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July 2016 Babies (9) - let the babies commence!

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Ellizardo · 25/05/2016 20:28

Nearly there folks.

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primarynoodle · 08/07/2016 06:31

Can't link... It's set up in postnatal clubs can someone link for me?

Yay beaut!!!!!! Is he/she here yet?? Grin

Liz09 · 08/07/2016 07:02

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/2680544-july-2016 Here's the postnatal group primary set up Smile

Cheery1 · 08/07/2016 07:03

Eek! What a night! Go beaut and indians!

bluebell hope the ram will play his part in bringing that baby along!

Cheery1 · 08/07/2016 07:03

Should we set up a new thread here too....some of us still being prenatal...?

pulpi · 08/07/2016 07:39

Good luck beaut and indians!

beckslovestimmy · 08/07/2016 08:30

Good luck beaut and Indians not long now until you meet your gorgeous little ones!! Sending you good/positive labour vibes!

mascaraisamust · 08/07/2016 08:33

Awaiting news....

Right I'm on the curry tonight, what do you recommend? Also going to scrub the floors today and eat some pineapple. Of course I'll be on my ball! Anything else?! I'd love to have some of your luck Indian and skirt the induction!

MrsRolly · 08/07/2016 08:38

Wow morning everyone!

Good luck beauts and Indians. Hopefully you are both enjoying tiny baby snuggles :)

Bluebell what a story, we had a similar bullock story not so long ago!! Although not sure my DH would be able to wrestle it ha ha

Pulpi re the hand down that is a good idea as tearing is one thing that freaks me, I was cut last time (breach baby) but as that was a million (9) years ago apparently will all be fine..

Julfin I also don't want pethadine, my last labour was fairly quick for a first and I don't want it to affect the baby as I want try and get him to latch ASAP also I think it will send me sky high ha ha

MrsRolly · 08/07/2016 08:39

Agh sorry Pulpi.. I meant dats re lovely discussion tearing!!

beckslovestimmy · 08/07/2016 08:44

Julfin I think my midwife was a bit embarrassed discussing mental health issues. On discharge she said 'how are you feeling? Not a bit mental??' I thought it quite unprofessional and could have been very upsetting if I had suffered mental health issues before. I'm a nurse and although lots of the conversations we have with patients can be very embarrassing I still always try to maintain professionalism and be sensitive.

Dats glad you've got a plan in place for your perineumGrin(not a sentence I thought I'd ever write). I was lucky to not get any tears as I certainly didn't pant and Benjamin shot out!

Elliz hope your discharged today and can enjoy a bit of sun. Very cloudy here this morning.

Blue here's hoping the ram excitement/fear kicks things off for you soon. Very funny story, I bet you DH was pooping his pants!!!

gnat99 · 08/07/2016 08:47

Good luck Beaut and Indians!

So exciting. Beaut I can't believe all your baby was waiting for was his due date - I wonder if your DH will mind sharing his birthday?!

Elliz - love the name! I know an Helene (she is French and has the accents) and a Claudia, and they are lovely, lovely people. Also love the sleepsuit. Hope you are both home soon.

Bluebell, truly wonderful ram story. Let us know if it provokes anything - though it's more likely to be the sweep I suppose.. Thanks for the pantyliner tip - I shall put a reminder in my phone for next week when my sweep is due.

Saw midwife on Wednesday at 40 weeks, but too tired yesterday to post. Baby as engaged as it can be without me actually being in labour, apparently. Not surprised, considering all the pressure and pain in my previous and public bone. Mw said she couldn't feel the head at all, only the shoulders! No sweeps here until 41 weeks so am booked in for that next Wed at community midwife as usual. They also book you in there and then for another sweep at the hospital 3 days later, in case the first one doesn't achieve any results. At which point they automatically give you a date for an induction, in case the second sweep doesn't work either.

So it's just a question of waiting now - back to the birth ball.

Dats, I'm getting quite uncomfortable now, but still holding out! Are you? It's our first wedding anniversary tmrw so I would really love if this baby waited a bit longer to arrive. Thanks for the pushing/panting/tearing tips. Sounds awful. Will try and remember... I 'forgot' to do my perineal massage yesterday. Naughty.

