Due in Sept '07 - part 5 - '.... Half Way to Heaven......?'

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Hope you all don't mind about the new thread. We've been AGONISING over the name

Hey Holly, that's not fair working today. What are you doing?

I've been sitting here trying to balance a hot water bottle on the back of my neck. I've done myself a mischief in the night..... in my sleep I might add .

PS Oops, was I meant to put that ? in the thread title?? Hmmm, maybe it's added a tone of irony? Very clever....

Hiya Hope

I'm a lawyer and I am trying to draft an urgent application. The law rarely waits...It's raining here so it's not too bad and I am going for my first Refloxology session at 5!

Ooh, your neck sounds painful...Bath and hot water bottle sound good. I always manage to injure myself in my sleep too, sometimes I give myself deep scratches and my DH really does think I am odd!

I like the title. x

Holly, that's rubbish for you having to work today.. hope you got it done and dusted. Let us know how your reflexology goes!

You poor thing having to work today!

Love the new thread - just popped in to say HI really!

Take care all xoxo

Love the new thread name!

Holly - shocker you had to work today, hope your reflexology session made up for it

Hopeitwontbebig - is your neck any better now?

Dreading the alarm clock in the morning, love these 3 day weekends!

Hello everyone. great new thread title, I sure hope it is heaven!!!

I haven't been on for a few days, but Poppy's news really shocked me. I hope everyone else is ok, and upcoming scans go well. Still got another week and 2 days until mine.

Holly, sympathies for having to work on a bank holiday, I can join that club too, as I'm on nights this week, and started sunday night! EWWWW! Still, at least I'm not as sick as I was last time I was on nights, and I did feel a slight ripple of schadenfreude when I saw the weather forecast. I was tucked up in bed while it tipped down today!

I had a terrible dream while I was sleeping today. I dreamt I left my baby, while still very young, with my dad for two days (don't know where my mum was) I was so busy I didn't call him. After two days I called him to see how she was (my baby was a girl in this dream) and when my dad answered the phone he was really slurring, like he was drunk or ill. I panicked and ran over there to find him unconcious on the bed with my baby next to him, she hadn't been moved or fed for two days. I'm not sure if she was alive or not because I woke up in a terrible panic. It really shook me up, it was so awful! I won't miss the crazy dreams, even the wierd ones that just make me go "huh?" but some of my nightmares have been just awful.

On the plus side, I've been having much more noticeable kicks in the past few days. I've been feeling little vibrations on and off since week 17 but I've only just realised what I thought were some odd throbs in my abdomen were actually kicks! I just hope my night shifts don't give the little tyke funny ideas about how mummy likes to stay up all night!

I also could have sworn I felt his head the other day. I was lying on my back in bed having a prod and my bump although pretty small and very low down was a bit lopsided. With a bit more feeling around, I worked out I could feel his head on my left side. I guess he's still got room to lie hammock like in there, better enjoy it while he can!

Well, enough rambling! I hope everyone is well xx

Thanks for the sympathy everyone... I totally loved the Reflexology by the way and would totally recommend it to anyone. It was just so relaxing - I did an hour and fell asleep in the mddle! Afterwards they tell you whether any particular part of your body needs particular care or attention and they were spot on.

I have my scan today and I am really nervous about it - I think Poppy's news made me realise that things may not be as straightforward as I previously thought. woke up in the middle of the night and could not get back to sleep..

MrsMar that sounds like such a weird dream! I've been having the kicking throbs as well, it is so strange.Mine kicks me hugely at night. As my DH says, at least we know he's alive and kicking!

love to everyone who has scans today and this week.

Holly sending you MASSIVE good luck vibes for your scan today love.

Your reflexology sounded FAB!

I'm totally with you, mine's tomorrow and I've been having some awful dreams. They're horrible aren't they MrsMar. After having DS1 and then again after DS2 I kept having vivid dreams that I would go to work in the morning and realise at work that I'd left the baby at home alone in the cot. Work was an hour and a half's drive away!! Panic panic.

Well I've woken up with a stiff neck again, balancing that hot water bottle as 'we speak'. I've been having problems with my hips - sacroilaic pain - and I think it's making me sleep funny, so now my hips aren't too bad, it's just my flippin neck.... oh moan mooooooooooan!

MrsMar, it's funny you should say that about feeling the head, because only the other night I was lying in bed feeling my bump and I could feel this really hard lump in there!

Hope all is well with you today, Holly. The news from Poppy left me feeling really sad.

The baby moves a lot now and the boys are obsessed with being able to feel it's (his!) bottom...the joys!

Had a fabulous, long, unbroken night's sleep last night and now I just feel like I could do it all again; I keep hoping for a spurt of energy.

Have to take ds2 for blood tests this afternoon - not looking forward to the application of 'magic' cream process, wrapping limbs in clingfilm and waiting for an hour...

Hello all
Just thought I'd update on our news. We had the scan on Friday and decided not to know the sex, so it will be a SURPRISE for us. Can't seem to find the list to update my details though..

