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A Giraffe and a Gruffalo went to the Cosmos to see the Starshine, but which WagonBaby will be first?

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Astarte · 16/03/2009 17:17

It's like an 'in joke'

Births:
Kay - 12th December - 6:49pm - Dylan George - 10lbs 5ozs
Teuch- - - boy
Pop - 23rd December - twin boys, Hugo & Henry
Nat - 27th December - 8:36pm - Mikey Bradley - 6lb 10.5oz
Gin - 16th Jan- Girl - 7.25am- details tbc
Tink- 19th Jan - Girl - 1.51pm - Bracken Hope Willow - 8lbs 7oz
Astarte - 16th Feb - Girl - 8lb 12oz
Glask - 20th Feb - Girl - 7.47pm - Ruby Marie 4lb (8wks prem)
LardyBump - 21st Feb- Boy - 8lb 12oz
HappyNappies- 27th Feb- Boy - 12.01am 9lb13

Scan list:
Kooky - fetal heart echo + detailed scan @ 16 weeks - 18th March
LBOT - 22 week scan - 23 March
idreamofbeanie - 12 week scan - 23 March
STT - 12 week scan - 31st March
LaTour - 12 week scan - 31st March!

Weeks list:
Playing - ?????
GYo - 39 weeks, 1wk left. Surprise (17 Mar)
Star - 38 weeks, 2 weeks left. Surprise (22 Mar)
Cosmo - 38 weeks, 2 weeks left. Girl.(31st Mar)
Gruff - 35 weeks, 5 weeks left. Girl. (16th Apr)
Ses -32 weeks, 8 left. Surprise (10 May)
MINM- 30 weeks, 10 to go Surprise(19th May)
Diege - 26 weeks, 14 left to go. Boy!!!!(21st June)
LBOT - 20 weeks, 20 left to go (24th July)
KookyKid - 15 weeks, 25 weeks to go (2nd Sept) BOY!
Idreamofbeanie - 11 weeks (due 1st Oct)
LaTourEiffel - 10 weeks (due 8th Oct)
Sparklytwinkletoes - 10 weeks 12th Oct
BB - 5-6 weeks (due 31st oct)

Girls = 2
Boys= 4
Surprise = 4
Unknowns (yet) = 4

MW apps list:
LBOT - 21+6 weeks - Thu 19 March
Gruff - 36 weeks - Friday 20th March
GYo @ 40+4 weeks- Fri 20th March- S&S
Ses - @33wks - Tues 24th March
Cosmo - @ 40 wks - around 28th March
MINM- - 33 weeks- 31st March
DIEGE = 28 wk midwife/consultant/anti-d - 2nd April.
Mat leave countdown:
Playing - on Mat leave!!!!
GYo - on Mat leave!!!!!
Star - on Mat Leave!!!!
Cosmo - on Mat Leave!!!!
Gruff - on Mat Leave!!!!
Ses - last day 3rd April (35 weeks) 21 days, but only 15 days actually at work
STT - Somewhere around 120 working days
Diege - last day 29th April.

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kayzr · 19/03/2009 07:06

Morning,

Sorry I disappeared yesterday. I got an awful migraine and went to bed. DH was wonderful and looked after the boys and let me sleep. I slept for 4 hours and wasn't expecting to sleep last night but I did.

Gruff, Yay about 3/5s and changing consultant!!

Ses, Congrats to your friend and I hope your nephew keeps improving. Boo about NCT!

I think that is all I can remember. I have a really busy day today. I've got to get the house to MIL's standards for the party tomorrow or no doubt she'll moan(maybe not actually as my mum wil be there) and I need to go shopping for party food.

Hope you are all ok!

glaskham · 19/03/2009 08:27

Morning... Ruby decided to latch on yesterday evening at 5ish and again at 9ish and had 2 good feeds, then she hasn't had a feed since... i'm currently defrosting some EBM to cup feed her. I'm wondering if its her stuffy nose contributing to her not wanting to feed, it has only developed since yesterday...

The SCBU nurses didn't return my call yesterday, but they should be in the office between 9-9.30 this morning so i'll be phoning then to speak to someone.

I got a bath with her last night and she tried latchign in the bath but we were a bit slippery for her to get a good enough latch- doesn't help that i have enormous norks compared to her tiddly mouth!! poor girl!!

Kay- glad you got some rest yesterday, nothing worse than a banging head and kids to look after!!