I am actually getting scared about this birth now! Wish I'd listened to those hypno-birthing files my friend sent - the links don't work now and she is away on holiday Shock

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gnat99 · 08/07/2016 08:52
  1. typo alert - meant to say 'pressure in my pelvis', not my previous! Silly phone.

  2. Cheery, yes I think a new antenatal thread would be good! Could just skip to postnatal but would that be weird? Seem to be still lots of us on this side of the new motherhood door.

foobio · 08/07/2016 09:11

Aaah jealous of all the action bluebell, beaut & indians! Sending lots of relaxing productive vibes. Sounds like a few others are preparing for action too!

Moan alert: I had some tightenings after my sweep on Wed and awful backache all the following night, but now nothing :( I'm now convinced that baby is going to ruin DH's plans for Wimbledon on Sunday, not even sure I should be doing anything encouraging now as probably not enough time now for it all to be over in time for him to go!

(Just to be clear he absolutely prioritises the birth over Wimbledon, but we'll both be disappointed if he misses the amazing opportunity!)

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dats · 08/07/2016 09:30

We def need a new antenatal thread, even if it's just me with my legs crossed!

julfin When I did NCT first time around, we were told that the risk of tearing is because things happen too quickly when the head crowns and your perineum doesn't have time to stretch. To try and mitigate this, the advice when you feel the burn of crowning is to muster all your willpower to not push. Midwives will almost certainly tell you this at the time, too. Get someone to be ready with a warm compress like a facecloth and to hold it to your perineum to help, while you control the pushing urge by doing little panting breaths. I didn't discuss this per se with anyone beforehand but sure enough, a midwife was there with a warm cloth so I guess it was policy at Brighton. But as I said, eventhough I knew all the above and realised it at the time, it wasn't enough to stop me pushing. But I think the tip of putting your hand down to feel the head could be a really useful one, so I'm just putting it out there, in case!

Thinking about you, labouring mamas!

foobio · 08/07/2016 09:37

New antenatal thread here... July 2016 (10)

tams13 · 08/07/2016 09:49

bluebell I love your ram story! Hope that and the sweep combine forces to get the baby moving. Also love your dh's plan. Don't think mine would know what to do. I'd probably have sorted the ram out. Wink

beaut and indians amazing news! Hope you keep your lovely room and get in the pool soon beaut. Also assuming that radio silence from indians is a good sign. More babies soon please!

elliz hope the wind dies down soon. Sounds horrible, especially when you'll already be sore from the surgery.

dats thanks for sharing your perineum story. I'm conveniently not thinking too hard about tearing at the moment (although obviously it will be nice not to). I'm convinced I'm going to tear anyway because sex is sometimes a bit painful/awkward (it feels very tight "down there" - sorry julfin). Can't really reach to do any meaningful massage either. How on earth are you supposed to get both hands that far down with a massive belly in the way!?! Hope you managed a bit of sleep though after the indigestiony night.

julfin no experience as this is my first but I've read in a few places and been told by midwives/NCT that although an epidural doesn't increase or decrease the risk of a tear, it does increase the likelihood of an assisted birth (so could make an episiotomy more likely). That said, plenty of people seem to have an epidural and no assisted birth too.

primary bad days with the bed-pooplosion. Guessing you won't be doing that again! Great idea about the postnatal thread. Do you mind if some of us who are lagging behind join in too? I don't want to miss out on the tip that will make this baby a little angel when it arrives!

cheery good idea about a new antenatal thread too. I'll try to set one up if I can work out how.

mascara good luck getting things moving. Walking made me feel different the other day so that could be worth a try. Still no baby here either though. I tried the Sod's law approach yesterday and wore the knickers I wore on our wedding day. Fortunately/unfortunately they ended the day without having been soaked by waters.

foobio sounds like a bit of a dilemma. Know what you mean about avoiding certain days though. Hopefully your dh will make it to Wimbledon and back just before things kick off (ideal world maybe?)! I'm thinking the same about next Tuesday. My sister is graduating and I'm really upset I can't be there. Apparently they stream it online though so don't want anything to happen when I'm watching that!

tams13 · 08/07/2016 09:50

foobio thanks for setting up the new thread. Took way too long writing the essay above!

Bluebell20 · 08/07/2016 09:53

Indians - great news on the contractions; hoping to hear baby news from you soon!

Beaut I can't believe your little on is (probably!!!!) going to come on your husband's birthday! That is so ace and very, very special! Thinking of you!

