Due April 2009: Episode 20 - Angst Ridden Fruity Fornication

[SmuttyNuttyTaff]

sorry couldnt help myself

on the last episode of april 2009 mums to be ..........

OddEyes & Babypringle are possibly going into labour Very Exciting!

Kaz & Skiingone - posted birth stories

lots of Fruity Smut, I was caught by the Fruit Fuzz and restrained

Lots more smut.......smutt...smutt

BB & WFH still havent popped (though we now have a birthing ticket system) We have to wait our turn

Boffin's AP causes more greif, beatings were handed out to a soundtrack

More commune talk

Morphine chasers with lots of soundtracks that take you back to the good ol' days

Springy & Suprise have gone to Brum for the weekend.

contractions/BH's/ movement/ailments aplenty

sorry if i have missed anything out ....

Hee hee hee

I just googled some properties for sale in Vancouver just to see what kind of place we'd live in and DH has gone right off the idea

Shulte - much better thank you

Frekkles - yep there are certainly some fine filly's in this april race! Babypringle is fired up and ready to go at the gates but the ones to watch are BB & WFH it could be a photo finish for theese fired up thoroughbreads

yes nutty it's certainly an interesting competition between BB and WFH. Some experts might plump for WFH due to her previous form and BB's statistical likliehood of lateness. But having been watching the training of these too I can say there's little to seperate them in mental preparation, as BB's early determination has slipped of late and somewhat dissappointingly she dropped out of booty camp. here's even been talk of sharing their medal places. Do you think there's any hope for us spectators that there might be a last minute battle between these two, or is baby pringle or boffin mum going to pip them to the post? and what about dark horse rachelinscotland? there's not much known of her present form is there?

Rachelinscotland is certainly the dark horse, Frekkles, possibly the one to watch! BB likes to reign herself in but i'm sure she still has plenty of fighting spirit still left! we can only hope that the battle is fierce betweent these 2 as WFH is still counting down and again she has known form! Although MissSpringySunshine had an false start she may be in with a chance and suprise us all with her crevical preparations, Mathsmummy has brought herself on well with her anatomical preparations also (we may have to watch that one for devious tactics)

indeed nutty, yes the shadowy world of raspberry leaf tea might claim her. That's why we unfortunately have to have the brave officials carrying out random RLT testing as some will always be tempted.

Interesting you mention the new fashion for cervix searches in the training schedules of these ladies. It's got so popular these days that we're starting to be accustomed the glorious sight of these young women all reaching up their fanjos in unison on the starting line as they warm up and prepare to race. Heady times indeed!

Any thoughts on the prospects of new comer Jueswm?

Ah yes Miss Frekkles! the Poor RLT Officials, a trecherous job indeed!! you never know what you may encounter with these pregnant ponies they can indded be a dangerous breed i'm glad we're up here in the box, not a job i would like to do!

Cervix searching and Perineal Massage is all the rage at the moment within the ranks of the 2009 April Races though only time will tell how effective these new training methods will be during the hurdles.

Ah now Juwesm, a latecomer but definately fruity in the field (with a preference for strawberry fields ) no known form for this one but i feel she well prosper well in her first race of the season.

Well its goodnight from me .....more from grandstand commune tommorow.

Nighty Night xx

can i join in, or is it all too late, I'm due aril 4th and not to good at this chat thing, still finding my feet,

1st pregnancy and would like to natter to people in similar situ x

Frekkles and Nutty, fine filly as I am, I am only good on the flat in this condition, so I am hoping there aren't many hurdles. The other problem is there has been some serious doping at this end, which may have an impact on form. Plus my jockey has taken to sleeping in the guest room of late, which leaves me somewhat riderless.

Schulte, I had to hide out of sight in the dining room and peek at DS2 through the window, I was laughing so much watching him dither on the driveway. They usually at least make it up the end of the cul de sac when they run away.

I did find afterpains worse with the second but it was nothing a paracetemol and a hot water bottle couldn't deal with.

Mumble, my SPD indeed started as backache on the RH sacro-iliac joint.

Welcome, jbakedbean!!

Late night catch up from me - I'm still in Brum, but can't sleep (very wriggly LO tonight, because there's no DH to calm him down by talking to him / putting his hand on him. I hope it's not a sign of things to come in terms of my authority!) & when I left things were so exciting with OddEyes (& then I heard about babypringle's waters!), that I can't stay away I'm a bit daunted by the magnitude of the task though, so may not finish tonight. At least it'll reduce the amount of DH's time I waste insisting on doing it as soon as we're home tomorrow

Boff, I'm very for you WRT the AP's antics again. If only she'd just follow instructions. & that bloke with his 'what have you done to your leg?' & not moving Idiot.

