Due October 2007 ~porkers can't keep their snouts out of the feeding troughs!

[j20baby]

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Delighted your scan and check up was fine floria! Glad you managed not to panic too when they couldn't find heartbeat - you're a better woman than me! Hope the rest of your day goes well and you're not too tired....

hi all,J20 - noticed at the end of the last thread that you'd asked if anyone had a 7 yr old. I do. What's up?

sorry j20 - just realised that you'd got a link. Have posted there instead!

Hi,

I just heard about this thread. I am also due in October - the 14th. I can't believe that I only have 13 weeks to go!

Hi Stefka, and welcome to the October club!

We have the same due date (or at least - one of the three I've been given is the same as yours, and that's the one I'm sticking with).

Hope your pregnancy is going well so far.

Floria - lol at consultant not able to find your heartbeat! Glad all fine and dandy with LO.

Office becoming unbearably hot because the sun is shining! Yay! Must try to focus on work...

Later x

ok - what am I doing wrong with the bold? Sure that's how I did it before

and now it works - just to make me look daft! Do you have to put little stars round each and every word perhaps? How tedious!

Welcome Stefka!

Hi everyone - thought there'd probably be a new thread starting as the old one was humungous

Haven't got a hope in hell of catching up with everything that's been going on - I've been away on a hen weekend in Paris... I was really good fun and nice to have a weekend with the girls before such things bcome a thing of the past! Plus I'm going to miss the actual wedding as it's at the end of September in Italy when flying will be a big no-no...

Had a great time, although it was terrifically hot, and I did find all the walking around pretty tiring. Our little one is already on of the girls though, as she allowed us the jump the most enormous queue to get into the Moulin Rouge . One of the security guards noticed I wa pregnant and wham, it was walkie-talkies a go-go as we were rushed straight to the front and straight to one of the best tables in the house dierctly under the air conditioning.

The attitude towards pregnant ladies seemed very different there - the same thing happened at the Louvre, and other places and I got a seat immediately every time we boarded the Metro... made me feel quite special and looekd after - it was nice . Over here we really need to sort it out...

Hope you're all doing well. Just had my Mamas and Papas delivery and all seems present and correct! Very exciting.

Had the hallway replastered in my absence this weekend, they did a great job and DH spent 5 hourse cleaning up the mess so is now up for 'husband of the year' bless 'im.

Anyway - big hugs all round - no babies yet I hope!?

DB
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Hey stefka - glad you found us! welcome to the october thread!
one of the books i have read that is quite good is the rough guide to babies - quite amusing but very well written with it. also agree with the claire byam book on breast feeding. is fantastically written - to support those who and cannot b/f.
since i also enjoyed what to expect when you're expecting, will most like get the first year.....

Hi everyone; Polar I would totally agree with the other posts - Baby Whisperer totally sorted me and DS out until he was well over one, (we started it at about 8 weeks, did everything on demand until then) always been in a really good routine and I'm hoping will still be when this LO arrives!

I b/f for a year, with an evening bottle from 8 months - have to be honest, I think reading other posts that I was really lucky. The only problems I had were an inverted nipple (it got sucked in in the last few weeks of pregnancy and went horrible and sponge like - had to use an electric breast pump to pull it out!!) Took two or three days, but was def the worst bit cause I was really struggling to feed him from that side and got myself into a right tizz about only using one side - then saw a b/f counsellor who explained the amount they need in the first days is the size of a walnut, which was reassuring! The other problem was mastitis which I think is pretty common if you exclusivley b/f for a while. But am really glad I did it this way and hope to the next time too - although as someone else said it will be a lot trickier this time round, DS would feed for an hour every 2 hours.....not sure I'll manage that with a 2.5yr old at home too!

But as with everything, you have to do what works for you - as alice said, happy mum = happy baby. You really do have to find your own way and try not to get too bamboozled with what other people think. Often easier said than done.