Elliz it was so Withnail & I, only pregnant and boozeless. God I love that film. I may treat myself to watching it later tonight - that will cheer me up! Sorry you're in so much pain :( I've got to say, when I had trapped wind the other night I was really hoping I was right and that it wasn't contractions because I didn't think I would be able to manage that kind of pain getting more intense.

dats actually, that was the most helpful thing I've read about tearing / stitches my whole pregnancy, so thank you very much for sharing. Also, OH GOD, cows. I am not good with cows. Almost jumped in a rhyne (a kind of drainage ditch) once because I felt a group of heifers were getting a bit too interested - DH had to hold me back to stop me! Really I shouldn't be allowed to live in the countryside.

Cheery yeah I would like a new thread on here... I will go and set one up when I've done this if nobody already has. I feel far too superstitious to go onto a postnatal thread before my boy is actually here safe and well.

mascara sex and long walks are the only things my midwives have recommended. When was your due date?

MrsRolly eeks, bullocks are v scary!

becks yeah apparently DH was absolutely crapping himself - he did a very good job of staying calm on the outside though because I had no idea! He told me this morning that that's only the third time in his life he's ever been sketched out by an animal - and he's around animals a LOT. He looked up how to deal with rams this morning - apparently the best way to deal with them is to not get into a field with one, hahaha! But he was very pleased that his plan of wrestling the ram onto its back / grabbing it by its horns and doing a judo flip was exactly what was recommended! He said he was thankful it didn't come to that though, as the ram was pretty bloody big. All I can say is, it's a good job that women get pregnant and not men, because if I'd had to protect DH I'd have been shit!

gnat great news on the baby's engagement (is that the right term? sounds a bit like I am suggesting you are betrothing it before birth, fairy-tale style!). Mine is still only halfway there, which is frankly dispiriting, although the midwife told me she had her finger on his head during the sweep yesterday so it can't be that big of a distance left to go, surely? Have a lovely anniversary day today.

foobio I hope baby stays in till Monday for you, then!

I'm feeling pretty down in the dumps this morning. Despite having what I'm sure was a bloody show yesterday a couple of times (jelly-like, dark red and stringy?) there's been nothing else, other than what I think are Braxton Hicks (which I thought until yesterday were just the baby stretching - I've been having them for weeks without realising).

In the meantime, Sunday and induction ticks ever-closer, and I have realised that I am going to have to let go of my idea of what I would like my labour to be like. Unfortunately, I had let myself get really attached to the idea of a water birth, and being on the midwife-led unit. I knew I might have to have a c-section in the end because I'm fairly small and there's a chance that baby might get stuck, but I was okay with that.

What I didn't want - and what it now looks like I'm going to get - was starting off my labour in a medical environment, on a ward, without the privacy of being at home, without feeling like I am in control, and without the opportunity to labour in water. I didn't want any injected pain relief and according to the leaflet I was given yesterday, induction comes with an increased likelihood of needing an epidural.

I am absolutely gutted and feeling very tearful about it all. I had so much hoped that something would happen overnight after the sweep, and nothing has. I'm ten days overdue now and the baby just keeps getting bigger, which obviously is great that he's still growing so well but I can't help thinking it's going to make everything harder. This is likely to be the only time that I am ever pregnant because DH has strong feelings about adopting as well as having a biological child, and I so badly wanted the birth to be as natural as possible and now it looks like I won't experience that.

Anyway. I know that the important thing is that my baby gets here safe and well, and hopefully I won't care about any of this once he is here, but at the moment I can't stop crying and I feel like my body is just not capable of going into labour :(

dats · 08/07/2016 09:56

Oh and pethidine: it doesn't necessarily relieve pain, just spaces you out but it does cross the placenta and can affect your baby. So it's not something I feel the need to try when other things are available.

gnat still not ready!! I have painting to do today! So despite an appalling night of hardly any sleep and dreadful indigestion, I'm still holding out! I bet I'll end up having to be effing induced, just wait!!! What are you doing for your anniversary? I chuckled at your request to Bluebell to let us know if the ram had any effect, as perhaps we would all then be searching the local environs, seeking the same opportunity Grin. Mind you, the lengths that some folk do go to promote labour, nothing would surprise me!

Beaut I was also thinking about how your love of routine brilliantly extends to getting your babies to actually show up on time - awesome!