Astarte · 19/03/2009 08:37

hope they have some advice for you Glask

No wagon babies this morning?

Well I had a gigantic list of stuff to do today, but I've sacked the lot and we're off to the allotment to dig and plant instead...Good times!

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lardybump · 19/03/2009 08:47

Morning everyone..... So sorry I have not been on for over a week.. Things have not been good in the LB household...

DD got a very bad case of D&V and was very poorly. DS got readmitted to hospital because he couldn't keep anything down. I stayed with him and it was awful the tests they did, my poor baby!!! Anyway they have ruled out lots of things but can not actually say what it is so they are treating him for reflux and if it doesn't improve then we have got to go back in. He is not so dehydrated now as he has had drip for 4 days.....

I have today woken up with d&v as well so now worried I will pass that on to him....

worry worry worry that is all parenthood is made off......

glaskham · 19/03/2009 09:00

Oh LB- doesn't sound so good, hope DS is on the mend and that they are treating him for the right thing.

Ast- I hope they have some good advise for me too... she's just not interested in even attempting to latch, but as she fed yesterday I know its not her latch thats messed up!! Still having plenty of wet and dirty nappies though...

GYoIsReallyHavingABaby · 19/03/2009 09:04

Morning Everyone one

No baby here as yet and today is my guess on the syndicate! suppose Ive still got a few hours... taking all approaches to natural induction (if you get me- just as well Diege isnt around to make a smutty comment )
but baby will budge when it wants to but DH is getting more fed up with me now... he keeps hoping he can miss the meetings he doesnt want to attend!

Astarte, day at the allotments sounds great. Do you keep you smallest in the sling whilst you dig? We are hoping to grow veg in our garden- reminds me we need to sow the seeds ASAP. Some seem ok for April sowing.

Glask- hope you've managed to get Ruby to feed this morning. Sorry I cant add anything as I've no idea about what is normal feeding wise... hope she is ok.

Kayz- boo for the migraine but lovely for DH to let you sleep it off.

LB- what a week, D&V sounds terrible for you and DD and poor DS... least he is being treated and hopefully you can get to the bottom of what is wrong. Keep in touch when you can.

I've got coffee with my NCT people today- seriously is the the highlight of my week the last two bumps will be there and the other one is being C-sectioned tomorrow so Im definately going to be last... Makes me feel like quite a celebrity!

Morning anyone lurking

tinkhas2scrummygirls · 19/03/2009 09:09

morning

dh did bracken last night as i managed my 1st bums and tums class doing dance fit tonite. he is away skiing next week.

poor u lb
hope u get advice glask
kay poor u with migraine hope u r better now

tinkhas2scrummygirls · 19/03/2009 09:12

do anyones children have playhouse? what do you put in them
thinking of getting one for dd1 for garden next month was going 2 put her red table and chairs in and was thinking of buying elc small kitchen.
also going to buy elc sand and water table

NatalieJane · 19/03/2009 09:22

Morning

LB, so sorry you've been through/going through all of that Fingers crossed by the weekend you'll be better and things will seem a little easier.

Glask, stuffy noses deffo can be problematic. Make sure you get hold of the nurse though, she's gone nearly 12 hours without any food/liquid, don't want to worry you at all, but that isn't good. Hope you get some decent advice soon.

Ast, gardening sounds lovely And no, no Plan B, if we go down, we've lost everything. DH and I spoke about it last night, at first opportunity, we're going to go and see a solicitor and/or our FA, to see where we stand legally, and if there is any way around it, or at least how to up our chances of getting through it alive and kicking. We're going to get the house valued, but TBH I think it's a no winner, not only do we think we're very close to either being in negative equity or already there, we'd then need to find a buyer that was interested, then for that buyer to be able to get a mortgage, and for them to sell their house etc. and on top of all of that, as hard as mortgages are to get hold of at the moment, we have a non-standard build (concrete) and these houses were built just after the war as emergency housing, with a life expectancy of 50 years, that got extended for another 25 years, but we are fast approaching the point at which the life expentancy is going to be less than 25 years which obviously no mortgage company would give out on a property that could be crumbling before the mortgage is paid off, so any buyer would need to be able to afford a mortgage over a shorter period. And the concrete build just adds to the problem, we had a bit of difficulty getting a mortgage on it ourselves when times were good and there was nothing else getting in the way of it, just the fact that it's not made of bricks and mortar. I think the chances of all of that falling into place in todays climate are pretty much zero, but we have to at least try, if only so we know we did everything possible.

