Over the Moon to be Due in June 2009

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Here's the new thread. Hope you'll find it. There is probably a more up-to-date list of us all at some point in the thread, but I couldn't find it. The newbies will have to add themselves on....

Bumpsadaisie 28th May
CoteDAzur 28 May by dates, 1 June by scan (37, dd 3)
swottybetty 30th May (31. DD 07/03/08)
llynnnn 1st June
Myneaux 1st June
Bigcar 1st June (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8, dd3 2)
joyfuleyes 2nd June
marmotti 2nd June
gems27 4th June
Mrs McJnr DC2 4 June 2009 (34, ds 8mths)
Ineedmorechocolatenow 5th June 2009 (31,ds 2)
summerbird 6th June (35, 1st one)
daisy5 6th June (41, dd 2)
LittleSarah 6th June (26, dd 4yrs)
thisisyesterday 6th June (ds1 3.5, ds2 1)
DreamyDorrie 7th June (30, dd 19/11/07)
Yoshimi 7th June (ds 18nths)
Aligard 8th June (one dd)
Leaky 10th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
DawnoftheDead DC1 11th June 2009
Champagneforlunch 11th June (27, DD 4yrs)
NickelSodium 12th June
travellinglight 13th June
Sparkle73 13th June
Froggy16 13th June (27 ds 6 yrs dd 4yrs)
Nemoandthefishes 14th June [30 DS 5[+2days],DD1 2.9yrs,dd2 21mths]
Irishmama3 17th of June (36) [dd 9 ds6 and dd2
chocciedooby 18th June (37m ds1 4, ds2 3)
onehitwonder 18th June (41 DD1 3)
ermintrude13 20th June (41, dd10 ds6)
snowwombat 21st June (31)
TTCnumber3maybe (36) DC3 22 June 2009 (DS 4.5 and DS almost 3)
StrawberrySam 22nd June
Diege, 22nd June (38, dd1 7, dd2 5.8, dd3 2.8)
Heebeejeebee - 22nd June (36)
BobsWendy DC3 26 June 2009
TheLittleMermaid DC2 26 June 2009
Tee2072 DC1 26 June 2009 (39)
Sweetie34 - 29th June (37)
Wilsonmummy 28 2dd edd 30th june
mamaolivia 31 dd1 2.6 - due 30th June
NotSoRampantRabbit
tessofthedurbervilles
boundoriginals
helpivegottogivebirth
Li lacpink
mel1981
flynn1984

Hello all! Hi herbaceous! My SIL and sister are both pharmacists (SIL used to make and do all the research, and sister is a pharmacist in a hospital) and say that Vicks is fine. I had a really stinky cold when I was about 10 weeks and I was desperate without it. I had to put in a emergency call to them both very early in the morning!! I only used one spray up each nostril, but it was heaven to be able to breathe! I must admit, it is so bloody handy having all that advice on tap!

All good here. Lots of movement from the little bump. My DS (who has just turned 2) is finally understanding that mummy has a baby in her tummy and gives it little kisses, which is really cute. He's a real cuddly little thing and I think it'll be a bit of a shock (as it always is, I suppose)...

SIL used to make all the drugs and research risks - it should say x

StrawberrySam, ermintrude and choccie - totally feeling you on the big boobs! Have gone from 30DD to 30F, last time I got to 30G and now even my 32F is feeling a little snug!

Welcome herbaceous! I love vicks sinex! It's all that helps me when I have a blocked nose at night, luckily haven't had a cold recently but am sure it's only a matter of time.

Myneaux - I didn't feel dd until 22 weeks last time so don't worry!

I'm feeling pretty knackered getting back into the swing of uni and work again. Have skipped a work meeting this evening so I could come home and chill out. Also since I've been back I've found myself feeling a bit sick again and wretching in the morning. I guess that shows what 'r&r' can do for you.

