Due November 2009: Second trimester thread!

[turtle23]

New thread for you as it was geting a bit big...

fruitpastels nice to see you back. Have you been on holiday? I've been wondering about everyone on the thread we haven't heard from much recently. turtle? Lissyglitter?, flumpity?, munchies and loads of others. Hope they're all doing well and are far too busy having proper lives to be on here all the time

ursigurke yeah!

Weston poor you

Laugs just hold your head up high at your reunion - you're having a baby and that's a wonderful thing!

I had a reunion last autumn - 20 years since we did our GCSEs together - it was both great fun and really, really weird. I wasn't a popular kid at school (a bit of an odd-ball geek really) and all the same feelings of 'oooh I'm not as pretty as them' come back! It was weird but a lot of fun too (and fascinating to see how people really don't change over time).

I've had a bad day DS1 was kicked by a boy in his class and the same boy, egged on by two other boys, pulled his trousers down. A teacher saw this happen, thankfully. This boy's mum is a good friend of mine, too, which made it a bit awkward. DS1's class teacher told the boy's mum all about it after school so she could have words with her son but nothing was said to me which I found a little odd. So my friend told me about it and obviously felt really bad about it. DS1 was really glum all the way home and just looked so sad and hurt. He's so trusting and so friendly (a bit naive perhaps - he's had problems adjusting socially since he started preschool at age 3) and he wouldn't hurt a fly so when someone is mean to him he can't understand it. I don't quite know what to think really. I hope it is just a one off. These two boys (the eggers oners) have pushed DS1 over before and knocked his snack out of his hands - why are children sometimes so cruel? They are only five years old as well

Aww BBL your poor DS. And poor you - it must be so hard knowing something's happened when you can't be there. Hopefully it's just a one off. Is he ok this evening?

He's more chirpy now (DH is reading them a story right now). Like you say Laugs it is so hard feeling so powerless. I can't be there tomorrow or the next day or whenever and the thought of him being scared or worried about going to school is killing me. He loves school. The worry never stops! It starts when you get the positive test result! (Having said that so does the joy and just wonderful warm feelings you get thinking about your bump / baby / little boy or girl.)

BBL how is your DS (and you) today? Hope he's ok now and looking forward to school. Children can be really cruel at times. My Ds was brought to tears by a boy at sunday school last week - My DS is 3.5 and the boy had told him he was doing his picture wrong as he was scribbling and not colouring

I hope your friend, who's the boy's Mum, has had a good word with him and apologises today.

Anyone else impatient now to meet their baby?! I'm wondering if it's because I know he's a boy and now I just want him here!

We're off on holiday on Sunday - I can't wait

BBL Hope your DS went off to school ok today.

We went to Italy for the week. It was lovely and relaxing. Back to normal life and feeling post holiday blues today. I'm looking forward to Friday and having my scan, which is cheering me up. Getting some strong kicks and noticed bubba has a routine, esp at 10pm when I want to go to bed!

Scarlotti Where you off to on your hols? I have another week off in August but I think we'll be staying at home for that one.

I think the sun has done my teenage spots a treat! I don't feel like spotty dotty anymore, and actually feel the blooming stage has begun.

Hello All. Congratulations on the scans, little boys and girls, how lovely to know. Roll on July 14th!

Had a doc's appointment yesterday, as blood tests came back with low haemoglobin result. Got put on iron supplements. Funny, I have been feeling quite tired but as soon as he confirmed the low iron I started to feel really exhausted! The power of suggestion, eh? I admit I haven't been eating my greens, and can't even think of eating a steak! Maybe I'll chew on some rusty nails...

Becky I hope your boy has a better day today, what meanies those other kids.

I managed to win a huge bundle of mat. clothes on e-bay! They're making their way to me now, can't wait.

Thanks for noticing I wasn't here, Laugs...I have just had a lot on my mind recently and haven't felt like posting. STill here, still waiting for the scan which is weeks away!

Not to annoy anybody...but I haven't gained any weight. Am getting worried. When I said to MW she just scowled at me and said "Well..eat more, then. You gained a huge amount of weight last time, I thought you'd be glad not to this time."