Haha, it seems that my concern about catching up is eased greatly by the many pages of musical nostalgia I love you lot

I love the idea of a mass exodus to get spoilt by my mum You're more than welcome to tag along next time!

Ju, I'm a David Tennant fan too. Lovely. He's really funny & genuine & looks gorgeous in a kilt.

I could sign up for the deli-style queuing system - I don't mind waiting, but I don't like waiting indefinitely. If I had a fixed date to focus on, I'd be much happier (& I know I'm not the only one!). It's not about being first, it's just about not being pregnant forever. & I really think that I might be.

Ooh, nice commune find, Boff. We should start a kitty.

OddEyes is still babyless I know that's best for her, but I'm disappointed

ARGH, I've never seen that dancing girl advert that you've all complained about, because I use Firefox & have things that block adverts so I can't see them. I'm on my mum's laptop & want to kick her in the shins so badly. Why's she so happy? Nobody should be that happy when we all feel this rubbish! Not cool!

Puzzle I hope you're joking about considering claiming the thread at 6am, but I fear you're not

I'll volunteer for thread reviewing Lovely idea. If you just point me at one, I'll do it - I can't keep track of who's doing what and catch up at the same time. It's late & I'm deeply stupid

Nutty, so pleased your cat's home You must be very relieved.

at 3 day old poo - did you cut into it & count the sweetcorn rings?

Boffin, DS2 sounds adorable Excellent attempt at running away - especially with the pause to put edible pictures on the cakes. Very dramatic

Oh God - Nutty & frekkles, I love the commentary Fantastic! xx & I won't be next (after babypringle, who I assume is all babied up by now?) by any stretch of the imagination. I am getting lots of contractions still (in fact I think they've stepped back up a gear) but only about 1 in 6 are painful & I'm still only 36 weeks. As a first-timer, there's just no realistic chance Besides, I need to do some more cervical manipulation first!

I'm feeling really weird & hormonal about being away from DH. It usually doesn't bother me, but it doesn't sit well with me at the moment. I think it's partly why I can't sleep (although he's a terrible disturbance when he is around!) - I seem to instinctively need him close to me just in case I do suddenly pop. I shan't be spending any length of time away from him for quite a while, I don't think. Last night I had a nightmare (about hamsters - it seemed really important & distressing at the time ) & woke up & was really upset to find that he wasn't next to me for a cuddle.

I hate being so annoying & clingy. Still, I'll be back with him tomorrow & he can stop worrying that I'll go into labour here & end up with a Brummie baby Late night catch up from me - I'm still in Brum, but can't sleep (very wriggly LO tonight, because there's no DH to calm him down by talking to him / putting his hand on him. I hope it's not a sign of things to come in terms of my authority!) & when I left things were so exciting with OddEyes (& then I heard about babypringle's waters!), that I can't stay away I'm a bit daunted by the magnitude of the task though, so may not finish tonight. At least it'll reduce the amount of DH's time I waste insisting on doing it as soon as we're home tomorrow

Boff, I'm very for you WRT the AP's antics again. If only she'd just follow instructions. & that bloke with his 'what have you done to your leg?' & not moving Idiot.

Haha, it seems that my concern about catching up is eased greatly by the many pages of musical nostalgia I love you lot

I love the idea of a mass exodus to get spoilt by my mum You're more than welcome to tag along next time!

Ju, I'm a David Tennant fan too. Lovely. He's really funny & genuine & looks gorgeous in a kilt.

I could sign up for the deli-style queuing system - I don't mind waiting, but I don't like waiting indefinitely. If I had a fixed date to focus on, I'd be much happier (& I know I'm not the only one!). It's not about being first, it's just about not being pregnant forever. & I really think that I might be.

Ooh, nice commune find, Boff. We should start a kitty.

OddEyes is still babyless I know that's best for her, but I'm disappointed

ARGH, I've never seen that dancing girl advert that you've all complained about, because I use Firefox & have things that block adverts so I can't see them. I'm on my mum's laptop & want to kick her in the shins so badly. Why's she so happy? Nobody should be that happy when we all feel this rubbish! Not cool!

Puzzle I hope you're joking about considering claiming the thread at 6am, but I fear you're not

I'll volunteer for thread reviewing Lovely idea. If you just point me at one, I'll do it - I can't keep track of who's doing what and catch up at the same time. It's late & I'm deeply stupid

Nutty, so pleased your cat's home You must be very relieved.

at 3 day old poo - did you cut into it & count the sweetcorn rings?

