Due in December 07- we're almost halfway there!! NEW THREAD

[Caz10]

Hope this works....! Here's hoping July is the month for

• proper bumps not fat looking tummies
• feeling them move!

That Posh documentary was awful (actually watch the first 10 mins and thought to myself - defo not going waste time on this).

Yes I was so much happier when I gave up BF, as I was in constant pain everytime I done it. Cried for 2 days because I felt so crap about giving it up and there is so much pressure to BF. This time around, got loads of information and contact numbers and really want to give BF another good go.

"there, there..."

aww thanx motherofz
no i cant be sad today as too excited about tomrrows scans hope ito find out all is well and hopefully this horrid fibroid hasnt grown, as that might mean a c-section which after 2 pretty straight forward births petrifies me

i got neg feedback from some people when i did bf.. how long are you going to have him hanging off yer tits, dont you feel like a cow? You need to let the dad have a go at feeding, you relly should express.. some of it has started already about this one I think mums should just be left to get on with what is best for them and baby and not be hassled by others who always think they know best.

mad4girls.. Scan tomorrow how exciting!!

mad4girls... glad you tunred off and i missed CSI Miami with sexy latino men in Brazil for this crap and have no idea why.

Sorry you are feeling emotional too, I do get emotional but tends to go hand in hand with being angry. Completely up and down. I cant imagine my DS being 5 seems so far away.... do you sometimes just look at them and think you were so tiny and needed me to do everything fr you.

RavelAwen - I have seen that flip side aswell. You would think everyone would just be busy feeding and looking after their own child to worry about what anybody else is doing. I am certainly going to try to keep it up for longer this time (well more than my two week record).

grrrr.... fascististas. there even seems to be people who object to you finding our the sex..or not

i know suey ridiculous isnt it...each to their own. i learnt lots of lessons from last time - EVERYTHING is going to be my decision this time, not going to be influenced by anybody.

suey2 - can i just say your advice about the olbas pastilles was brilliant - i've had 2 nights good sleep (waking up just once as opposed to 5 times)

BF really does seem to be the one area where in a way no-one gets is right - in the eyes of others that is. As with everything - we all need to keep up the mantra that what is best is whatever feels right for us and our babies - sod anyone else and thier opinions. OK, some advice from docs etc is valid, but as we've covered already re. the food issues in PG, each week advice is changing.

I was lucky as although I had a crappy time bf DD, after a week a wonderful older MW said, I looked really sore and to express, then my HV (again slightly older - wonder if there is a lesson there) was so supportive over it all - she thought it was great I managed 5 months but never once was disapproving when I mentioned mix feeding - I was due to go back to work afterall! She even commented once that a glass of wine while feeding would be good for stress and pain!!! She was great when DD decided she needed food at 14 weeks (god forbid, before the decreed 16!!) and also reckoned small sips of water on a hot day were fab - jsut like my Mum said - even though current 'guidance' says no - only breast milk and nothing else blah blah blah.
I also had a great support group and BF tutor type person - again, no judgement at all - sounds like some ouf you have had or heard of really harsh people. Just waiting to see what happens this time, but I'm NOT going to beat myself up if things don't work out as well as last time.

Work really is a drag today - jsut want to do baby shopping and sit in Starbucks with a big, big coffee

v glad motherofZ- although they remain disgusting you do get used to the taste eventually!

Am off for lunch in Starbucks right now.... ,mmmmm going to eat strawberyys tho already had a latte this morning and made me feeling abit icky

BF is just one of the competitive-parenting things you first timers will get used to! "A mother's place is in the wrong" should be our motto - if you BF, someone somewhere will probably get into a huff about daring to set foot outside your door, if you bottle then the BF gestapo will jump on you. My DD1 was pretty small as she was prem- I was feeding her some veg puree in a cafe when she was around 6 mths but looked much younger - should have seen the tuts and frowns I got!

And some mums can't resist the comparisons - "isn't she walking yet", "oh, she knows all her colours now", "Tarquin is learing Mandarin you know" etc etc... Why can't women just be nice to each other??!! Like us lot

grr! had a really sh1tty day!

having lots of hassles with dp's family... not about the baby, but just them in general.. putting a dampener on everything and being b1tchy n gossipy... i hate it!

it puts loads of pressure on our relationship and with pregnancy issues and hormones etc we really dont need it!

maybe i'm just being hormonal and seeing things for more than they are, but despite being surrounded by family and friends and having 2 lovely boys and twiglet bopping about in my tum i cant help feeling incredibly alone and out of touch with everyone. fed up of feeling so low when i'm supposed to be at the 'best stage'. i just cant helpt he way i feel, and ive been panicking about everything to do witht his baby too... i shouldnt be like this with my third.

sorry for the rant girls, no doubt i'll be ok tomo, but my fingers just needed to talk you know?

Oh Kerioke, I knwo the IL dilema far to well. It will pass I am sure and I hope it isnt anything too serious. Just run yourself a nice bubble bath and get someone to look after the boys and read a good book, always helps me refocus and calm down and trust me I need to calm down alot of the time.

Sending you a big big hug.

Boooo! Tell us where they live kerioke and we'll go and beat them up

Dull day for me but the sun is out, hooray!

Just want to add that when my friends tell me to calm down and stuff about the ILs and things I have a bloody panic attack, i know what it is like when people just tell you to breath and whatever so sorry if i sound crap

OK, I have a question: if it's bad for newborns to be in carseats for very long isn't surely also bad to put them in slings? Or is it assumed you only carry them in slings for a short while? This has been bugging me

Good question - but i have no answer and am plannign to use a sling for as long as possible as trying to avoid the double buggy thing

mixedmama - me too about avoiding the double buggy - people keep telling me I'm mad but can;t see the point of forking our for just a few months. Thinking of getting a buggy board for dd as well as we will be doing a lot of walking (no car)

LOL housemum at the BF gestapo although feel sorry for any real life Tarquins (are there any??) as that is always the name used to illustrate ridiculous parents

kerioke - sorry you're feeling rubbish today - it's horrible when things other than pg make you feel bad - as if we haven;t got enough to kae us feel bad with our raging hormones!! Lovely bath is a great idea.

mimicakey - I always worried about dd in a sling all the time - she seemed so squished up. Also they say that they sleep all the time in a sling and then can be hard to get them into a routine at night.. did;t know that about car seats either

Re: the sling, it is so nice to have them so close tho.

Skidaddle, my take on the double buggy thing is to see how we go, if i need it when the time comes then i need it, but going to see how we manage without it.

Defo going to get a buggy board, cant see DS staying on it though although he is quite good at holding on to the buggy and he quite likes pushing it so hopefully that will last. Otherwise baby in sling and DS in pushchair for a while.

I think that's a great idea for your ds mixedmama as he is younger than my dd who will be 2,2 when baby no.2 arrives so am hoping she will be a pretty competent walker by then. She started early (oh God do I sound like a competitive parent??!!) and has a lot of practice so here's hoping....

I think when it comes to anything we just have to play it by ear, i dont know how he will react he might get all territorial over his pushchair or something because if i am completely honest he is quite spoilt, first grandchild, child, nephew for everyone involved.

oh I know my dd is spoilt too - it's hard to get out of 'you can't spoil a baby' mode which I was very happy with to 'toddlers need to learn some boundaries' which I'm not so good at. I have lots of spoilt 7-year-olds coming in to do experiments with me at work though, and they've made me realise I need to toughen up a bit!

Your ds is still little though, think it's fine to spoil them when they're little..

"no" and then him giggling hysterically and doing it anyway and then running away.