Anyway, there were various mutterings about chromosones and blood flow which were a bit worrying. They asked me twice "have you had any operations on your cervix"? I'm not sure what operations you have on your cervix... but anyway the only thing I could think of was previous birth resulting in stitches etc. She said "ooh yes" so I guess it's all a bit of a mess.

This seems to be affecting blood flow to the placenta and this needs to be monitored. I've been worried all weekend about what a lack of blood to the placenta might mean for the baby. Didn't seem to affect babyDad though as he went out to play footie and then to the pub! Then, next day, made me feel guilty when he asked what was up and - I told him - and he said "oh now I feel worried".

This on top of horrendous Panorama programme which reduced me to tears means I'm not feeling at my strongest.

Take care out there in babyland. jx

Hi bendybus, well done on not finding out the sex! Think I'm going to give in tomorrow! Sorry to hear you've got that worry about your cervix. How are they going to monitor it? Regular scans? Maybe you could start up a thread on the pregnancy page, someone may be able to offer some advice?

I've updated you on the scan page, I've linked it here for you. x

HIWBB - I suffer with my neck and back sometimes and found that using a special shaped pillow (got it from physiotherapist) really helped. Also a heated pad rather than a hot water bottle might help you ? Hope you feel better soon.

Good luck to all having scans at the moment!

bendybus - sorry to hear that the scan was not as straightforward as we all hope it will be. I agree with the suggestion to put a thread out on the pregnancy board, there is bound to be someone who has been through something similar and can offer advice.

Poppy's news is so sad, life is just so unfair sometimes isn't it?

hiwbb - great thread name, shouldn't cause any controversy but I do like the ironic '?' .

My lo is kicking away like mad most parts of the day. He/she often kicks my bladder which is slightly uncomfortable, although I gather being kicked in the ribs is no picnic either (didn't really have this first time as my boys were packed in so tight they didn't have room for donkey kicks ). DH finally felt lo kick on Sunday, although kicking seems to stop whenever DH puts his hand on my bump.

6 days until our scan...... not sure whether to look forward to it or not......

Hello everyone,

What terrible news for Poppy.....it doesn't seem fair that you can get this far and there is still bad news.

Holly - I would love to try reflexology. do you need to find someone who is trained in treating pregnant women? If you don't mind me asking how did you go about finding the person you went to see?

Have just come back from a weekend in Snowdon. Did actually manage to get to the top but as I was puffing my way up the side of the mountain I suddenly thought I hope I am not causing this poor baby oxygen starvation. Anyway I was reassured by a GP friend who was with me as she was saying that your red blood cells multiply when you are pregnant to carry more oxygen so there is plenty to go round. In fact she told me that East Germany used to get their female athletes pregnant so they performed better! So I am now telling my DH that he shouldn't treat me like glass as actually I have the potential to be a top class athlete....well for about the next 3 weeks anyway between MS finishing and getting to big to move!

Feel a bit embarrassed to admit this but have also bitten the bullet and employed an independant mid wife. I ummed and ahhed as it is not easy money to find, but it was my Mum who helped make my mind up as she pointed out my Gran left me some money when she died last year and this is the sort of thing she would have been very happy for me to spend it on. My sister had 2 tough NHS experiences which I won't go into but this is what got me thinking in the first place.

Anyway, should finish my sandwich and do some work. Good luck to all with scans in next few days.

Hello all, just thought I'd post on the new thread - apt title, well done girls!

I'm also feeling a bit down after hearing Poppy's news, really awful, like someone else said - what we all dread really.

Sorry to hear of complications bendybus, hope you can sort it out.

I'm feeling rather tired today - not because of disturbing dreams (though I have heard that is quite common, MrsMar) but was kept awake all night with Carpal tunnel - my hand just going completely numb - think I am going to try a splint on my wrist which dh is looking forward to (to have a good laugh at me).

The good news is that I am also feeling kicking, nice and reassuring - though I do wonder if it's like this now, what's it gonna be like towards the end...?

Good luck with all coming scans, and remember worrying won't make any difference!

Hi all,

I think most of us have shed a tear over Poppys news. Its so bloody unfair. I think starting the new thread was an excellent idea - well done HIWBB for taking the initiative (and I hope your neck gets better soon). I missed all this hoo ha over thread names. Was someone being horrid about us?

Bendybus - I'm sorry to hear things have got more complicated. I'm sure they'll monitor you closely and make sure all is well.

On to happier news - my dh felt the baby kick for the first time last night. He was laying with his head resting slightly on my tummy as he does (he's patient I'll give him that) and was finally rewarded with a couple of nudges. I'm sure I have a little girl in there - she seems to be a Daddys girl already. I'm never quite sure if I'm imagining it but I'm sure I get more movement from the baby in response to his voice.

Wishing HUGE good luck vibes to all those with scans coming up in the next few days. xx

Just back from a disastrous visit to the GP - ds2 (4) quite defiant (and smug ) is his refusal to let her take blood with the teensiest needle I've ever seen. Wasted afternoon picking him up early getting the Emla cream on, binding him with clingfilm on the relevant areas and keeping it on for an hour...dh quite cross as he wants a repeat kidney function test done sooner rather than later and grumpily announced that in hospitals there can't be such failure! He can go to the GP next time. Hmmph.

