Dec19/Jan20 IVF Graduates

[BambiOnIce80]

Graduate thread for all the amazing ladies who have endured infertility and are hopefully now starting a new chapter🤞

@Littlelot @Viletta @candycornlover @FlapJackered @Wimbledon1

I got my BFP on Tuesday the 28th and am feeling pretty symptom free today (so obviously panicking that it's all going wrong! 😣). 7 week scan due to be Tuesday the 18th and it feels like a long way away with symptoms going awol! 😥 POAS this morning and it looks spot on for where I should be, so trying to take some comfort from that 🤞🤞🤞

@MrsLouB lots of ppl I know have had bleeding or spotting both early & some continuing throughout pregnancy. It’s shit scary but all ended well. My sis in law due end of April had a lot she’s currently very large & can’t wait to meet baby. My son carried by my friend we had an emergency scan at 5.5 weeks as she bled but I was in with him last night for too many hours to mention 😂🤣stay strong

Sorry for the multiple messages 😳 Seems MN had a bit of a glitch

thank you @Goldencloud fingers crossed for you too all will be ok it is hard to relax xx

@Minster2012 lol thank you xx

It is minimal at the moment so just hope it stays that way

Oh @Mrsloub sorry you have to go through this, but as the others say many women experience similar, it must be super scary. I would agree the "big problem" would have come with definitely a lot more blood at this stage.

@BambiOnIce80 and @Wimbledon1 I was thinking maybe blueberries in America are bigger than the UK ones :D It is a big jump though as I am currently at a peppercorn (5weeks) so if it becomes a blueberry on week 6 that is some remarkable growth indeed. although as I said before based on my bloated belly I would say I am closer to a pomelo :)

Just that I have my scary story as well I got home yesterday from work to see a letter from my clinic summing up all details of our rounds (start date, meds, eggs retrieved etc.) so it shows

Embryos transferred: 1
Embryos frozen: 1

Then at the bottom of the letter it says:
Although you consented to storage of embryos, there were none suitable for freezing.

So obviously freaked out (as you do), but it was too late to call them so talked to them this morning and they apologised saying it was an error or their part and we definitely have an embryo in the freezer.
Pheww! Some of you might remember this is not the first time something like this happens with my clinic, oh, the little joys in life :)

thank you @Lily999 the spotting has changed now to more pinky red like the start of my period still scanty but i have seen this so many times before, it would just be so hard after seeing it yesterday.

I dont think i can wait until tuesday to find out

Can you not book an early private scan for Saturday? Or would it not make sense as it's too early to see the heartbeat?

@MrsLouB - I'm sorry - that must be really stressful! I'm assuming your scan was internal? I read somewhere that our cervixes are very sensitive just now and can bleed easily, especially after internal exams or intercourse. Fingers crossed it clears up soon so you can relax again!

@MrsLouB have you spoken to your clinic again about the change in colour?

@chooklass has a very good point & it leads me into a TMI point & question if anyone would be kind enough to share that would be great as this worries me...my DH (& I) but he is finding it more difficult as I’m sure u can imagine is keen to DTD & during the TWW we found other ways to amuse ourselves together 🙈. I did ask the clinic about intercourse now & they said it’s fine but it does worry me about causing bleeding knowing so many ppl who have bled im keen to try & avoid unnecessary stress. Has anyone DTD “normally!”? If so from when? Any repercussions do you think??? Sorry 🤦🏼‍♀️

@Minster2012 this is something I wanted to ask as we haven't done that since ET as we are both terrified I know I can bleed after intercourse and I know we would freak out. Have never been pregnant before and it took us years to get here, but no idea what to do about this as we can't just stop and not do it for the rest of 2020...? Maybe after the scan confirmed everything is ok as I imagine it will help us relax a bit (but even that is almost 2weeks away).

Hey Everyone.

Yes I have spoken to clinic and they just said i have to wait until Tuesday for the scan and that doing another one now will not effect the outcome and just have their fingers crossed its all ok. I assume the heartbeat is not visible until then? i am 6 weeks today and it could not be seen yesterday. I had looked into a private scan for tomorrow as we are at a family meal and wanted to announce it to them but now i dont feel i can.

I still have cramps and light spotting thats all it is at present so i still have some hope.

Yes it was an internal one and i have read that too, as anything inside can cause us to spot as so much blood and sensitivity the area. xx

Firstly I'm sorry for how stressful this must be @MrsLouB. I know I'd feel exactly the same, but as many others have said, I'm reading everywhere that spotting can be totally normal most of the time. Thinking of you and I hope things settle down 🤞🏻

Welcome @GoldenCloud to the group and congratulations on getting your furthest ever, very exciting. Although you are right, totally nerve wracking. I've never been pregnant before but am feeling basically normal so that's freaking me out. All we can do is wait, hope and enjoy what we do have!

Speaking of which, on the questions about DTD, nope. I've not let him near me since embie went back in. Sounds like this didn't happen to many people, but my consultant expressly told me not to after ET because contractions can dislodge the embryo. But basically everyone else seems to have been advised that it's fine. We have our early scan tomorrow so if all is well and there is actually an embie there, I'm going to ask them about resuming things like that; and swimming which they also told me not to do.