TBH, as much as I'd really really really rather not have it reposessed for 100's of reasons, there will be a small part of me to be almost glad to have it taken off our hands, we outgrew the house when DS2 was born, now we are literally bursting at the seams, but had been trapped here because of everything above, but it's everything else that goes with it, the car, I have no idea what we will do for a car, credit file would obviously be fucked so no chance of finance, we need a seven seater because of all the car seats, and we need the room they offer for all the crap, but we'll have no money to buy it with. And then we get on to, well where would we live? DS1's school, his friends, all of that stability for him, and the young'uns, would be gone... gorden bennit, it's so easy to rant away on here, all the stuff I almost dare not say to DH because I know how bad he is feeling, he is crapping it for all the same reasons for me, but on top of that he feels responsible for it all, and no matter what I say, he won't have it, "It's me that isn't bringing in the money" he says God, I'm ranting again, so sorry everyone

I'm going to go and stick my head in the oven.... just to clean it you understand () I will catch up properly later, wasted all my time harping on about me and my probs - sorry.

xxx

glaskham · 19/03/2009 09:25

My 2 have a playhouse that we got them for xmas, its not up yet, but they have a little wooden patio set which i am going to put in theirs, i dont think a kitchen or anything would be good as its outside- would just get ruined.

Phoned them and caught the nurse, she's going to come and see us this morning, she said not to worry, she'll come round and we'll try and get to the bottom of it. She's still not fed yet since over 12hrs ago now...

NatalieJane · 19/03/2009 09:28

Sorry x posts with loads of you, morning everyone

Glask, can you try some water? Just so she's at least had a drink.

tinkhas2scrummygirls · 19/03/2009 10:46

it must be awful nj cant imagome what you r going through
i am buying a plastic playhouse and elc small plastic kitchen plus her table and chairs r plastic 2

tinkhas2scrummygirls · 19/03/2009 10:46

gd luck with the nurse

Cosmogirl · 19/03/2009 11:02

Morning everyone,

No baby here either...tried sex this morning - boy was that fun (not!)....I find sex much more entertaining when you can move around freely rather than stay in one fixed position!! TMI... We'll see if it does any good I supppose..

Nat - sorry you are having to go through such a worrying time....but if you any outside advice or support would be beneficial Citizens Advice or free debt organisations like Payplan give free advice on repossession etc....so you know what your options are. Hope it doesn't come to that, but don't feel that you and DH are alone in this...

LB - sounds like you've been having a tough time too. Hope all the bugs clear up soon, you don't need that on top of feeding DS.

GYo - enjoy your NCT coffee and I hope something kicks off before your sweep tomorrow...fingers crossed for you.

Right, I best vegetate - really can't be arsed today...

GruffaloSoldier · 19/03/2009 11:05

Morning all!

What a lovely sunny day!makes me feel so bright

Glask - hope the nurse gets back to you soon and you can sort your girlie out.

Tink - playhouse sounds good.

NJ - sorry that you are going through such a tough time - I hope that you can get something sorted.

Hi Gyo - have fun at NCT coffee!

Im going to pop into town later, other than that I am going to potter about home today and have a nice rest.

DH is home this morning and cleaning the house which is making me feel much better

Astarte · 19/03/2009 11:26

God Nat, it's never a simple situation is it? I think people often forget it's not just bills and a house under threat, it's all the other stuff, social circles, transport, schools etc.
Would it be worth exploring the CAB for advice on freezing mortgage payments or finance until the work picks up?

LB so sorry you've been through the mill recently. I do hope they manage to get to the bottom of ds1's illness. How is dd, is she feeling better now?
LB mail me when you get a chance

Hang on in there gals, those babies'll be here soon x

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Sparklytwinkletoes · 19/03/2009 11:26

Hi guys, sorry so many of you are having a tough time.

Poor baby LB, DD and LB! Hope you're soon back and fighting fit, hugs to you all.

NJ, you sound very rational and calm considering what you're going through. I'm sure its something that will come up when you speak to your FA, but is it an option to negotiate with your mortgage provider to switch to an interest only mortgage? It sounds like your mortgage provider will struggle to realise any value out of your home with its quirky build issues, so it will be in their best interests to support you to continue making any payments you can until business improves again. My cousin has just been through a very similar situation and he actually asked them to just get on and re-possess the house as he couldn't cope with the stress - then they came up with an interest only and he's fine, home is secure etc. Just a thought.