Turtle I haven't gained much weight either. Are you naturally slim? The sickness got me so I had to gain back what I lost and have gained a little on top so far. I think I'm about 3 weeks ahead of you, and only started to gain some pounds in the last 2 weeks. The last trimester is when you need to increase your calories by 200. That's not very much really, an extra sandwich a day. I wouldn't worry yourself too much. I'm sure you'll get some weight on you very soon

Fruitpastels, I'm so jealous at the thought of Italy. I would kill for a holiday at the moment - WITH childcare, I should add...

Turtle, I lost weight in the first and second trimesters with DS (and the hyperemesis), and then blew up hugely in the third when I could actually keep food down again. This time around, I've gained 11 lbs already, but I'm hoping that the weight gain will be more gradual.

Turtle what an insensative midwife!

DS went to school happy today and the offending boy has written him a letter to say sorry which I thought was very sweet. I just hope he has a good day today

BBL glad your ds is happy today and that he got a letter of apology - that was sweet.

Turtle don't worry about the weight thing. I've had 3 succesful pg's now and the weight gain has been completely different with all of them. DD was the best with practically none for 5 months then minimal for the rest, put my jeans back on to leave hospital.
This one is the worst - I've put on 1st 5lbs already and it's not like I've been eating lots. My body obviously gets more efficient at building fat stores with each subsequent pg

Fruitpastels we're off to Majorca for 10 days am so looking forward to it, work is quite busy and I work full time so a break will be just the ticket. There are kids clubs for Ds (if he'll go ) and DD will entertain him too for a bit so am hoping to get a bit of lounge and read time. We've also gone half board so no cooking and cleaning either.
Thought we'd make the most of the opportunity as with 3dc's the rest of my life will be spent in static caravans if I'm lucky!!

My DD went off today to the Lake District on her silver Duke of Edinburgh trek. Felt dreadful leaving her this morning as they are on their own pretty much for 3 days/2 nights, and have to cook their own meals. It's been a long time since I've had a situation where DD has felt like my little girl again as she's almost 15 now. Am hoping she comes back in one piece!

Scarlotti I did a Duke of Edinburgh many, many years ago! She'll be fine I'm sure. I can imagine how you feel though; it must feel strange. I remember eating bangers, mash and peas cooked on a tiny burner thing for our tea and waking up in the night and bumping into a cow on my way to the toilet.

BBL lol at the cow!! she'd get a right fright if that happens!
I think it was more that the depth of my worry was a shock, if that makes any sense. I'm used to feeling worried for Ds going into situations as he's only 3.5 but DD is so self sufficient and capable it's strange to get those feelings about her again.
Am sure she'll be ok ... now if I can just get the pictures of her wandering aimlessly lost around vast lakes and countryside out of my mind I'll be fine!!

BeckyBL how mean!???? I can't understand how kids can be so cruel..scary isn't it..DD is only 18months and when she is pushed over by the older kids in the park I feel like crying..its so hard to deal with their disappointments and hurt. Are you ok? Is he better?? Good you got a letter.

Turtle I've only just gained a little weight after the MS so don't worry..

Laugs Careers don't define us..we define us. so enjoy the reunion and knock em out with your charm. Sorry about the PSP and dinner plates!

oh and yes my old life was quite glam..i remember those days with fondness!!! but am happier now than ever.

scarlotti its natural to be worried..my mum didn't let me do the outdoor pursuit on Dof E..and I regret that...she'll be fine don't worry too much.

Welcome back Fruitpastels Skorpion had my results today too and have v low iron too..hence the tiredness. take the pills and I will too..watch out for the black poo!!! its so odd...

Hi everyone,
congratulations to all those with good scans and all the exciting boy/girl news.
I had my 20-week scan today but I didn't find out the sex as I have decided to wait for the surprise. The baby was great though and apparantly has extra-long legs! Very happy that there were no problems picked up, I too have been hearing the odd horror story lately. It was nice to see the little one one the screen, although I still find it difficult to connect the blurry screen picture with the concept this this is actually my own child!
Weston, sorry to hear you have been sick today, how miserable. Hope you feel better soon.

bbl hope your little boy has a much better day at school today. Your post made me feel ever so sad, kids can be so cruel to each other. I dread to think what I'm going to be like when ds starts school and if something like that happens.