Hello everyone, and a belated happy new year! Had a lovely two weeks away from computers, and am now towards the end of a manic first week back at work - hence the silence! Hope all of you with colds are feeling better soon, reach for that Vicks

Had my 20 week scan yesterday morning (I'm 20 weeks on Sat) and it was just brilliant. All the measurements/look of various baby bits was spot on, and we saw he/she do a lovely big stretch! Got three great little photos, one of a foot, one showing the baby's elbow resting on its knee and the little hands, and one of it's head and chest (the baby wasn't lying in a suitable position to get him/her all at once!). The radiographer didn't say anything about the sex, and we didn't ask. We'd planned to have a surprise baby, but I do feel funny that we really won't know until the baby arrives now!

I'm still waiting for a kick, so it was brilliant to see the baby looking so lovely.

I'm stop gushing now before it gets too annoying

Sweetbroody I think your scan is tomorrow, hope it goes really well!

Also, yes, the clothes thing is getting tricky for me too! I don't fit in any of my usual skirts (I did before the Christmas hols) apart from one which was always too big and I HATE maternity tights. I've got a pair of black maternity trousers from New Look but they're still a bit big. Looks like a few of us are at that funny midway phase between normal stuff and maternity stuff. Tunic cardis are sorting out my top half, including a wonderful one from Monsoon January sale (the only time I'm allowed in Monsoon!). And I need to sort out the bra situation, not sure what size I am now, but definitely not the size I'm wearing

Mhairi100 Really glad your scan went well, oh don't worry about gushing, we do love good scan news . It's really comforting in a way.
I can't wait for mine on 21st as I can't feel the baby move either. I've been watching the video we've been given of the baby which is wicked (though most of the time you can't work out what's what.)
But I've started crying everytime I see it now which is annoying.

It's probably better if you don't ask for the sex cause then they can concentrate on showing you parts of the body you can actually recognise! My dh asked at both scans if they could tell the sex already (it's really bugging him not to know) and I think it was a waste of time as the sonographer kinda said it was too early but she'd try anyway, then just spent ages going round in circles seeing nothing and the session was over before you had really got time to see anything at all.

Thanks June . Video sounds lovely! It's amazing how much babies are up to in there before you really feel anything. Am still at the memory (when I'm not nearly blubbing like you with your video )

LittleSarah, did you realise you wrote this:

StrawberrySam, ermintrude and choccie - totally feeling you on the big boobs!

Well, just stop feeling us on the big boobs, keep your hands to yourself! Lol

I really need to get measured properly before I end up with4-boob syndrome, when the bra cuts 'em each in half. Not pretty.

Mhairi100, glad the scan went so well. We're not finding out the sex either (although so saying, the baby will probably wave its genitals at us so we won't be able to avoid knowing what it is!). My scan is 3 Feb when I'll be nearly 21 wks. Really looking forward to it and hope we get some waves.

hi all

ermintrude mine is on 3rd Feb also!! Just 2 days before my 40th birthday!!

June - I'm a 21st Jan scan too. Can't wait.

I didn't feel anything till 22nd week last time - it took an already great wallop in my ribs to realise it definately was DD. As soon as I felt it, I realised that I had felt other movements but had put them down to stomach settling or heart twinges or other such stuff. This time I felt Thumper at 16 weeks because I sort of knew what to expect.

Btw way - no feeling up of my boobs going on - I seem to have dropped way off the 'desirable' scale . Hard to look alluring with a giant tum and growing bottom.

Also it seems I have some work from next week. My old boss from 4 years ago (when I stopped working) rang me up and asked if I would do some work from home on a casual basis. Great money and I thought too hard to turn down. So that will boost the coffers a little. We will try it for a month or two and see if it works out. It may be a bit hard as he is based in Europe so all by email and teleconferences. Also, I haven't mentioned I am pregnant, as he might pull the plug and it is initially on a trial basis. Anyway, I reckon I could still manage to squeeze 16 hours out of a week a couple of months after Thumper is born. Did anyone else do this? Though feeling a tad guilty though about not mentioning I am preggers. He is a friend and has supported me in the past. But it is a fantastic job and a great starting point back into my carreer which has gone awol - so I thought I'd risk it and play the 'too ambitious to risk mentioning pregnancy' card.

daisy5 You could always pretend you're one of these women who gave birth without ever realising they were pregnant ;)

When to tell people is such a personal decison. One of my friends didn't tell her own mum for ages because her mum didn't approve of the dad-to-be and the longer she waited the harder it got! She told her eventually and everything was fine

Hey ladies

Another Mountain Goat here Daisy & Ermintrude slightly concerned about having a Gemini child, if she?s anything like my mother or SIL I?ll be grey long before my time ? I typed that before I read your post sharing that fear Daisy, great Capricorns hey! My DS?s due date was 15/1 so safely a Capricorn but he was 9 days late and became an Aquarian like his father all that said Capricorn and Gemini are meant to be very compatible, Ermintrude?!