Hope everyone else is ok - Lisa, we're all on the donor list here but really thinking of your family.

welcome Stefka. hope you're doing ok and glad the scan went well Floria.

Totally agree that you have to do whatever is right for you on the b/f front. Just to encourage those having no.2 - b/f is possible and sometimes even easier than f/f with your 2nd. I b/f dd1 for 10 mths, and dd2 for 6. There is a 2 yr age gap. Just found second time around that although hideously painful at the beginning, we did manage better and it made dd2 so portable. I didn't need to stop what I was doing with dd1 when dd2 needed a feed. We could do it in park, toddler gym, upstairs, downstairs wherever. That's just my experience and everyone is different, but it wasn't that bad.

Well, I had a busy morning at sports day - then the childminder who looks after ds phoned me at 1.30 to tell me that he's not well ...she dropped him home for me - I gave him calpol, and he's now fine ... I diagnose a severe case of 'wanting to be at home with mammy' ... doesn't help that dh is away on site today! And what have I done with him (ds that is)? Well, he's been watching thunderbirds - and playing at the same time - and I flaked out and slept on the sofa!

Going to see our GP in a bit - I want to go back to work for the last day of term, and I need her to sign me off ... (or is it sign me on again) - also need to see if there's any stronger painkillers she can given me in suppository form - the paracetemol is just not working ...

Just heard the biggest clap of thunder ever - it sounded like it was right outside my door ... glad I was too lazy to attempt to put the washing out now!

I'm just starting in on the baby whisperer - seems really sensible and a nice 'middle ground' between Ms Ford on the one side and the 'on demand' camp on the other. I like her style a lot - very down to earth.

Although i confess there's a bit of me which quite likes Gina Ford just telling me what to do (quite reassuring for a first timer) and she had some useful stuf to say about setting up the nursery etc. I think I'd bescared to meet her in person though...

I'm just planning on reading as much as I can in the next three months! Forewarned is forearmed as they say.

I'm terrified about breast feeding - it sounds really difficult and I'm convinced my enormous t*ts aren't going to perform... don't know why. Actually having dreams/nightmares about it - how daft is that? Desperate to do it though - and hoping my determination will help

DB
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hi all

db, try not to get hung up on it, if you get stressed about it may make it harder

well, finished work, although they rung me this afternoon to say i've taken too many holidays, well sod that, i said, take my wages instead, i'm not going back now! i only get to keep £20 a week of my wages anyway, so i'm dammed if i'm going to stress about going to work, when there's nothing for me to do in the dept they moved me to after the flooding.

anybody else got back ache? its the upper part of my back and its like a burning pain, its quite bad and really slowing me down!

well, i'd better read everything again hadn't i, cos i can't remember what was said!

Winnie ? well done on doing the race for life! you must try to rest now!, hope your dp is feeling a little better

Lisa-I hate headlice, and I hate parents that don?t delouse there kids regularly even more, its so annoying when you spend so long doing your own dc only for them to catch them again the week after, grr

Katsh and FT-thanks for posting on my other thread

Stefka-hi and welcome

DB-very jealous of your weekend away and you really will be fine to breastfeed

MG hope you had a nice bike ride

mrsfish, hope ds is ok and not too poorly

Hi to everyway else, sorry to miss anyone out

oops meant to add, winnie-i hope your ok with your pains, did you ring mw?

