Dec Mums - Christmas is coming...the Dec ladies have got all fat...time to have our babies...the novelty's worn flat

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Here's a new link for us all - think it needed doing asap as running out of space!!

Summer - i wouldn't say it hurt. It was a bit uncomfortable, like period pain. It was more 'forceful' than I was expecting - I thought it would be a bit like 'tickling' the cervix but it was more a 'whole arm' effort with quite a lot of effort involved from the mw. When she took her fingers out they were really bloody. But I wouldn't say it was painful for me. Undignified, embarrassing, yes, but not painful!

Congratulations Allie. Glad you are all well.

I'm with trace on the sweep that it is more forceful than painful, they really have a good old rummage. I remember feeling ok after but then getting hit by cramps etc on the way home. INternal exam during labour though, the most painful thing in the world ever, more painful than head crowning!

Congrats Allie.

Gah, does not sound much fun!! But glad it is not too painful. Lordy, I am not looking forward to this giving birth lark!! Maybe if they could invent teleportation and they could just teleport him out!

it's getting quite painful in my belly now but I'm wondering if it's wind! Grrrr. Wish you could google "is this labour?" and get a straight answer!

Eeek, I don't like sweeps. Don't think I had one til overdue with DS but not fun. But as others say, there are reasons for doing them pre-40 weeks.

GBB I am excited that "our" twins are on their way...3 cm is very good going!

Kayz sorry about your flood. Last thing you need at this point!

allie well done on having your lovely boy - and well done to your consultant! That is pretty good going. Transverse lies are no joke, eh.

trace and orange hope your sweeps work for you both!

Zoe that's so nice that you saw your Gran and that she will get a great gandchild soon. Do you feel AGES away from your due date with all these gals having their babes? I know I do...2 weeks tomorrow! Yay!

Indith sorry you are worried about your DS. Sometimes, I think its just a phase (sorry very annoying thing to say) and can cooincide with late pregnancy, jabs etc etc that make us think it's more than it is (not that it isn't obviously distressing). I also think with my two that even at that age they can know how to press your buttons, and can find the attention rewarding during the night (not that I would ever leave a child that young to cry it out etc etc).

But my friend who is a child pyschologist (and very child-centred) says that on stuff like night waking etc etc it is very important to make sure that they are "getting" very little out of it (eg a constant stream of drinks, cuddles, chat etc she describes are "putting money in the jukebox" and feeding the habit). I have no idea if this has any relevance in your case, but I found it useful when my 3 year old started night waking after 3 years of basically doing 12 hours. But obv, she was older.

Reban hope you are doing Ok after your fall.

ladyT HV sounds like a right mare. LOL at the mugs. I have one that says "Scummy Mummy" that you could borrow now !! (not that you are scummy but you are of course now a Mummy!)

WG sorry you are down. I would try and see the m/w next week to keep in touch.

Busy day today. Still battling with garage over charge to disable front air bag. They charge £197 PER HOUR for labour. Crazy! Took the DC to the soft play place - but mentioned it before remembering I have no car (duuurrrr) so we had to take a cab there and back!

congrats Ali and Snorris

PD lovely name

Artichokes-I am already overdue. Went over with the other two as well. Have until 19th to go into labour if I want to go to the birth centre. After that induction looms. boo.

My 5 year old DD has been horrid this evening. Tantrum on the way home from school, culminating in her getting home and throwing her shoe at me!! All because she could not go to a friend's house. And I thought she would be fine about a new addition to the family. Sent her up to her room while I cried and 2 year old DS looked at me like I am a nutter.

LadyT do you blog? If you don't, you should. You write so well and fluently - cow of an HV but your telling of the tale is hilarious - esp the mugs and effluent!

Am annoyed w clinic here. DD2 gained 2oz last week (in spite of bad jaundice) - and has gained 3oz in the past four days... but they say the 3oz is too slow! I thought 3oz in 4 days is about average for BF babies?

They won't discharge her until she makes her birthweight - but have discharged me, which is fab. Have to go back on Fri to get her weighed again - sigh.

I was thinking the same as verso, ladyT, you definitely have a way with words. I was trying to get outraged on your behalf re the HV, but I was laughing too much at the way you told it!!!