Daisy - Loving the nickname ?Thumper?! I find names a bit of a bore too. We have one for a girl that we agree on and no matter how hard we look we can?t find anymore not that we don?t love the name but I?d be happier if we had a back up! I keep dreaming that I?ve let the cat out of the bag and told our relies what it is! Like you, we knew from Day 1 what our 1st DS would be and we also have another boy?s name lurking in the wings too. That job sounds very interesting!

Ermintrude ? PMSL at the phrase ?Honeymoon Freshness? I have never heard that before

Flynn & June ? hope you are feeling better.

June ? doesn?t sound like your Accountant is too clued up lots of water consumption is good, I need to drink more, my skin is awful

Hey there Borriebear, Bigcar, Tee, Choccie, Littlesarah and Mamaolivia!

Welcome and congrats Kitteh!

StrawberrySam ? thank goodness for a diagnosis even if it sounds pretty scary, hopefully you?ll be one of the 80% and all will be fine, fingers crossed that the bleeds will calm down and the placenta will move up. Pre DS I was a 32E, at full capacity I was a 36K when BFing but they did go back to the old size again when I stopped BFing (if not the same texture and shape?!) I seem to have jumped back to an H already this time though!

Ineedmore ? induction on your birthday (or any day frankly..) would be rubbish! If this baba doesn?t appear within the arbitrary timeframe they?ll want to induce me on my Mum?s birthday.. no chance!! Your DS sounds sweet, I look at mine and wonder and worry how he?ll get on with B2, he?s so little I feel mean having another so soon in some ways.

Myneaux ? I?m sure bigger sizes would work if you buy longer lines than usual hope the scan goes well, mine is next Thurs ? scared as always!

daisy5 - with both DD and DS I never really stopped working except for about 3-4 wks after the births. Have explained this elsewhere in a thread on SMP, but basically my Board at the small arts charity I ran were so nice and gave me full pay for 6 months, and I loved the job so much, so although it wasn't exactly easy to fit in a few emails and phonecalls and reports each week, it was perfectly do-able. I think if you're motivated (including by the need to earn something!) and like what you're doing then you can work around even a new baby if you're based at home and if the babe isn't too demanding or poorly, and if you aren't too knackered. Maybe mention your pregnancy to your friend though, in a positive context, so he doesn't feel you've put one over on him? Although since it's freelance it's not quite the same rules as being an employee I guess.

MrsMcJr my Gemini husband and I get on v well indeed! Fortunately I had no idea whether or not that was to be expected, astrologically speaking. It doesn't seem to add up for me, eg. I can't bear my brother, but I adore my DD who shares his birthday but none of his traits. I have 2 Pisces sisters, one of whom can be tricky and demanding emotionally while the other one is so laid-back she's practically asleep; a stressed-out Aries sister and a very practical Virgo sister. Although I have done management jobs using classic 'Capricorn' skills, I now write fiction and use the other side of my brain much more. No wonder I don't set much store by the signs .

Tee ooh we can compare notes after the scan:
"We saw its little hands and it waved at us."
Well, ours was tap-dancing and giving us the thumbs-up, so there"

Thanks for all the clothes tips....I might try and get some dresses at the weekend. Ive never been very girly but perhaps its time to embrace my feminine side.

You have all made me chuckle with the boob talk !!....having gone from a 32B (on a good day!) to a 34D I cannot imagine what it must be like being a K cup. I have always been fairly flat chested so dont know how you bigger girls manage...they seem to get in the way all the time !

I had to ditch all my bra's at about 10 weeks and went to M&S where they told me that you should really only have non-wired bra's when you are pregnant as the wires can damage the breast tissue. In the end though I just went for a normal underwired one in a bigger size and thankfully they havent grown since (though I dread to think what colour my one white bra will be by the time I grow out of it) !!