@FlapJackered - one day to go. How are you feeling?! x

thank you and good luck with your scan @Wimbledon1

@BambiOnIce80 @Wimbledon1 YES to the pee pain!! It's reassuring to know you get that too.

@Wimbledon1 thanks for remembering ❤️ I feel like throwing up when I think about the scan but looking forward to getting past it!
Good luck to you too! What time is yours?

Congratulations @GoldenCloud @Minster2012 and @lls1990 and welcome! 😁

@Viletta good idea on the date night! What did you see at the cinema? I am just so tired at the moment the idea of venturing outside in the evening is just not appealing! 😂

@MrsLouB I am sorry you're having a worrying time with the spotting. I know it is really common to get bleeding, my sister had proper red blood on and off throughout the 1st trimester but it stopped and baby is all good at 27 weeks.

@Lily999 oh no that must have been worrying! Especially when you can't call the clinic to check, thank god it was frozen after all!

I am the same with not letting DH near me, I think if the scan is good tomorrow I might relax a bit on that front, but definitely going to be very slow and gentle 😂 not sure that will be what he has in mind after a month of abstinence!

@Viletta @BambiOnIce80 was your scan internal or external? Just to be prepared for tomorrow 😬

I have had THE most confusing letter from the midwife dept. Do not understand what I am meant to do! 🙈 They have given me an appointment 9th March but have said I need a form before that which is in a pack which I have to collect, but don't say where I get the pack from 🤷‍♀️
Also I am guessing DH's don't come to the booking appointment?

@Lily999 just us thinking it then! 😂😂 Gosh I wouldn’t want to go 5 weeks without DTD & I we waited until scan then ours would be 5.4 weeks. I will after birth if we get that far 🤣

@Wimbledon1 I’ve got such a bad cough currently that my cough would definitely dislodge it more than DTD so I’m hoping that’s not the case!! As I lay awake last night in violent cough spasms I actually had that thought 🤦🏼‍♀️

Ummm, we have DTD a couple of times since the BFP 😬😳 First was maybe 2 days after and wasn't the greatest experience because the awful chalky stuff from the utrogestan was still 'up there' and didn't half chafe a bit! 😳 Did have a bit of pink afterwards, but was certain it was the chafing rather than anything else! Gave it another whirl last Friday and all was good in the, ahem, hood 😉 DP was also pretty keen in the wee small hours of the morning of the 7 week scan, but I pointed out to him that I was going to be having an US probe rammed up there in a few hours as it was, so that's probably enough for one day 😂 I guess that probably answers your question about tomorrow too @FlapJackered ! 😄

Welcome @GoldenCloud 👋 Sounds like you've been through a hell of a lot to get here 💐 Keeping everything crossed that this is your time 🤞🍀

So sorry to hear that you've been having a rough 24 hours @MrsLouB 💙 I can't imagine how terrifying it is, but I'm keeping everything crossed for you that it's one of those normal early pregnancy bleeds 🤞🤞🤞

Of all the things to get wrong in a letter @Lily999?! 😨 So glad it was just a typo 😪

That is the world's most confusing letter @FlapJackered 😕 I'm taking DP with me to the booking bloods, just because I know they need to fill out the family origin questionnaire for both ourselves and our OH. We need to know our ethnicities at least 2 generations back, but should obviously mention if we know that great, great, great, great grandma was Napalaese/adopted/whatever. They also might bleed him there and then if he's of an 'at risk ethnicity' for a haemoglobinopathy (mine is), so thought he could come along and make the midwives life easier! 😂

So my cover was blown at work this morning 😰 The nice blokes I share my office with bought me a haggis roll for breakfast... which I couldn't eat because it has liver in it! 😱 I bloody love a haggis roll normally and they saw my face and said "are you alright, what's wrong?" and I was umming and ahhhing trying to think of a plausible reason to not eat it and one of them laughs and says "you're not pregnant, are you?!" - my face was apparently a picture! 😳 I fessed up to them (I didn't want to end up with a desk piled high with haggis rolls that I couldn't eat/look like a really ungrateful bitch by turning my nose up at them!) and they've sworn they won't say anything, and I know they won't. It does mean that I've had them regaling me with parenting advice every time it's just us in the office now though! 🙄

@Bambionice80 good to know you tried and it caused no harm :)
Just got a call from our midwife, she is super sweet and gave us an appointment for the 17th of March, so March is getting busy! She sounds very young, surprisingly young, not sure if it's a good thing or not, for some reason I imagined midwives to be wise old ladies haha!

It's not easy keeping this from colleagues given how much time we spend with them every day and how well they know us. I am pretty sure it didn't go unnoticed that I suddenly swapped to fruit tea from coffee either, it's just one of those things I guess.

@BambiOnIce80 It hadn't even occurred to me we weren't allowed haggis!! I thought it was mostly made of lung with only a small amount of liver so would be ok as long as cooked properly? I guess it depends on the recipe used! Are we allowed black pudding?