Boffin, DS2 sounds adorable Excellent attempt at running away - especially with the pause to put edible pictures on the cakes. Very dramatic

Oh God - Nutty & frekkles, I love the commentary Fantastic! xx & I won't be next (after babypringle, who I assume is all babied up by now?) by any stretch of the imagination. I am getting lots of contractions still (in fact I think they've stepped back up a gear) but only about 1 in 6 are painful & I'm still only 36 weeks. As a first-timer, there's just no realistic chance Besides, I need to do some more cervical manipulation first!

I'm feeling really weird & hormonal about being away from DH. It usually doesn't bother me, but it doesn't sit well with me at the moment. I think it's partly why I can't sleep (although he's a terrible disturbance when he is around!) - I seem to instinctively need him close to me just in case I do suddenly pop. I shan't be spending any length of time away from him for quite a while, I don't think. Last night I had a nightmare (about hamsters - it seemed really important & distressing at the time ) & woke up & was really upset to find that he wasn't next to me for a cuddle.

I hate being so annoying & clingy. Still, I'll be back with him tomorrow & he can stop worrying that I'll go into labour here & end up with a Brummie baby

Also, I wish LO would stop hanging out of my side. He's really getting on my nerves. I love him dearly, but I'm getting to be quite at his fidgeting.

He can simultaneously hurt the inside of my pelvis & boot my ribs so hard I can hear them crack. & when he's not doing that, he's got his bottom sticking out below my boobs & making the skin go numb, or just below my ribs so I can't lie on my side because he's jutting so far out & has wedged himself so I can't move him.

Again, this'd better not be a sign of things to come. I could do with a lovely, easy-going child who sleeps & rarely cries & does exactly what I want him to. Not some nightmare example of concentrated Stubborn.

This is what happens when two bossy eldest children breed - I'm the product of that in the first place & now it's just the next generation of awkward. Horrible boy. I'm going to keep him heavily sedated until he's at least 30.

morning all
The poo was three days old because that's how long it had been since DD had a bath but come to think of it, I'm sure you could calculate is half-life without too much trouble..as for counting rings, it had disintegrated a little too much tbh....

experienced mummies (or not, just anyone with a brain) what should i do about DD's early waking? We were out til quite late last night and I'm really feeling it. Since moving her into her new bedroom (new bed with just handrail) she is getting up 6.30-7am. Some days just potters around bedroom for an hour or so - fine - but others no way, woke up this am to DH shouting at her to general defiance. Have a clock thingy but she pretty much ignores it...

oooh WFH yes let's!!! sending syncing vibes to you too!!

LOL Smutts and Frekkle (feel better frekkles!!)

Schultes that sounds like a really nice day - glad DD is on the mend! VAncouver? How come - what do you think about it? Oh just seen that DH has changed his mind!!!

Springy, I started feeling quite clingy to DH about the same time as you, to the point when I got really upset when he worked at the weekend!!! Think it is natural because the next few weeks are so uncertain and this is something that you are going through together - while other people thing are involved to a degree, this is something only you and him are truly going through.

This LO has started punching me in the pelvis really really hard - so springy I would take your awkward DS anytime and swap you for a violent mum-basher!!! However, this seems to be the ONLY movement I am getting at the moment, get occasional wriggles but on the whole just thumps!!!

Had a fairly good night last night, we went to bed really early and slept through with just one toilet stop (amazing) and no massive pains - I still have back ache but not as crippling as it was before so feeling ok this morning - DH is working this morning so going to get all my chores out of the way so we can have a nice relaxed afternoon.

What we all up to today?

MM you could always go with springy's MIL's technique of tying them to the radiator???

sounds like a plan..best find my extra-sticky tape...

Mathsmummy, I have forgotten how old your DD is (3.5 I think?), but I used to put out a little breakfast picnic in my DD's room on Sundays, with things like raisins, little biscuits, a bit of dry cereal in a ramekin, cubes of cheddar cheese and a cup of juice or milk, and put her weekly comic with it for her. That used to buy some time for a nano lie in. She loved it too.

Struggling today. DH has started getting his monster headaches every Saturday and Sunday again, which means I have to look after the DCs in a mobile fashion, which I can hardly do. Meanwhile he lies in bed a lot. We're lucky if he is up for six hours a day in total.

It also means I barely leave the house as I am so reliant on him to get me out in the wheelchair. I went to the hairdressers with the DCs yesterday but did myself some damage, so very bad today. Often Sat/Sun is the only time I leave this building, but it looks like that won't be happening today now. I am a bit fed up tbh. It is a lovely day and I was looking forward to going to the garden centre. I am so disappointed.