Myneaux - I am still in underwired at the moment, partly because when I went into La Senza to get measured their maternity sizes start at 34, and I'm still a 30 round the back!

ermintrude - oops!

No idea re starsigns and fraid I don't really believe anyway! My brother and sister are twins, both Libra, both totally different. Although from what I've read about Pisces my ma definately fits there...
(baby should be Gemini and no idea about them).

Hope all is well with everyone. Very jealous of all the 20 week scans coming up. I could get one. They are supposed to be bringing them in here now but apparently most midwives still don't know when it's happening. I shall ask mine on Tuesday.

Well all this talk of boob sizes thought I would give my input. Before falling pregnant I was a 38DD now I am a 38H can't imagine how I will breastfeed with those

Also can anyone help me...I am getting really worried about my weight, I know it's something I shouldn't concern myself about whilst pregnant however before I was pregnant I was 13st 7lbs and now I weight 14st 2lbs to think that in June 07 I was unhappy being 11st what I would give to be that weight again.
I am looking for any advice you guys may have on how to control the weight gain as I cannot bear the thought of gaining anymore. I can't discuss this with DH as he gets really angry when I try and describe how upset I am with my weight and how I look It annoys me that when he has a problem I listen all the time and I'm very understanding but when I want to discuss something that seriously bothers me he shuts me down

Sorry for the me post!

flynn - it is hard isn't it. Some people say 'don't worry about it, it will drop off afterwards' and I listened to this last time but I am not sure it is the best advice for all people, all of the time. Some people loose weight more easily than others and I do not loose weight easily.

I just ballooned with my first pregnancy, hated my body, hated looking in the mirror, and after I had given birth was huge (reached 100kg). It took me two years to loose the weight - just last March did I finally get back to 71kg.

I was doing quite well this time. I am now counting in kilos, and started at 74.5 when conceived, was 77 mid Dec, but have jumped to 81 as all the rich food and chocolates just undid me (when I told my partner I was getting bigger - he said 'yes, your bum not your bump'!).

I find it so hard not to pick, and am so relieved that the contents of our fridge have gone back to being 'normal'. So now I am going to try to be strict for the next month. No chocolates, no desserts, only one small sugary thing per day mid afternoon and otherwise fruit as snacks. Pita bread with meat and salad things inside for lunch, muesli and yoghurt +banana and smoothie for breakfast. Non fatty meals at night with lots of vegies...and I will see how I am doing in a month.

But don't worry too much about it. There is enough to worry about with pregnancy and babies without making it even harder. Sometimes we have to take a bit of a 'whatever will be, will be' approach and go with the flow - your body tends to 'speak quite strongly to you when you are pregnant and tells you what it needs'.

Sorry your partner is being a pain about all this. My partner can be a little this way too - uncomfortable (disinterested) in discussing the important issues. Isn't Mumsnet a godsend in that way. Is your partner being good in other ways about your pregnancy?

ermintrude - thanks for your thoughts. I had a good think about it last night and concluded that as there is probably a 30% chance that our arrangement just won't work (due to distance and perhaps not being up to it) I thought I would try it for one month before I start explaining my 'situation'. His new region is new to me, and I suspect I may not have all the skills he requires for this position (he sometimes has rather optimistic view of my abilities). Good to hear your experiences.

hello mrsmcjnr, fellow Capricorn - I laughed and laughed at your Gemini comment. Yes, Thumper seems to have stuck in my mind - although not so much thumping last night and I slept right through which was nice. You sound quite organised on names compared to us - I keep scanning the credits on TV programs hoping to see something that we will like.

What a long post. I have been so naughty the past few days - being on Mumsnet when I have a gazillion chores around the house to do - like ironing which I am going to do right now.

flynn, sorry to hear about your weight issues, and especially DH's inability to deal with your anxieties - some men can be so rubbish at that; it's like they're scared of your emotions and want to run and hide.