Looks like I need to get the baby whisperer book...I liked the tv programmes she did so will probably agree with what she says. I've just been trying to get through a week at a time so far and not allow myself to think of the final outcome incase it doesnt happen...but good news is Dh came home from work tonight and admitted that he hadn't slept at all last night for worrying about putting me through the bl*y amnio in 2 weeks and the possible repercussions....we had quite an illuminating talk...still no decision one way or the other, but good to know that his position isnt as fixed as it was.....wish I hadn't told him that the consultant hadn't found the heart beat or that he thought the baby was in breech (when it just looks like it has got its mums big solid bum!)because DH now hasn't got quite the same faith in him when he says that the risks are low and that DS babies dont grow as big as quickly as mine seems to be doing ...but perhaps we are getting there (hopeful emoticon)

OOOHHH! the friend expecting the whopper baby (10-12lb at the scan 3 weeks ago!) has just gone into labour...She went in at noon to be induced but they had no beds....Dh has just been called to drive them to hospital so it looks like they will have to find her one now!!!!!!! How exciting!!!

thats good news FT, hopefully he'll come round to your way of thinking {{{sending you positive vibes}}}

Fingers crossed he comes round floria!!!

db try not to worry too much about the bf thing. Its difficult but lots of people manage fine - don't be put off by the things we've been chatting about! Its hard at the start then seems to suddenly get much easier.... One thing I would say about Gina - think her routines are not really compatible with feeding on demand which you need to do at least in the beginning for bf to work. But like you say its good to read as much as you can from all different perspectives so you have plenty of ideas to draw on in the beginnning. It will become obvious what kind of approach is going to work for you and clearly babies thrive under lots of very differing approaches!

Can't remember what everyone else has said but big higs to you all! Oh yes - just remembered ejt - hope your ds is OK. Sounds like your diagnosis is spot on!

And good luck to your mate floria! Will look forward to hearing how she gets on!

I have no hope of remembering what everyone has said.

Welcome Stefka.

Did not ring midwife, put did take it easy today. Did a little tidying in my office and a bit of ironing, but sat down with my feet up for most of the day.

nedd to get Avon books put out tomorrow as order is due in on Thursday.

glad you took it easy winnie

just wondering, what do people think if i try using nicotine patches to give up smoking? my gp will not entertain the idea, and seems to think that i will be able to give up when i am not too stressed, but that will be too late for this lo, surely a nicotine patch will be better than me smoking, a lot, at the moment, i feel like i should try, what do you all think?

hi all... havent posted for ages... but couldnt resist putting my 2pence in for designerbaby....

breastfeeding is not difficult at all. You just need to get the hang of it and it is terribly simple. I think some women do get in a panic about it, which ends up with them getting stressed out. This is of course not condusive to successful BF. And until you have your baby in your arms it can seem a staggeringly difficult and alien thing to imagine doing.

Here is honeyapple's quick 10 point plan!
1.Sit down somewhere comfy, but with good back support
2.Hold baby in comfy position, lying across your body.
3.Baby automatically opens mouth to root for breast. (unless it is asleep!)
4.Put breast in babies mouth (all nipple and some areola). You can squeeze your breast into a sort of biscuit shape to make this easier.
5.You will feel milk come, this is 'let down' a tingly sensation.
6.Watch that baby has sucessfully latched on, no gaps between mouth and breast.
7.Baby sucks and swallows, which you will hear.
8.Wait for baby to finish
9.Swap to other breast if baby still wants more, or you feel first breast is empty
10.Burp baby. A blue top lip can indicate a baby needs to burp.

Don't let people put fears in your head. There is absolutley no reason why you cannot bf with big boobs or tiny boobs or wonky boobs or whatever shaped boobs!

What happened to babies before the advent of bottle feeding and formula?

Anyway... hope that was of some interest!

Hi there
I realise this is a bit cheeky but I wondered if any of you had a moment if you could go and have a look at lifebeyondpregnancy.googlepages.com/. Its about an antenatal class with a difference. Hopefully it explains what I am hoping to do and why. I would really appreciate any feedback you would care to give about the idea. Its for a bit of pocket money for me and a way to prevent the kinds of melt down I see when I occassionally do maternity nursing.

Apologies if this is out of line.

Thanks
Halles

PS I recently came across an excellent DVD on breastfeeding that has really helped a few new mums I know manage to get a really good latch. It is called Jack Newman's Visual Guide to Breastfeeding and you can find it on line (with postage about 25 Pounds)