Due Jan 2008 - Ahhh getting close now!!!!

[mixedmama]

Helloooooo????

MM - Yeh my MW doesn't seem to take any notice of DP either but then he doesn't really make an impact. Just stands there and watches (even though when we get out he has loads of questions about what just happened. I think he's shy)

Right ladies. Names!!! - Anyone got any yet?

I want to put my dad's name in it if it's a boy which is Robin but can't think of any first names except Christopher which is too winne the pooh, lol. I like Matthew and Cole.

If it's a girl DP has decided on Aaliyah (i'm not too sure on it yet) I like Ffion but DP won't have a welsh name (even though his child is being born in wales and has a welsh mother!! )

LuckySalem - last time when i got on the couch she actually closed the curtain so DH couldnt see..... appaling.

Names: they all sound lovely. I think MrsMcJnr is thinking of Aaliyah... very pretty.

We are having a little boy and he is going to be Ediz Candan (which is my dads name and i know is spelt ridiculously for English people but is pronounced Jundan sort of) anyway we used Dh dads name for DS1 so will do the same for this one. They both also have my maiden name as a second middle name.

MM - That's terrible. I feel for you, she does really sound like a Divvy!!

What nationality are you? I don't recognise either name as british so guessing you're not. Just wondering where they come from. Ediz sounds nice, i'm assuming i'm pronouncing it right.

We are having a Nathan Isaiah. Only posting it here because it is anonymous. Only parents know, plus a friend who had a stillborn Nathan (she has since had a healthy little boy with a different name, but I wanted to give her time to get used to the idea)

I like Isiah (unfortunatly I know an old, idiotic boss who was a nathan so i have a bad buzz about it) It's nice that Nathan will be remembered in that way

Mixedmama are you Turkish?

You need to get rid of that midwife now. Write to the Supervisor of Midwives at the hospital, explain your problem and demand another one.

By the way, measuring is not particularly accurate. NICE says it is fine to do it as it does no harm, but by now I know lots of gals who have had unnecessary scans and scares about big babies as it is just not that accurate.

By the way, has anyone seen tripletsandtwins anywhere? Is she posting somewhere else?

Half Turkish half English. Ediz is Turkish as is my dads name.

Just wrote a rant about names and the bank and then realised how irrelvant it was.

Mixedmamma- refuse to move until you have been given answers!!! and measurements!

im off tomorrow girls, so wont speak until thus....dont go giving me too much to catch up on!

what i mean beller is that I will have moved house by the time LO arrives so altho staying at same hospital for delivery will be looked after by the post natal MW team from Royal Free insteadof Whipps Cross so no more of shabby MW.

Have a good day off.

Toomanyshoes ? how are you? How is the diabetes situation?

Amani ? at least at desks we can practice optimal foetal positioning lying back on the sofa would be no good for that I have not heard that about the cord and I plan (and have agreed with my consultant) to only cut the cord when it stops pulsing so the baby can get the best from it (unless I start to haemorrhage when I?ll need the syntometrine smartish and Beanie will have to be set free) Like you, and before my NCT class, I thought hospital was the best place to be to establish BF but it?s now been pointed out that the noise and bustle may be counter productive and as it?ll be a while before your milk comes in, it is just really technique you are practising with the MWs in hospital. As long as you have support in terms of MW, HV or helplines, BF is just as well established at home if not better.

Beller ? I was reading last night about the advantages on being on your own with a baby (not that I am planning to get rid of my DH or anything?) the book basically said that if it is just the two of you, it is harder in some ways but easier in others because you only have the two of you to consider yup, NCT again the next two Sundays. I am sure we probably will end up meeting up for coffee etc, we?ve all got each others contact details and I?ve had some email chat with one of the girls already who I knew from previous things I?ve been to at the hospital as I sent her some info on something

Like a lot of you, I have been really restrained with baby clothes, I have the newborn white basics, a few of my nephews outdoor things and a few new gender neutral things but that?s it ? the only thing holding me back is the fact that I don?t know the sex, I have to admit I could so easily go mad!

Awen ? that?s fab about the scan, can?t wait for mine now, I so hope that I get a nice sonographer who?ll show me things that?s great about the VBAC too I know this sounds militant but don?t let them force you into induction at 40 weeks if you don?t want to, it could be a slippery slope to another section, read around it and make sure it works for you

LuckySalem ? sorry that your Mum was annoying you, I have learnt now just to say nothing to mine, my sis had a home birth and my parents had plenty to say about it!! Sorry to hear MW wouldn?t discuss your birth plan, discuss with us instead Aaliyah is our chosen girl?s name I have never heard anyone else say that it is also their?s before ? great taste! as I am sure you know, it means ?exalted one?. I loved the singer?s voice and still listen to her a lot so I?ve liked the name for years, DH likes the name too luckily our chosen boy?s name is Xavier.

Trying not to look at the changing bags ? I know my sis is getting me one and I shouldn?t think it will be too snazzy, more practical I should think

Ayreshirelolo ? I read last night to start the raspberry leaf at 32 weeks, do you think I should wait to be 35?

Anyone doing perineal massage??