On the routine thing: I love a routine. I am a complete control freak about some things and I think that is a lot to do with being protective over my mental health which isn't always great. Some thoughts, based on experience so far (mine and others):
Sometimes the trying of a routine is important just for the distraction value, so if it doesn't work, you can move onto a different one, knowing you're a couple of weeks down the line to things getting easier (which they will do, even if it never seems like it).

Some babies appear to think routines are for losers. I didn't used to subscribe to this but a friend who has had awful probs with a refluxy, lactose intolerant baby has changed my mind a bit. Perhaps it's more that some babies are easier to 'routine' than others.

I found the EASY routine worked for us when we started out (Eat, Activity, Sleep, You-time). It's a routine, not a schedule - so you can go at your own pace. And the Y took flippin' months to achieve because DD would only ever nap for 20-30mins at a time until she was about 8 months.

Agree with Beaut that there's no point until baby is old enough. I bf on demand and that was every 1.5-2hrs for weeks before I could stretch it out. I think 3h between feeds would work ok, but it's completely down to you and your baby.

You don't have to go down the routine route - it's a really personal thing. Another NCT friend paid no heed to a nap schedule and went completely with the flow and her DS didn't end up with a particularly diff natural routine to any of ours.

There's no right or wrong way, you know yourself and your baby best and tell anyone who interferes to stick it. Very Firmly.

Naps: best thing we did was have a video monitor. DP is a total geek and rigged up a Raspberry Pi with a camera on. Other technology is available!!! It meant that when we'd got to the cot-nap stage, if she was wailing, you could determine at what stage her wailing was at and if you needed to intervene or let her get on with it. In my top five essential bits of kit!

Ok I'll shut up now - I'm finding this useful to remind myself and perhaps keep the fear of impending labour and having TWO CHILDREN at bay..! Shock

Now I want to hit post and see some babies have arrived...
dats, 38+5

mascaraisamust · 08/07/2016 10:08

Bluebell I'm not overdue, I'm just trying to beat the induction date as like you I had an all natural birth in my head and as the induction day looms closer I'm slowly admitting defeat that it'll happen that way. 4 days for something to happen, I'll be 39+1 so doubtful I'll go into natural labour! I don't see the midwife until 39 weeks, couldn't fit me in at 38, so I have no idea how engaged i am but the consultant said all was pretty much a no go last week! Anything can happen in a week...right??! Confused

dats · 08/07/2016 10:14

Bluebell massive cuddle, my lovely. I know you know all of this, but down the line none of this will matter. It really won't. How your beautiful boy arrives will become inconsequential very, very quickly - it's just now it seems such a huge, insurmountable thing. All you can do at the moment is relish your gorgeous bump form - and I speak with authority having seen it! - and distract as best you can while you see what happens. You well know that knitting haz the powerz! Your body has already done such an amazing thing - the most amazing bit of it, short of his arrival - and that's to be celebrated.

In case this all sounds trite, I have my own set of irrational feelings that I'm dealing with, so I know is its not a case of pulling your socks up (like you could reach to even put them on in the first place Wink) in that this will almost certainly be my last pregnancy and I am scared I'll forget it, scared that maybe I don't want it to end for that reason or because I won't cope with two babies, or I'll have PND...scared that I'm projecting all this leg crossing as kitchen procrastination when really it's not about that.

But equally, I also know that the anticipation of something is rarely an accurate depiction of what will eventually take place. And that when you're in the throes of whatever it is, you just deal - you have no choice and you focus on the getting through, not the fact it wasn't what you wanted to originally get through. And crucially - there's nothing you can do, so I try to see that as liberating rather than unempowering. I also remember from earlier conversations on here that you had have health anxiety issues in the past but you seem to have managed amazingly well with stuff you've faced along the way. That's not necessarily relevant to this, but it occurred to me yesterday.

And finally Trevor McDonald : you faced down a ram, while heavily preg and wearing flip flops. You can do anything Grin xx

Cheery1 · 08/07/2016 10:22

See you on the new thread ladies x

foobio · 08/07/2016 10:50

New thread

BeauticianNotMagician81 · 08/07/2016 11:18

Our beautiful Baby boy born in the water at 9.55am. Will post more later. Very sore and tired as no sleep.

julfin · 08/07/2016 11:35

Congratulations Beaut! Fab news xx

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