Had my scan this morning and all is well. So relieved and lovely to see little beany waving his/her arms and legs! eeyore like you we are waiting for the surprise, although it was tempting to find out!

sleepless yeah, black poo... It's all glamour and roses, isn't it? Funny, because I haven't got any other pg symptoms yet, belly a bit out, but sprout still not bouncing. It's strange to discover that this is having an internal effect after all.
I've been reading threads about this iron lark, drink orange juice, munch on spinach and dried apricots. And some cow.

Talking of books, has anybody read Lisey's Story by Stephen King? I love his non-horror stories.

I also cannot recommend David Mitchell enough. Everybody read Cloud Atlas!

Ooh I started Cloud Atlas, but never got very far with it. Maybe I will try again. Still drifting between books at the moment - I'm not happy until I get hooked in!

Sleepless don't worry about me, I just like a good moan! Actually, I've found out that my only really good friend who is going is a girl who REALLY talks up her career (beyond recognition), to the point of it being embarrassing for everyone who knows her, so I am sure a bit of self-deprecation won't go amiss.

turtle glad to see you and hope you're not too worried about the weight gain thing. I haen't been weighed this time, but I seem to remember last time that it was more like my weight became displaced for the first few months - bigger round the tummy, but I lost weight in other places. Maybe this is it?

eeyore and helips congratulations on your scans!

fruitpastels we are going to Nice, followed by Tuscany at the end of July. I can't wait! Where were you? Did you find the heat hard?

Laugs I loved Italy. We were in Umbria, on the border of Tuscany. The heat did get to me a bit. We would venture out in the morning and then keep out of the sun when it was at it's hottest. The most enjoyable part of the day for me was from 3.30-7pm when the sun was still hot but not uncomfortable. We did have some scorching days. The ice-cream was my holiday highlight . I'm sure you'll have a brilliant time!!

Ladies, I'm so jealous of your Italian escapades! Mind you, we're going to the French Alps next week, so can't complain. DH is a complete cycling freak and he's doing this brilliant organised race down there, something like 170km, quite a few cols. I'm going to be the support, as my cycling days are put on hold for now.

We actually cycled around Europe for seven months 4 years ago and spent 6 weeks in Italy, loved it.

laugs say hello to those olive groves for me.

BBL, it is really shocking that so little ones can already be so cruel. But I'm sure in the end, it will make your little son very strong and even if he is (luckily) a very kind person himself he will learn how to deal with this kind of people.
scarlotti, I'm sure it must be difficult for a mother to let her child leave into independence even if she knows that the child is capable. Maybe it is just harder than you had thought because of the pregnancy hormones.
Turtle, don't worry about your weight. I only started to put on a couple of weeks ago. I first had lost 3kg.

Ooooh David Mitchell is one of my favourite authors! He is ace on a stick! Also Haruki Murakami if anyone likes things to be a bit off the wall.

DS had another incident today The boy, who I think is at heart a good boy just easily influenced (the one who wrote the letter), was apparently involved with these two horrible little trouble makers (both called Jack as it happens) and DS1 was pinched, kicked and hit at playtime. DS1 told the teacher on play duty and she just said, get this, 'keep away from them'. Yeah right! How helpful is that. So DS1 did the right thing and told his class teacher later back in class who has had words with the parents of the two Jacks and my friend (who feels absoltely terrible about it). I can't believe it though. I just want to keep DS1 at home now I can't bear to see him being upset and hurt. He's such a gentle little soul but sadly its those sort of people who get picked on. I remember from when I was at school. Grrrrrr. Sorry for the waffle and the rant everyone.

Black poo???

I've got my 20-week scan tomorrow. Will not find out the sex because they won't tell! Sigh! Not that I would anyway as I like surprises.

BBL, that's awful! I also think you can probably complain about the teacher on play duty - most schools have very strict anti-bullying policies in place. If your DS is getting physically attacked, that seems pretty clear-cut to me (and yes, I know that small boys are prone to this sort of thing, but if there are no repercussions NOW, what sort of big boys will they make?)

I do hate this sort of thing. My DS is just starting to be bothered by older children jeering at him and shoving him - he stands in this attitude of sorrow with his hands over his face, and I just want to skelp the little monsters. (There's no rage as irrational as mummy rage.)

Oh becky your poor DS Sorry, I don't have any wise words of advice. Bullying is such a horrible thing and your DS sounds lovely. I'm so glad he did tell the teacher and didn't keep it quiet. Does he have other friends he can hang around with while this other boy is being easily led? Such a hard situation.