or grapefruit juice to speed up absorption even more.

Anyone getting braxtons already?

Seem to be having pretty regular tightenings these days

I have had a couple, sort of put it down to growing and stuff...but could be?

pavlov I was already wondering, where you were so even happier to hear that you feel so much better.
hobnob I think maybe once when I was in a hurry, it sometimes feel very tight and hard in the evening but I think that would rather be just full of food.
And I just realised that you are a biscuit, I will definitely try you as soon as possible, maybe your chocolate version... although I probably shouldn't start a new bad habit

usigurke - thanks for wondering! I have been on and off but lost the thread and did not stick around long enough to find it again what with my newfound energy and all (and I have been taking spatone so sure that has helped my energy). Congratulations on finding out you are having a girl! Are you pleased?

Talking of tiredness - have almost fallen asleep twice this week at work. Like proper drooping eyes. It took all my effort today not to say 'sod it' and just have a doze it was so overpowering!

pavlov, thanks, yes I am very pleased but I would have been in any case. Now, it is even kind of a surprise as I was so sure of having a boy (stupid to be so sure though)

hobnob sharon fruit!!! Yum!!!! I've lost much of my Japanese so it makes me laugh to hear DH practicing. He goes to a class once a week. He and I were just friends when I was in Japan and he came to visit me twice - now he's more into things Japanese than I am. I really enjoyed my two years there: lots of memories of print club, pocket bell, karaoke, makudonaldo with the students, raamen (esp my favourite spicy tofu raamen), popping to the local Hot Spa for funny loaves of bread with just eight slices per loaf, and those musical train jingles. I'd love to take the DSs and this new baby back one day when they are old enough (and we are rich enough!).

*Pavlov( so pleased you are feeling a bit better. Onwards and upwards!

I've been working this evening baaaaa so off to bed now zzzz with a good book (The Tree of Forgetting in case anyone wants to know!). It's fab - can't remember the author's name though.

OK so I'm off at 8am tomorrow so probably wont get a chance to post before I leave.

BBL Sorry to hear about your ds. Unfortunately these boys only get worse as they get older so best to teach ds some ways of dealing with them now. My ds freaked me out today when he said a boy in school had got a knife in one of their lessons, said to ds"this is it" then made to stab him but stuck the knife into the chair ds was sat on I would be on the school doorstep but apparently this happened some time ago and ds was telling me because the boy has just been excluded for stabbing someone in the back with a pen. I asked why he didn't tell me before and he said because the teacher saw and didn't do any thing. He doesn't seem bothered but I'm not sure that that isn't even more disturbing.

Pav good to see you.

Erika hope you are feeling better. I have a horrid sensation of heaviness in my bump and like I'm about to get my period but just ignoring it for now.

of all those who have not gained weight. I am officially a whale!!! And I've gone up three dress sizes.

nice holidays abroad.

for the cool scans

Sorry if I've missed any one. See you all when I return from glasto.

Hope I don't get mistaken for a walking tent

ninjacat It's probably be too late, but I hope you have a fab time!

I get that about-to-have-my-period sensation too. Hopefully it's just my body hard at work down there.

DD has been upset this morning as DH had his bags ready for glasto and she thought she was going too. He picked up his bag and asked her if she was ready (to go to nursery) and she rushed off and got her little yellow suitcase, thinking she was going on holiday.

Luckily DD and I are off to the coast this afternoon, so a few hours on the beach might appease her. And hopefully do my hayfever some good - is anyone else really suffering at the moment? Yesterday was an absolutely gorgeous day here and we had to keep inside with the windows closed and the blinds down. Boo. What a misery. I'm so glad the beach is nearby at least.

erika I hope you got some sleep and that everything goes ok with the social services today.

pavlov nice to see you back and glad to hear you're feeling better.

Good morning all. I can?t keep up. I decided today that instead of working (am going to be all say in the office) I shall be catching up with you lot! I will be back later.

that should say DAY all day in the office!

By the way, if anyone has hayfever, do you know if I can take piriton?
I asked a pharmacist about a month ago and she said I couldn't take anything, but I noticed on DD's piriton yesterday it says 'consult your doctor before using in pregnancy'. I rang the doctor this morning and he's said he can't prescribe it, but he's sure it's fine to take and to just check with a pharmacist.