Due November 2009: Second trimester thread!

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New thread for you as it was geting a bit big...

Yep, I went to the pharmacy today, told them what the GP had said and the pharmacist said she'd look in her magic book. According to that, piriton is 'considered safe' - only the one made from chlorphenamine, NOT piriteze, which is a different drug. Like scarlotti says, I don't think they can ever say anything is definitely fine in pregnancy as ethically you could not test on pregnant women, that's why they leave it to the GP's discretion. Interesting that my GP wouldn't prescribe it though, but told me it's ok to buy? The pharmacist also said that piriton can be used for babies as young as 1 month old, which is another sign of its safety.

I have taken 2 today now anyway, so I hope it's alright.

DD and I spent the afternoon on the beach, which was fab. We just got back and the flat is like an oven, but can't open the windows due to nasty pollen. I have to work this evening and pack our bags to go away tomorrow, so I'm hoping if I ignore her for a bit she might start feeling sleepy!

Speaking of ignoring kids, did anyone see Wife Swap the other night? I was so shocked at the mum who spent up to 12 hrs a day on the internet while being a SAHM to her 18 month old. I am a lazy girl at heart, so never thought I'd find myself siding with the super-organised wife, but the other one was surely neglectful? I was actually crying watching it.

bbl congrats on the scan!

Tamlin - Try mothercare's "fuller bust" range. I'm a 32 G (If they get any bigger, I'm chopping the buggers off!) and they go bigger than that, I think

Hope thats some help!!

Koumak that sounds like the best holidays ever. I'm sure you will get soooo much good food.
I find it strange too that you never see a gynaecologist here in England. I used to see mine twice a year. And I think, all women I know, go there at least once a year. I found it quite funny when the GP asked me for the last smear test results and if I could get them sended here. As I could not "prove" the normal result, I have to do the next one in I don't know how many years and with a written result I would only have to do it again in even more years. In both cases long enough to die several times from cancer.
I got used to the fact that I do not see a gynaecologist during my pregnancy but I still dislike the fact that there is not ONE person, knowing my case. I always meet different ones. I guess in my case it is worse as I only registered with a GP when pregnant and he is now on extended leave so I will see an other one on my GP appointment.
When I am back in Vienna, I'll definitely see my gynaecologist, not because I'm worried or have any questions, just because I think I should (and maybe I'll get an extra scan )
For those with hayfever, I hope it will be over soon. Luckily I'm only suffering a little bit so I can go through it without any medication.

pavlov so good to hear you are feeling more like yourself and less like death on a sofa

BBL congrats on the scan. Your post about Japan made me very un-genki - can't remember the word for wistful! Ramen.............mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm but the best had to be shabu shabu. And that sweet yoghurt drink you got in cartons, and the amusement of Pocari Sweat, and the taxis with automatic doors and gloved drivers with glow sticks, and the powder snow and snowboarding..... mmmmmmmm And people who thought I was Meg Ryan and DH when he visited was Prince William

koumak you must be really looking forward to going home. Where abouts in Czech are you from? DH was in Prostejov near Brno for a year being an English conversation teacher. He hated teaching but loved the hospitality. Although, by his own admission, if he'd stayed any longer he'd be dead from alcohol poisoning . I visited for a week and loved it there.

I'm off to NI again for an extended stint to see my folks. DD and I fly over next week, DH follows a week later with the car and we then all go to Donegal on the west coast to play on the beaches and rock pools for a while. We do it every year, and if the weather is kind it is heaven on earth. Also lovely to spend time back at home and being cooked for

One more day of work left! Had 3 functions to attend this week, so my white Stuff stretchy dress has been a worthwhile investment.

The braxtons are definitely here! But not so often today. Wee bean must have known it was on show yesterday and was setting them off!

I've been to the beach too, somehow burnt my forehead, but only the top bit in a strip and I have a nice X in red on back too, so that'll be fun.