Naetha ? the frame should be ok but I?d get a new mattress if I were you. Thanks hon just don?t want to miss a word any of you say, too interesting and far more interesting than work (why oh why do I have to have so much to do??! ) I?m hoping/expecting an early appearance too ? I am trying to tell myself it could be the end of Jan but from where I am standing now, the biggest shock would be early not late! Glad you got the DSD issue sorted these things are so much better nipped in the bud!

Angechica ? hope it goes well at the MW today sorry to hear that it wasn?t a good weekend

Hey Lulubump ? I quite like the taste of the tea (I drank tons when TTC ? was meant to help the uterus then too!) your SIL is really odd, the investigating in the baby?s room would have got me going too

Nicky6 ? glad to here DH went with you to AN class hope the murder does finish soon but really you could get all the basics you need from a one stop internet shop at Boots, John Lewis or Mothercare

Hope you London ladies had a fun night last night

Fluffy - sorry to hear about the worries at the GP you need to slow down a bit.

Babato ? how awful about that roof! enjoy your various outings!

Madmouse ? Nathan was on our list too but DH says it?s off now after all the nonsense with my dream about the guy from Heroes! Sorry, I am ahead of you but just by two weeks! My EDD is 15/1; same as Barristermum and quite a few others

So good to have finally caught up!!!

Anyone got a fool proof plan to make sure you are at least 8cms dilated before you get to hospital? NCT teacher said we could check ourselves but I?m not sure about that

MrsMc - I wish I knew of one as I don't want to go in till I have to. Nice to say can check ourselves but honestly wouldn't know how and def not sure if i'd want to.

If I was to get to the hospital before I was lets say 8cm can I ask to go home again or will I have to stay in then?

I dont think there is a foolproof plan MrsMcJnr. I would just go when you find it too unbearable to be at home.

LuckySalem - they will send you home if you are below 5 cm I think anyway (unless you are 4 cm and i guess close to 5cm).

As if any of us would be able to reach to check anyway.... certain Dh wouldnt want any part in that.

I think they do send you home if you are less than 6cms generally (is that right?) I am just scared that they might not let me leave due to the high risk status on my notes even though I will be fine and am at no risk at that stage. I feel that the longer I am there, the more chance of intervention there is .

I was thinking of waiting until the contractions are 5 mins apart, lasting a minute and have been that way for at least an hour or even better two and if possible, to wait to identify contractions with a double peak as you are only likely to get those later on - is that a good point of reference does anyone know?

Lucky - did you see my comment to you on your name? snap!!

MrsMCJnr.... I had been contracting all day not mega painful or anything and went to get checked and was 2cm. I went home and they came every two mins for 45 seconds each and were painful so went back as coudlnt talk through the contraction which was supposed to be a sign.... got checked and was still only 2cm, then I just stayed.

That's what's on my birth plan that I want as little intervention as possible. I want to rely on as little pain relief as possible as well so that i'm "all there" when the little 'un arrives.
I'm just worried if I get there too early then they'll decide my labour isn't "progressing" fast enough and start all sorts which I sooo don't want. In fact i'm really really against it. I understand if the baby start to fret or something then i'll think about it then but if not I don't care if i'm in labour for 24 hours (well I do but you know) I don't want to be fussed!! I've got so much stuff in my birth plan that i just know is going to get cut.

MrsMc - Yeh I saw the Aaliyah note. DP has said if I have a girl that's the only way he's accepting her if we can call her that! lol. He loves Aaliyah and she's it as an homage (sp?) to her.

hmm] MM I suspect we all hope that we are further along then we actually are at the time! What did you do when you were at the hospital between 2cm and 10? There is only a tiny waiting room at mine and they won?t give you a delivery room until you are 10cms!

Lucky ? your thoughts sound really similar to mine, in a nutshell ?let me be and don?t mess about with me unless I specifically ask you to!?

MrsMc - Yep exactly that. My worst fear I think is that they'll have to put a constant monitor on me and induce me. That and CSection obviously. I've told DP this and asked him to be my fist but his answer is "if it'll make it quicker why don't you want to do it?" same with pain relief "if it makes it easier of course you want it all" lol

We've decided on Benjamin Llewelyn as a name - both me and DH are happy with it, and my Welsh grandparents and mother are over the moon with it

If he turns out to be a she, then we're going with Alexa Rhiannon

Luckysalem ? you?ll have to get your DH into your way of thinking or else you won?t feel safe. Mine is getting there after his recent classes and knows that I don?t want medication if possible and that my main reason for that is the effect that it would have on the baby. I know he will remind me of that in labour to keep me going if I can. Of course if I can?t bear it, that is a different story. I am terrified of intervention and it makes me feel much better that DH will approach all scenarios (if I am unable) on the basis of BRAN: what are the Benefits? What is the Risk? What are the Alternatives? What happens if we do Nothing? They can?t do anything to us without our/our DH?s consent so they have to justify it to us first until we are happy with the explanation that thought makes me less scared.

LuckySalem - dont put too much emphasis on your birth plan as if anything doesnt go according to plan for whatever reason you will be so dispointed and you dont want that after the birth.