Verso so sorry they are not pleased with DD's weight gain - how annoying. Get her to knock back even more of your milk and hopefully she'll have gained enough by Fri. When do babies get reweighed ? Evan hasn't been weighed since just after birth - I have no idea if he has gained/lost weight.

kayz your day sounds horrible - bet you can't wait for it to be over.

LadyT at rude HV - how dare she !

I had to call and cancel my sweep which was booked for the Fri after I had Evan - am quite glad now hearing these stories of forcefulness and fingers up the cervix - eeek you poor ladies !

Congrats Allie

i missed this page just realised.
hope the kitchen gets sorted soon kayz
ladyT your hv sounds very rude.
re sweeps I have one booked for 15th but will be 9 days overdue by then. wouldn't bother before then are they are pretty unpleasant

Oh sweeps uncomfortable but not too baad, I am booked for one next Wed I will be 40+8 by then.

LadyT bloody stupid HV they are a breed of their own when I had Archie she came round to visit us and within 2 mins of filling in her paperwork she wanted to know was I a victim of domestic abuse and she said you would be surprised how many people are and I said yes of course shocking awful thing to happen but do you really think I would tell you when my partner is sitting next to me.

Kayz poor you I am in a similair situation we had to call our builder out today and now on Friday I have several men turning up at 7.30am!! to rip apart my ensuite and my attic.

Alloe massive congratulations these babies are coming thick and fast now.

Green and blacks chocolate is featuring very heavily on the thread am going to have to go and purchase some and try it Dp is always raving about it but I am a cadbury's gitl at heart. [frin]

Indith you poor lovey. In my experience I would say it sounds very much like night terrors, not much you can do about them just ride it out. Id DP still working away or is he able to help you at night time. I would try and keep him in his bedroom with a very faint light and jsut gently soothe him.

Verso that is brilliant news cross fingers that tonight goes as smoothly. As far as the bubbas weight it sounds like DD is defo gaining weight slowly but surely just carry on as you are and try not let them upset you.

Howdy to everyone else.

lady t I think your hv goes to the top of the list for hv comments competition. Also like your slut mug, but solo wish your do had given it to her. Might get one in readiness for our hv visit. I remember the old battleaxe who visited us for ds came an hour early and we were all in bed. She asked what I did and I told her I was a peadiatric nurse, a couple of minutes later she asked if I thought being a nursery nurse helped prepare me for motherhood. Now I can understand a layperson getting the very different jobs confused but another health professional!?!

Trace it sounds like you could be having early labour or non established labour.

Oooh, maybe the sweep has done something. My whole lower abdomen is really painful (like you Trace it feels like it could be chronic wind ) but my back aches too and I feel a bit sick and slightly odd. I know this is probably not "it" but suddenly I am scared. All evening I have been remembering just how grim labour was, how I thought I was going to die from pain and how I haemorraghed afterwards (sorry first timers). Please let this time be better!

Mibbes - my DD was weighed again when I was discharged, 4 or 5 days after she was born, and had gone down from 3060g to 2800g. Even though she is bottle fed this is apparently par for the course. The last Thurs she was still only 2860g, but yesterday she was 3100g. I am guessing your little one should be weighed soon (have you had a visit from the midwife yet?) but it really seems to vary.

Ah yes - huge congrats to Allie and Snorris!

Gah, don't worry on my behalf about the HV. She was only a bossy old bag. She gave me a leaflet for NetMums as well (purleeze). She kept rounding off sentences with a very very faintly threatening "but you will obviously want to speak to me about that." These subjects ranged from Infacol to methods of contraception to instilling a routine (she is evidently a GIna Ford devotee, which is fine, but I come over a bit weary when people say picking up a crying baby is 'spoiling' them). Anyway, thanks for compliments, I feel a bit daft now. I don't blog but I do write travel articles for an extremely downmarket newspaper and various other jobbing this and thats. DP said please don't post about this because "I know you will list the mugs".

Oh, hang on, LO is crying, more later (again).

Kitchen is practically sorted now. We have a carpet cleaner that sucked up most of the water.

Just had a lovely chicken curry. Maybe it'll do some good.
I am not being superstitious(sp) so bad luck wont run in 3's.