I just wanted to take this stupid tight shirt off and realised, it wasn't the shirt it was my skin. I guess not much I can do about that

hobnob my mum is from NI so we go over there quite a bit. Where are you from? She was brought up in Belfast, then Newry, but all our family now live in Bangor so we go there. It is a lovely part of the world. My mum always regrets she brought DB and me up English rather than at home! In fact, you've just reminded me I have to go and buy the Tayto cheese and onion I found in our local shop to being to her tomorrow. (they blatantly taste like any other cheese and onion crisps, but try telling her, or any other NI person I've met, that!)

I'm off to my parents' for 10 days, so looking forward to plenty of lie-ins, I hope! I do kind of revert to being a child when I go home. It's nice for a few days and then I find myself desperate to make desicions and get a bit stir crazy. 10 days is by far the longest time I've spent at home for a good few years. I hope it's fun.

Oh, ursi you should definitely try chocolate hobnobs - they are the best biscuit. Very very moreish. And they come in a resealable tub so you can pretend you've only had one when you've actually eaten half a packet.

Hobnob I know the word but I can't remember it either! Don't you just love how the Japanease have words like that that we don't ahve in English? Genki is a good one. Lol at your being Meg Ryan and your DH Prince William. When my DH came to visit me (he is 6 foot 5 inches) we were in a lift with two tiny old ladies and one said to the other 'cor blimey, look at the size of him!' and DH just smiled politely not knowing what they'd said. I cracked up. Shabu shabu is yum!!!! I also loved yakitori, okonomiyaki.

I watched Wife Swap too Laugs and was really shocked at that woman - feeding her little girl crips for breakfast too.

I've been working too hard - feeling sooo tired. I need a holiday. I'm waiting for BB to come on. I'm sad, I know.

My spelling is embarrassing - what are crips? Sorry guys and you wouldn't know I worked in publishing [blus]

I can't even do the icon correctly!!!! Time for bed perhaps rather than BB.

tayto cheese and onion are unique and def dont taste like any other...guess where i was born...

Becky - I can't spell for toffee. AND I swear its gotten worse with being pregnant!!

Well the meeting went better than I thought it would. It was more a "filling out a bundle of sheets" kind of meeting. Got assessments over the next six weeks, where the social worker who I've met before will see us seperately and together. They asked our opinions on their involvement and my darling darling darling parnter informed them just what he thought! Don't think I've ever wanted to slap him and kiss him so much both at the same time haha! However, they did put my mind at ease slightly - the way they were talking made it clear they didn't really consider us much of a risk, which was such a comfort. The woman I haven't met before - my social workers boss - said it was obvious we were putting the baby first, and were both coherent and elequent. Even if I can't spell. So I guess thats a good sign!

My mums friend happens to be the chief midwife in the area, and although she's not my midwife (She did say she would if I wanted her to be, but didn't want to put me in an awkward position. Bless her!) as I'm under the teen specialist, I know I can always call her if I'm concerned about anything. Its really helpful, and it just so happened she called this afternoon while my DP was round. We were talking generally and I said DP was here, so she offered to come over and bring her machine so he could hear the heartbeat! He hasn't heard it before So she came over, and he got all blubbery about it - my dad just got freaked out! - I told him to grow a set, but thought it was so sweet. He recorded it on his phone, and kept playing it back all the time he was here so he could listen to it again and again So happy at the moment!

EricaMaye - I am sorry I never said Hi. I am like a bridezilla eh? What should we call that? Pregzilla? .

I read through your initial post and it made me feel very sad, that you are in a position where things are so tough for you to enjoy your pregnancy and look forward to being a mother. But I did just want to respond to one part of it if i may

you said 'I want to be a good mother. I want to supply everything this child wants and needs to make it happy. I want to help it grow into a responsible, happy, bright, social young adult. I feel so bad in myself for the fact I can't give it a nursery - I feel like I've failed before I've even jumped the first hurdle!'

and to that I say - a child does not need a nursery to be a happy child. A child needs love, and a parent that wants it first and foremost. With that, which you have demonstrated clearly you do, you can find ways around it. People have babies in so many difficult circumstances and are fantastic parents and there is no reason why that will not be you. You are doing the right things to make sure your baby has a great life, you are working with your social worker and therapist to deal with your own problems, you have a boyfriend who is happy about becoming a father, you know what you need to be doing and you are working on that. That is all any of us can do. The nursery is nothing in the grand scheme of things. And many many people do not have their children in a seperate bedroom for a long long time.