Boff, do tablets help him at all?

He took some Solpadeine at 4am and I think he has just raided my drugs stash for some codeine, but that just conks him out.

I think it's impossible to predict who will be next. I am convinced that I will go to 42 weeks, however - just because it would be just my luck (plus, I would rather be prepared)!

Springy - mine is doing similar things, particularly when I am sitting up in bed early in the morning .

On a different note (and I don't want to post this elsewhere due to MN militants) - I went to antenatal class last week about breast feeding and it has scared me a bit. To be honest (bad mother mark 1) I was unsure about it anyway, my mother claims to not have produced any milk and there is no real sign of it in my case (breasts haven't even grown during pg let alone leaked). This is kind of confusing for me, because it has never been more than a possibility for me IYSWIM.

The thing is that it sounds pretty difficult to start with and if I am not committed to it then is it worth it? I can do pretty well anything if I'm determined, but the fact is that I'm not really . I would be really worried about the 'production' side so would therefore end up staying in hospital for longer to make sure that the LO isn't going to get nastily dehydrated before the 'milk comes in', which I don't want to do either. I asked MW about whether some women just don't produce and while it is clearly rare it is obviously not completely unheard of either.

In addition, I have a hiatus hernia and have to take Omeprazole all the time. It is apparently fine to take while pg, but obviously given the choice I wouldn't take it at all pg, or not. I asked the MW about taking it when BF and she said she wasn't sure, thought it would be OK, but that I needed to see a doctor. I have since googled it (OK - I know ) and am fairly convinced that the doctor will say that it is probably OK but they can't be sure. (There is less evidence on its safety than in pg). Even if it is supposedly 'safe-ish' do I want to keep feeding this drug to my baby or do I think that the nine months of the whole pg is possibly enough? I realise that there are obviously health benefits to BF for the baby but who is to say if they outweigh the possible risks of this? Coming off it isn't an option - I wouldn't be able to eat!

I'm just so confused about this and don't know what to do. I suppose I could go to see a doctor and discuss it with them but feel I'll be wasting their time if I then FF anyway. No, I think I do need to go to talk to a doctor about it but anyone got any other thoughts/advice?

BrettGirl, some thoughts:

1. At this stage, you have no way of knowing whether you will produce milk or not. Leaking and breast size isn't really an indication. Mine have not grown much and they don't leak, yet I know for a fact I normally produce enough for about 5 babies (it seems).

1. If the risk is said to be low for certain drugs going into bm, then it's low, and you should listen to that and get on with what you want to do. Mentioning it to your GP would be sensible, just to double check. Believe me, they are quick enough to tell you when there's a high risk.

1. It will soon become patently obvious if your baby is not feeding properly, and the helth professionals will all pick up on that straight away. it is one of the key things they look for. It takes a little while for a baby to develop health problems on account of this, so you easily have a 24h window to start bf to see what happens. However I would have a pre-sterilised bottle and some cooled boiled water to hand though, just for your own peace of mind, in case you are waiting for a mw to come to see you about it, and want to make sure your baby doesn't get dehydrated. In the bigger scheme of things a bit of cooled boiled water would do no harm as long as the baby spent a lot of time on the breast as well (and I mean a lot - like practically all day clamped to your front!)

1. Really the best place to get bf advice is the National Childbirth Trust, and tiktok on MN (who is an NCT bf counsellor) so I would try there rather than your GP or MW, who may not have a clue tbh. You need consistent advice based on facts, not old wives' tales about your milk not being good enough and so on. Remember our mums' generation more or less lost the art of bf completely and were told all sorts of nonsense that is still hanging around. Remember also in your bf journey that weight charts are based on (white) ff babies, btw, and sometimes need to be taken with a pinch of salt as bf babies grow in a slightly different way.

1. Can you borrow a pump and see if you can get even a drop out? Then you would know your breasts were active.

1. I think there is even an injection you can get to stimulate milk production, as I have an idea adoptive mums sometimes do this.

Interesting facts on drugs and bf

Brettgirl - I have no experience in this area but my advice would be not to worry - you have to do whatever feels right to you - if you don't want to bf then don't - don't feel pressured into it! Just see how you feel when it comes - if you feel like bfing then do it, if it doesn't work then pop to tesco and buy all the ff stuff and do that - at the end of the day it's YOUR baby and YOUR life, do what ever you want to!

Boff gives all the right advice for getting more info - I personally am going to try to bf but if it doesn't work, it doesn't work I will be out buying ff too!

Hints here on bf adoptive children There seems to be a website for everything!