HannahsAunt, it took 5 people to hold my DS down to get a venflon in his hand. He was 18 months at the time, in hospital. Never underestimate the will of small children!!!

Sorry they didn't manage it though, I hope you have better luck next time. I find DS responds a million times better to different drs - worth a go maybe?

BendyBus, good luck, hope things go well. Hopefully you will get extra scans so lots of opportunity to see baby!

Holly, was working over the bank holiday too - which might also attribute to my rant in a minute!

HIWBB - I'm starting to get a sore back so I know a bit how you feel. Had it with DS too. I hope some of the others advice helps!

I'm having what I think I can call a shite day. I'm feeling really low and teary and while after poppies such sad news, I feel so ungrateful I need to vent too.

I'm just generally knackered. Finding working nearly full time and having ds aged 2 such hard work, and knowing it will only get harder when the new baby gets here is making me feel like a failure TBH. While the past couple of days has been better, just recently work has been really busy. I don't get much in the way of break allowance at the best of times, (an hr for a 12.5 hr day) but I have been missing so many breaks due to workload. I'm off late most shifts just recently and I'm on my feet all day every day. Last week I got my lunch at 5pm.

Then I come home and I seem to be expected to still do the lion's share around here too. DP is excellent at keeping the house tidy but never does any actual room cleaning, or washing. Cooking is a rare treat that last week he refused point blank to do. It would all be fine, but he expects me to keep the house in the way in which he likes it. And TBH I just can't.

This morning I didn't even hear DS get up which is most unlike me. I got downstairs to find the whole lounge covered in hot chocolate powder, which he had helped himself out to from the cupboard. Last week it was shreddies. Naughty step dosen't seem to be working. Couldn't even have a cup of tea or feed the cat this morning as DP forgot to get the milk/food yesterday.

To top it off DS and I have been really clashing today. He just won't listen or do as he is told (totally normal I know) but particularly bad today. I was going to take him swimming but could tell from his mood and my short patience it would just be a disaster. So after he refused to listen to me again we didn't go. He played up on the bus again, refusing to sit on the seat. Of course the helpful bus driver just took off anyway with DS sat in the passageway.

Dp is also doing my head in as he is overweight and awful awful snoring has become an issue. Earplugs don't help. I'm waking up several times a night with him atm. Also, he is working 'flexi time' atm, and takes it as a reason to lay in bed till gone 9, get up late and work till 6/7/8. Today I went shopping and had to transport £50 worth of items home on my own with the buggy. Neighbour was horrified and asked why DP wasn't taking me. If he does manage to go into work earlier, he will just come home and lay on the bed playing games on his mobile for a good hour or so, and refuses to move until he is ready.

Ok so DP does have good points, but right now I don't want to think of those. I am wallowing in self pity when I don't really have any cause. I have a lovely DS, a job I love and a (hopefully) healthy baby on its way. I do however, feel better for typing all that!

Flossalump -

1. you're tired - and who wouldn't be? You've got a full load in life, you're not getting the support you need and you're not getting the sleep you need.
2. you're not a failure, you're a human being. 3)DS is picking up on your tiredness and emotions - you're right not to get yourself into situations with him (e.g. swimming) which will simply make it worse for both.
3. Sleep in different rooms for a night - get some sleep.
4. take your breaks at work - no matter what it takes. Be blind to others.
5. DH's have their good bits and their bad bits. It is up to us to decide what it is worth going into battle on and what we are prepared to put up with so only you can decide if he needs a big dose of whoop-ass, or if that's just how he is, and that's what you signed up for.
6. You're pregnant - some days we are superwoman and can cope with all the slings and arrows and solve world peace. Some days we just need to cry and eat cookies. Adn if we're lucky some days we get to solve world peace and eat cookies. xxx

Sophus, couldn't have put it any better, well said.

Floss, what Sophus said.... and big hugs to you.

Thank you sophus and HIWBB. You are right in all you say. Its one of those times you need several glasses of one, and yet not being able to have it only makes everything seem worse!!

Floss - I think Sophus has put it perfectly and very philosophically (is that a word??)

All I can add is don't be too hard on yourself. We all have shite days and feel tired, teary and crabby. Have a wallow - no guilt should occur. And I realise this may be controversial but surely at our stages of pregnancy a small glass of wine won't hurt. I treat myself once a week or so now (dh kindly volunteers himself to polish off rest of bottle). Its up to you but perhaps you've earned a nice glass of vino in front of the telly once you have your ds settled!

hugs

Hi all,
Scan went really well today. I have to admit I was in a panic after Poppy's news. Everything looking good and baby was very wriggly. It seems amazing they can check for clef palette [excuse spelling] etc. We decided to hold out for the sex and get a surprise. I'm jealous that so many of you are getting kicked - sounds a bit bizarre - I've had a few bubble things but nothing kick like!
Holly29 [scan buddy] hope all went well for you too.
Love to all

Congrats ccpink on your scan results, sorry I didn't wish you luck earlier, very poor..

Amazing you've managed to keep it a surprise, I'm in admiration for all you ladies who can hold out 'til the end.

So pleased for you. x x x