Good luck, welcome to this thread and I hope you are finding it supportive so far. I am sure you are, its a very supportive thread).

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I bought my DDs birthday present yesterday...she is going to be 3 next week. I got her this. I am sooooooo excited to see her face

She wants, for her little party - party hats, party plates, balloons, cake and presents. I am sure we can arrange that. We are having a really low key one this year and I sort of feel bad about that as its her last one just us. But we do not know many children her age and most of them live too far to come on the day. So we are taking her and a boy of 4 to Pennywell Farm in Devon for the day, then coming back and hopefully having another child over for a small tea with the above! We are also thinking, this is the last year we can do it low key as she will socialised far more this year and she will want a bigger party!!!That's ok isn't it?

Pavlov - that's definately ok, we had big party for DD's first, then took her and a friend to pizza express for her 2nd. She's 3 5 days ater this baby is due, so not sure what will happen this year. I like the bike, let us know how se gets on with it, I might pinch your idea!!

It's DS's 1st birthday on Monday, haven't really thought much about it, poor little man! We're having a family bbq next weekend (DH's family anyway, mine live 200 miles away, but we're going up to see them the following week). DS has so many toys that have all belonged to DD, not sure what to get him, he's not really that bothered by toys but it would be nice for him to have something of his own!

DD & DS's sports day at nursery today - should be interesting! DS may win the 'flapping the arms race' and DD has refused to wear purple - apparently that's the colour of her team, oh well!

Very of all you who get to go home and relax, my mum is a nightmare, she's actually worse than the children! she shows very little interest in them - can play for about 10 mins and then gets bored, it really fustrates me as it take us 4.5 hours to get there and sometime i just think what's the point?! i don't expect her to spend money on them (she doesn't!) or to go OTT but it would be nice to get a little help & i just wish she would show some interest in them other than when her friends are around and she can use them to show off!

beepbeep we had a big party for DDs first, with far too many adults but we figured it was more about us than her then! And same last year, a few children, lots of adults and we realised it was toooooo much with the adults. now she is old enough for it to be just about her, and that is what we thought, her birthday, even if it is just a small birthday. Its all about her.

I know what you mean also about family. I have a small family, we are not that close, no parents to cook for me anymore! DH has a good family but they are in USA. We got to see them at christmas though (most of them, not all of them) but his mother sends us Baclava and Pastaflora (sp) each christmas even if we are not with her! It would be nice to have them a bit closer so we can see them more often, and for less time each time if that makes sense

Its our scan today YEY! at 2pm so I will post how we get on. We have not decided if we will find out the sex of the baby yet. I don't want to, DH does and I am concerned that curiosity will get the better of us when we are there and if we are asked if we want to know.

DH still has not sorted out a babysitter for DD this afternoon, he really does not seem that excited . He said 'why is it she can't come again?' I said more than it being awkward and she might be a pain, I want this to be about me, DH and baby, just for half hour and he said DD is family and its about family. I told him she won't have a bloody clue what it all means, and what if there is a problem? or if she plays up he will have to leave and won't be able to be involved, and he sighed 'fine you get your own way as usual' which is his way of saying he wants her there so he does not have to bother sorting out childcare. I could do it, but I do everything bloody well else, including work so its not much to ask .