I've been a total zombie today. Everything is a massive struggle and I've got hardly any work done. If I knew it was just the day I would have just gone to bed, but since this could be weeks/ months (years!?) I need to find ways of coping with tiredness! Small walks in the (very) fresh air definitely help and drinking plenty water. I've been sleeping much better which is s relief.

@BambiOnIce80 🙈 gah! I was hoping you wouldn't say internal, I am really over foreign objects being shoved up my hoohaa on a regular basis 😂🤦‍♀️
😂😂 I love that a haggis roll is what blew it for you!! Hilarious! It must be quite a relief for them to know now though?
Good thinking on the appointment front! Hopefully DH is around and can join.

That’s so funny @BambiOnIce80!! Haggis roll!! Never knew such a thing existed 😂now that prob will become my craving 🤣🙈
Also pleased that someone has done it 🤫I’m also a bit freaked out by the pessary remnants but he’ll have to get over that if he wants it! Yes my DH was u for DTD the morning of my last lining scan (when the one before had said it wasn’t thick enough for transfer?!?!) and then he came with me to the scan & was like “oh ok I can understand why you wouldn’t appreciate something up inside you today especially as you were worried!” Yeah, thanks!

everything worries me now though

Oooh, that's exciting that you've spoken to the midwife @Lily999! 🤩 I'm very sure that mine will be younger than me 😏

Yeah, it's the liver thing that makes it a no go @Chooklass 😞 It's so rich in vitamin A that we can't have any at all (I honestly think it's the one food item on the pregnancy no-no list that I'm devastated about! 😭). Stornoway black pudding is fine though (blood not liver and all that) 😋 Just as well as I think my world would end if we couldn't do our weekend brunch treat of Stornoway eggs benedict anymore! 😱 😉 Sorry to hear you're zombie-fied 🧟‍♀️ I'm feeling mostly normal at the moment... Long may it last! 🔮🤞

Sorry to burst your bubble on the internal US @FlapJackered! 🥒😂 I actually said to my doc that it had felt really weird not having that shoved up there for 3 weeks 🤣 Will have to remember not to go into autopilot at the 12 week scan and not drop my knickers as soon as I'm through the door! 😳 On the colleagues knowing front, I don't mind that pair knowing because they're 50-something blokes who I know aren't gossips. I'm still just being cautious I guess because I'm worried about the trisomy risk and am conscious that the more people I tell, the more I'd have to explain myself to if the pregnancy should end - thinking positively and all that and praying it won't happen, but still... 🔮

My DP did get it too once I joined the dots for him @Minster2012! 😂 And most things worry me as well (haggis rolls, etc 😉), so you're not alone 😘

@FlapJackered my scan was external. We watched Parasite and it was really good!

We DTD in the usual rate, I was a bit anxious after bfp but it seems to be absolutely fine. Pessaries are gross so we schedule around them:)

My tiredness has slowed down and I feel normal apart of having more difficulty waking up for work in the morning.

Hope everyone is doing great!

@Lily999 I missed the bit about your letter earlier when I posted. That's SO BAD 🤦🏻‍♀️ god don't they know how stressful this already is?! 🤯

I'm in at 11.15 tomorrow @FlapJackered. How about you? If it goes badly I might honestly not reappear here, so if that's the case I wish you all the greatest of luck with happy and healthy pregnancies. :) I know what you mean about the nerves. I'm not feeling good about it at all, the absence of any symptoms, including the fact last week I was a zombie like the rest of you and now I feel ok; has made me pretty concerned there is just no embie there anymore. I've read everything there is to be read about missed miscarriages (how good for my mental health eh?!)

@BambiOnIce80 that story made me chuckle. Outed by the haggis. What a proud local story! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Speaking of outing, if I do get through my scan tomorrow does anyone have any suggestions for navigating a wine tasting evening on Saturday?! Our friends set something up ages ago to get together; then said they'd like to make it a wine tasting evening at theirs. DH tried to intervene as he's a great cook, by saying he really wanted to cook and did they mind if he did that instead...and then in the end they said "sure you host and cook the dinner; we'll bring all the wine and do the tasting first". So that was a lose:lose. Now we have to cater and clear up a big meal, and I've still got the wine problem. I might just have to tell them I think....!

I know the fear isn't a logical thing @Wimbledon1 , but just remember that @Viletta and I have got past that first scan and we're starting to feel normal-ish... normal doesn't have to be a bad sign for tomorrow 🍀🍀🍀 And that's a bugger of an evening you've got yourself on Saturday! 🍾🥂😕 I'd go for antibiotics for a UTI if I were you - metronidazole or tinidazole will do 💊 Definitely can't drink on those 🍷🚫👍

Good luck to you too for tomorrow @FlapJackered 🍀🍀🍀 I'm hoping to see some nice pictures of beans/seahorses/caterpillars/amorphous blobs/whatever your embies look most like from yourself and @Wimbledon1 tomorrow! 📸😍📷😍

@Wimbledon1 mine is at 1pm. I feel exactly the same! Fingers crossed we both get through it and all will be well. 🤞
That's a tricky one with the wine tasting! Can you spit and say you find it better to taste the wine that way?!

Thanks @BambiOnIce80 fingers crossed 🤞😬🤮