There's been talk of weight gain on earlier versions of this thread, with the usual huge range of opinions you'd expect, and a huge range of gains from zero to 4 stone. Some lost it fast after birth, others are stuck with it for years, some are v bothered by it some just aren't. I think it's one of the areas where we have to find our own sensible way through it bearing in mind our pre-pregnancy weight, level of activity etc. If you're already overweight it's often possible to avoid putting on any weight in pregnancy because a healthier diet with lots of fresh fruit and veg, high-fibre, low-fat protein like fish etc. can automatically reduce your weight gain. Only v obese women are advised to actually diet when pregnant, and then only with medical supervision, but most of us, let's face it, will lose weight if we stop eating fatty, sugary foods, drink no booze and follow a healthy eating plan - no need to be hungry or take in inadequate calories.

I was a stone heavier than I should be when I got pregnant so I'm trying not to pile on the pounds with unnecessary sweets and Gregg's sausage rolls, but don't want to make myself miserable about it, so have the odd treat. I've had awful m/s and am still vomiting regularly which has kept my weight gain at 5lb in 17 wks - every cloud.

Hope you can talk to your midwife and get some perspective on it - and don't beat yourself up about it or get too down, If you manage to control the weight gain that's great, but only as long as doing it doesn't make you stressed and unhappy.

Re boobs - my sis was 32JJ after her baby was born and found the 'rugby ball' feeding hold a good way of dealing with her beach balls! Also a little gentle massaging around the nipple as the baby fed. Her DD is 3 months now and an expert guzzler

Morning everyone

When I went to M & S yesterday for measuring I was wearing an underwired and the assistant told me not to wear them and that they are not allowed to measure people up for underwired! Tbh I do feel much more comfortable now I am in a non wired so there must be something to their theory.

Is anyone having nightmares or strange dreams lately? My recent horror one (which may not be a horror to many) is that I wake up with twin boys breastfeeding at the same time!It's the fact that I am not expecting twins and tbh cannot face the stress of breastfeeding after my previous experience.(nothing against breasfeeding, just not for me).

Daisy thank you for your input. My Dh is a lovely person and being so helpful in many ways since I fell pregnant but when I discuss my weight he just, as I said, shuts me down and says it doesn't matter how much I gain which doesn't help me any. I'm hoping that with cutting out fatty meals and starting back my exercises (stoped them in 1st trimester due to being scared of miscarrying) I will be able to keep the weight I'm on at the moment or not gain too much more.

Also that's a good opporunity you have with work at the moment, I would possibly say to the boss that you are pregnant, but if you are friends then he should be understanding about it.

Everyone else a big HELLO and thank god it's friday!!

Myneaux ? they do say that about the wire (risk of mastitis) but then again, if you are properly measured and the wire rests on the bone and not the flesh underwired is fine and frankly needed if you ask me! I got quite a few bras from Bravissimo but since I have been in Spain I have been buying Abecita (Swedish make) they are fabulous, low cut, supportive, comfy and they come in black and beige as well as white. I have just bought feeding bras straight off this time as I started going down the sizes again when BF tailed off so think I?ll make use of them at that end too. I also found that a few soft bras to wear at night also made me more comfy.

Hi Littlesarah ? I do know people in Edinburgh who complained to their MSP about the lack of 20 week scans because it is a government recommendation that you have one and they then got the money back that they spent on a private one. I had mine last time at a place just off Shandwick Place, very thorough and professional. Cost £195 though

Flynn ? I get down about weight and it is scary seeing figures you?ve never seen before on the scales but you have only put on 9 pounds so far and that isn?t a great deal. By week 21 with DS I?d put on 8 ½ pounds and I was heavy for me when I got pg with him at 12 st 3. I am 5ft6 and like to be around 10st so I was already carrying far more than I like to. In total over that pregnancy I put on just under 2st and by the time DS was 12 weeks old I was back where I started when I got pg and that was with a serious cake habit. That said the distribution was different and my tummy was still very fat when I got pg again and I didn?t like the post partum me at all but I loved being pg last time, it was the first time in my life I?d liked my middle and it felt great. Have you tried the pregnancy diet in the What to expect book? That may help walking and swimming as well as yoga are great when you are pg if you find your usual exercise too strenuous (I get out of breath much faster when pg, I guess it?s all your inners being pushed up the way!)