Anyway, i am excited about the scan

Good luck with the scan Pavlov!

pavlov your DH sounds JUST like mine! (not surprising, they have the same birthday). However, at our last scan he was really trying to get DD involved and she wasn't interested at all and was a bit of a pain to be honest. I just wanted to concentrate for 10 minutes, but when there's a 2 yr old around the only thing you can concentrate on is them. Maybe this time round he'll see what I meant (won't admit to it though!).Having said that, we might have to bring her to the next one anyway and just both be in a huff about it.

Hope the scan goes well! And let us know how DD gets on on the bike, it looks very cool. Has she ridden a trike before or this her first go?

Goodluck with scan Pavlov - bloomin DHs! mine is now working next tues which he was meant to have off, no childcare sorted. it needs sorting today and i'm at work but apparently it's still up to me to arrange! not sure how that works?!

Pavlov I am not registered to CAT. I really appreciate your help. I am online now till 12 and then again tomorrow from 8.30am onwards.

We have very similar bike for ds look here

He is 4 now so grown out of it but try telling him that he won?t give it up! He learnt to balance really quickly and goes incredibly fast! We are looking into buying proper bike as he is more than ready. No stabilizers needed here!

Big birthday parties can be so stressful! And they end up costing as much as small wedding! Smaller ones on the other hand are relaxed and she and you can enjoy them more. Ds is starting reception in Sept and apparently you are expected to invite all the children to the first birthday party so the children ?can get to know each other?!

Our scan today too. But not till evening. So very excited and nervous at the same time. We are taking ds with us, he is 4 so understands about the baby. I showed him pictures from pregnancy book and he is v. interested in the scan. He gets shy with strangers so should be able to keep still when we are in there! But I am also taking Thomas magazine and loads of snacks to keep him busy!

Ds and I have ?new reception children? visit of the school to get through this afternoon before we get to the hospital. I really hope he likes his ?big? school!

Hobnob I have been wanting to go to NI or anywhere in Ireland actually for as long as I can remember! Even looked up the ferries last year but that was it. It looks so lovely!
I am N northern Moravian! I will be flying to Brno but from Ostrava on the way back. And I know what you mean about the alcohol poisoning! Although it?s probably safe to return now as so expensive he wouldn?t be able to justify it this time round!

We just had massive flooding over there. It looks so bad. My parents? house seems to be ok so far (yet) but we have a little stream running through the garden so any more rain will be killer!

Beepbeep your mum sounds pretty much like my MIL, both PIL actually. We hardly see them now and its usually only dh and ds who go for ?longer? weekend the most. For me it?s just not worth the stress anymore. They are always busy doing their stuff (what normal person would?ve finished in an hour they spent 3 hours doing) so ds it?s just bored. They never buy anything for ds even though it?s their only grandchild so far. They haven?t seen him for almost a year and he was given a book and I think that?s only because my ds and dh went to bookshop when visiting them and dh didn?t have the currency with him so FIL ended up paying!

You little ones don't need to have big parties to have a good birthday (as you say Koumac they can end up costing a lot of money and stress) so don't feel bad Pavlov your plans for your DD sound lovely to me. On DS1's third birthday DH, DS1 and DS2 (then 6 months old) and I went to the Natural History museum in Oxford and then had tea and cakes at home - it was lovely and just the four of us. DS2 had a family party with just cousins, grandparents, etc for his third birthday and he had a great time too. DS1 has had the 'invite all the children and hire a village hall' do for his fourth and DS2 for his second so they've had a variety. I think variety is nice for them - makes their birthdays more memorable.

Good luck on your scan Pavlov! hope it is a very enjoyable moment for you.

Good morning. The thread is getting big so I started a new one here

Haven't done it before so forgive me if it doesn't work

The scan was great, DD came along and she was great, and when she stopped being great, DH stuffed her with a donut! We also managed to get 4 scan pictures for free by offering the sonographer a donut with her coffee at break!

All is well, and we did find out what we are having - due the well endowed tackle in between the legs, we are most certainly having a BOY!!!! I won, I said ALL along it was a boy. and DD said 'a boy? not a girl? a boy? oh' and now she is telling everyone she is having a brother so we can't keep it a secret even if we wanted to.