Your DH is very hard working and I'm sure he'll find a way through .

Glask, glad you've got the nurse coming. Just one thing on the big boob / small mouth thing, I had a similar issue, not because DS was small, just because I had the most enormous norks, and the only way we could feed (right till he was 6 months) was if I kind of gently moulded my breast into a shape he could take in - if I didn't do it, it was like a small baby trying to get his mouth round a football!! Hope nurse helps.

I threw up at work yesterday for the first time during this pg, it was vile. My boss was very unsympathetic too . She tries, but its just not genuine and kind of ends up implying that its my fault for not eating properly - but I can't eat when I feel so sick, it would just induce the vomiting to start earlier in the day! I know my body and how I feel! mostly.

I got my doppler and have had a go, and so far, have only established that I have a pulse ! Although I'm not really sure if I'm aiming for the right place - I've a feeling it might be a bit higher than where I'm looking. I've also got a very thorough layer of fat insulation to get through which is probably causing issues too. Scan is only 12 days away now.

EDD of the last one was on Tuesday, and kind of went by quite easily, onwards and upwards and all that.

Sparklytwinkletoes · 19/03/2009 11:27

oops, didn't mean that to look like a link

Sparklytwinkletoes · 19/03/2009 12:53

where is everybody?

NatalieJane · 19/03/2009 13:13

STT, I have to be rational and calm, if the kids start picking up on it, then it will only be worse, DH is blaming himself so much that if I start cracking, it'll make him feel even worse, at the moment it's all smiley faces and 'don't worry, we'll get through it's' (don't know how many times I've said that over the last few weeks) but I'm not fooling anyone, DH knows we are facing probably one of the toughest times we'll ever face, short of serious health problems there not many other bigger mountains to climb than losing everything you have except your family!

We're trying to sort out when we can go and see the FA, but it's so difficult with the kids, no one to look after them, certainly don't want to take them with us, DH could go alone but then firstly I don't want him to face the music all on his own, and secondly for obvious reasons I want to be there for my self.

I keep trying to think of things that will either get us out of the shit, or at least that will work out better in the long run (e.g. not being stuck here anymore would seem a bit of an advantage if I knew where we'd end up would be better for us IYKWIM?)

I guess I'm worried as well that so many people that go through this sort of thing end up hating each other and it really does mean losing everything, as we are now I am 100% sure we're strong enough to get through it together, but it is going to change so much, not just our lives as a family, but us as individuals, how can I be sure we're not going to turn into horrible, "the world owes me a favour", "no ones had it as tough as us" type people?

And, how the hell do we explain to a 7yo why he has to leave his friends, his room, why the car's gone, why there are people knocking on the door with the intention of chucking us out of our home? Or taking our things?

Pah, rational and calm, me?! On the outside maybe...

Astarte · 19/03/2009 13:32

my sister arranged for the FA to visit her at home after 7pm, when her kids were in bed if that helps any..

I can only imagine how scared you must be Nat, hopefully it's not a done deal and something positive can be salvaged from the situation. I agree it's best to see the FA together, united front and all that.
Is there mileage in posting for advice on the legal/money board?

Well I've got a smear to get ready for, will try to get back on later.

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Sparklytwinkletoes · 19/03/2009 14:18

I second what Astarte says about evening visits, our FA will come round whenever we want, evenings, weekends etc - and he doesn't charge either. He's brilliant and I think its quite common for them to provide that kind of service as many people are in the same situation as you, both parties need to be there, and you need to be able to talk out of the earshot of the kids.

I'm sure everything will work out NJ, I know that probably sounds trite, but the fact that you're even thinking, worrying and dealing with / about it means you're more likely to survive this and I'm sure you'll work it out.

No vomit so far today, which is good, I don't like vomit...

lardybump · 19/03/2009 14:38

NJ so sorry you are going through this. Can you contact your mortgage company and ask if you can pay the interest only or take a break in payments... Most mortgage companies will accept this in todays climate and a judge may rule that you have made efforts to sort out your payments and thus not authorise repossession..... Worth a shot!!

Is your car on hpor a loan? If so you coudl ask to reduce your payments, or look to transfer the balance onto a 0% credit card. Most companies offer these for set period but some do it for the life of the balance as it will be a balance transfer....

Astarte · 19/03/2009 14:46

could anyone have a look at my thread please?

my fanjo is broken

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Sparklytwinkletoes · 19/03/2009 15:00

Just posted....