Daisy ? your food plan sounds good, DH and I are always good at dinner time having a high fibre low fat meal but hunger does creep up on me during the day and I just grab what is nearest which is often not that healthy. I am expecting a weight gain rather than any more losses at the Dr next week. I scan credits on all programmes for names too! We sound quite alike! have you tried www.nymbler.co.uk? I know what you mean about MN eating into time, I got so much more done when my internet was down for a few days but DS is sleeping at the mo so I am enjoying some me time on here.

Ermintrude ? LOL sounds like there is no truth to the signs traits in your family then! What kind of fiction do you write? I never mastered that rugby hold to feed though I did try it; thank god I am not having twins! I will never forget that day 3 feeling of hugely inflated, hard breasts! If I hadn?t been so concerned about getting DS latched on I am sure I would have found the whole thing highly amusing, shame there were no mirrors in the shower room at the hospital!

Choccie ? LOL pregnancy dreams hey!!

MrsMcJnr - Yes I've never been as strict with all those no underwire chat as I should be, not in pregnancy anyway!

Re private scans, we can't really afford it so I'm hoping they will finally give us them like they've said they will. I never really thought about it last time, ignorance is bliss eh, but this time I'm more concerned.

Flynn - It's funny that when you're pregnant people say you don't have to worry about your weight and of course it's actually quite a big issue. I am opposite to you (sorry!) in that I think I've probably gained a pound or two max and had late scans last time because I was small. It was good because I didn't have much too much weight to lose post pregnancy but worrying in case there was something wrong during.

I think all you can do is try and eat as well as you can and not feel bad if you do gain a bit more than you'd like. It can be lost after, even if it does take a while! I think my ante natal yoga helped me so maybe some extra exercise?

Hiya all.

Sorry to hear about your anxieties about weight Flynn I have the same as I put on 4 stone with DS, and managed to lose it all with Slimming World within a year. I've put on a fair bit this time (10lbs a few weeks ago, but haven't weighed myself since then). Slimming World is the only eating plan that professionals (midwives and doctors) recommend during pregnancy and breast feeding as it isn't a diet - just makes you eat healthily with unlimited amounts of all that is good. It's not points counting like Weight Watchers and I found it really easy to follow (once I'd got my head around it). I'm going to start loosely following it (as soon as the pregnancy guide arrives in the post from Slimming World). It's not about losing any weight during pregnancy - it's about limiting the amount of weight you put on.

Anyway, if anyone fancies it, I can email you all the stuff and photocopy the relevant bits of the pregnancy guide and post it on. Let me know and I'll post my email address.

My boobs have also grown massive, 34 C - 34E at last measurement. I haven't worn underwires since I found out, but then I had mastitis last time and didn't want to tempt fate.

I also had a horrendous experience breastfeeding chocciedooby last time round. I am going to give it another go, but it does make me incredibly anxious. I think I'm far more worried about this than the birth (I found it a doddle in comparison to the feeding). I'm trying to get lots of support in place this time round. I wasn't on Mumsnet when I had DS so didn't have this as a support. I'm also going to go to a few drop in sessions at the hospital.

Anyway, happy Friday everyone. Hope all is well and the dreaded MS /headaches / backaches / snotty noses / aches and pains is/are calming down.

Ineedmorechoc, as well as b/f advice from Mumsnet users, you may also have a La Leche League advisor near you, or an NCT b/f advisor, and so if you had a bad experience last time around it could really help to have someone supporting you in person. I was lucky enough to have greedy babies who latched straight on (though I did get mastitis once - bloody awful!) but know lots of women who found the help of an expert really useful in the early days, especially when mothers and mothers in law and husbands are all giving conflicting information or nagging. My sis had terrible engorgement, and a friend who had her 1st DC at 40 was just pathologically terrified of the idea of b/f, and both found an advisor really useful and are now b/f like old hands.

If you can treat it as a new experience this time around there's no reason why it won't work and it does make life so much easier.

Thanks Ermintrude. I've already got the details of the BF counsellor at the hospital, and I'll try and contact LLL (though a few friends have had real trouble getting through to them when they've needed to). I'm certainly going to get loads of support in place. It's easier said than done to treat it as a new experience as it was so traumatic for me, both psychologically and physically, that it's going to take a long time to get my head around. I'm determined to though!