Hi all. Just out of hospital today. Gave birth on 5th after induction. Failed to progress at end as they had position of baby wrong so registrar tried to change the position internally, then tried vacuum and in end forceps delivery. Felt quite traumatised by the end but have a lovely baby boy. 7lb6. Haven't named him yet but nearly narrowed some down.
Then probs with feeding and temperatures so kept in for a while but home now. Baby still not breast feeding ( quite a lack of support and inconsistent advice in hosp) but am expressing and starting to get enough to do this exclusively.
He's gorgeous.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Congratulations to new arrivals since my last post.
Best wishes to everyone else.

Modernlove, typing with my tiny DD on my lap so can't say much at the mo but really wanted to say, many congrats, it sounds like you have had rather a tough time, but I bet your little boy is really lovely and I hope things go really well for you all.

Hello everyone

I haven't been able to come online since last Wednesday due to a faulty router, and a dh's dodgy rewiring, so i don't know how long this will last!

Congratulations to all the lovely ladies that have had their little ones

I was due on Sunday, but the little one seems to want to stay put for now, so i'm having a sweep tomorrow (sounds lovely! )

I'm going to try and have a catch up on the thread (again!)

Hope you're all okay xxx

Modern - congrats, but such a shame you didn't get good BF support, that is one of the only things I worry about missing out on with planning a home birth.

Jam - I think G & B chocolate is made by Cadbury now anyway so you're not being too experimental

I have been offered a sweep at my 40w appointment but after reading all this I think I will opt to wait till next time and hope something had happened by then.

As someone who had home visits can I ask where sweeps are normally performed ie hospital bed? I will need to think about the logistics of internals and sweeps as midwife normally just gets me to lie on the sofa to listen to the HB and check positioning but sweeps sound like messy things!

modernlove congrats on your baby boy!! He sounds lovely but sounds like you have had a tough time. Your boy could have a whopping headache which won't help with the feeding. I cannnot recommend seeing a cranial osteopath enough, imho it should be compulsory on NHS for babies who have had an instrumental assisted delivery. Forgive me if you know this/other people have said...

Hiccy hope all kicks off soon for you!

sorry about all your troubles Modern but good result in the end a beautiful bub. Shame you didn't get bf support you needed but it is all out there in the community so access it. Well done.

Verso hope you have another good night.

Ladyt I don't think you couldn't have mentioned the mugs. What's the point of having them if they can't be published on a thread such as this. We don't mind the word slut, I think it is clear that we have all had sex at least once so know about such things.

Katz your father should be ashamed of himself giving such things to children.

Arti, hope things start moving but above all hope it's better this time round. I've said this before I know but my sister had a horrendous labour with my nephew (she was deeply traumatised and it gave me a huge phobia of vaginal birth) and then the birth of my second nephew, also a vb, was so amazingly different and better for her adn genuinely a positive experience. I've heard this with other people too. Not trying to frighten anyone btw.

Glad the kitchen is looking better, Kayz!

Jam, I think your HV's remark definitely trumps mine Where do they recruit these women? Central casting?

Indith and Majormoo, sorry you are having a trying time with your tiny tots. It sounds really difficult. I wish I had some solid advice but I can only offer you my sympathy.

Turnip, I AM a scummy mummy. My jumper's got bobbles on it And trails of baby sick on the shoulder.

Verso, how is DD2 today? Hope you aren't dreading tonight so much.

Right, my back is aching hunched over lile this so I should pop off. Love to all.

It's ok Veggie, it's only that DP fears that that the mugs in his cupboard might hint that he is Not a Serious Person. The I am Not a Slut, I'm Just Popular mug was a gift to me from him as he said the girl on it looked like me. (Suffice to say I don't look much like her now ) Ooooooh no sir.

Thanks everyone. Feeling quite battered and bruised! Still determined to breast feed and have a community advisor coming out in the next couple of days. Turnip - hadn't been advised of this so may look into things.

turnip I meant to say earlier that car cost sounds a bit excessive. In our last car we could turn the passenger side airbag off ourselves. Not sure in our current car as there are more airbags. Can you check with the manufacturer.