We've had birthday 'twins' and there'll be real twins come the summer!...mini-eggs and GTTs abound on the JSgrads' 45th fred!

[5hell]

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 45th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 44th grads thread is HERE

The thread we have graduated from is HERE in its 58th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread HERE
for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

HERE is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates.

Oh and disco for you that must have been scary. Hope DD recovers soon.

honey I doubt I will make meet-up. I have birthing class with DP until 1130 very far from Central London and I don't anticipate being in any better shape by then. I described how I feel to my doctor today as "like a wagon going too fast down a hill with parts flying off everywhere" this was the at the apex of my self pity after discovering I have popped the button that does up my fucking massive overcoat.

Oh merm sending you a hug! Try to stay calm like you are and fingers crossed all is well. With dd we had a funny result which indictated possibility of anencephaly and spinabifida .. False alarm thankfully and hopefully this is too xx

Bless you sky, the last weeks are so hard, even without everything that's going on. Don't be so hard on yourself, your dd will be absolutely fine and it's only temporary. It'll all be worth it, try not to forget that. Big hugs lovely lady.

Hope you're relaxing now carrot, just done a fuck load of ironing and my back is shot to bits now grrr.

Thanks for well wishes, wasn't a very nice few days but it could've been a lot worse so I'm counting our blessings. One bonus is the extra cuddles we've been getting, could actually eat her.

7 weeks of work left and I can't flipping wait, I'm so tired already!

Sorry about your scary news Mermaid, gx that the consultant can shed more light and it's not something serious.

It seems like so many of you are getting so close now! So exciting. I'm 10+3 now, still feeling like shit and now I have a cough/cold on top, so today has been pretty miserable. Might have to go and get some anti-emetics tomorrow.

Oh Mer glad the miroid came home early for you, for him! Good luck for your appointment and tests X

sky sorry you've had a shit few days, but you're def not selfish! Hope things pick up soon.

Glad things are ok now disco , that must have been horrid!

Glad you are feeling better pee - when is your next scan? Are you going to find out?

Thanks for the well wishes everyone! lil I thought it was going to be a boy. Mostly because we are struggling with boys names tho!

Went to visit the game today and had a shitter of a day. DM has bought us fuck loads more baby things, like a frustrating amount. Tried to talk to her about the fact we want to pick out some things and buy stuff, it didn't go well... Ended up with an argument and me sitting in my car sobbing! I know she is trying to be helpful, but dp and I have different taste to her (she's bought lots of beige-y neutral stuff, we like bright things) and she's gotten so many things we probably won't need to get anything I actually don't want to keep everything she's got so that we can get things we actually want, but then feel guilty she has wasted her money.
I think she has taken the hint (after being asked nicely to not but anything else at least until we have unpacked the friking house and worked out what we already have ) but I wish she would just listen instead of it turning into this big argument
It's such a small thing compared to what some of you guys are going through right now, sorry for whinging on!

Oh mermaid what a worry. I hope you can get some good advice to help put your mind at ease. Congrats on having such a smart miroid

sky don't let the bastard hormones get you down. You know that these few weeks (because that's all it is in reality) won't effect your relationship with DD. You and she are strong little eggs who love one another.

Poor sock. Hopefully some meds will help. Stay strong, it really *does^ get better

Woop honey for 39 weeks! I can hardly believe it! Are you in labour yet?

Kate my DM was very similar during my first pregnancy, and it made me cross too. I had friends who felt I should just let her crack on and save myself the mo ey, but it felt as if she was encroaching on my own excitement. TBH I've continued to feel like that ever since he was born - it sometimes seems as if she's competing with me .

They keep wittering on about how they 'ought to get a car seat for him for their own car' - when he's been out with them in their car about 3 times since he was born! I'm projecting my own issues I'm sure, but I think they're fucking bonkers

Oh my MW appt was totally fine, just so quick. I don't really like my MW. She's professional, but not personable at all.

Baby doing well and still high. HB obscured by the cord apparently, but it was kicking and squirming at the Doppler so not worried.

Kate yanbu, I would be annoyed and telling her to back off too. Decide what u want to keep of what she's bought then give her the rest back and tell her you don't need it or sell it and buy what u do want!

merm try not to imagine the worst until you have a clear answer. And keep in mind that if they had been able to do nt measurements you may not be in this position at all. It's an imperfect system because of the very nature of pregnancy. Gx for you all is OK.

Thurs that would annoy me in a mw too. Mine is lovely, just always running late!

honey wow 39weeks! Exciting!

sky sending a gentle hooya. DD won't remember these few weeks in a month or years time. You are not selfish and your DD may well be loving the extra TV time! Make it a game and tell her she has to watch lots of things to try and find some the baby might like! Is it worth speaking to another mw about the stillbirth/anxiety. It's shit that they can mishandle ur care so badly then leave u feeling so bad.

Another room completely decorated now! Spare room almost empty to turn into a nursery! Soon be time to buy a cot! Baby must be excited, its currently going mental in the bottom of my pelvis! Bonkers that it's always so low that I feel it. Don't know how it finds the room down there!

No labour yet. I did get about ten minutes of vague "period pains" earlier... Well, I think so, I barely noticed. If a mild ache in your uterus is what normal people feel when on their period? Who knows?!

Probably absolutely nothing though. Oh wells. Baby pushing against me again. I am not convinced it knows which way is down.

gosh and for everyone, so sorry for those going through the mill at the moment, especially merm, disco and sky

well done on the diy lil you are putting me to shame! hope you're enjoying feeling movements as much as i do :)

kate that would be rather annoying - I haven't had that problem from parents or ILs but a fired gave us SO MUCH STUFF we also could probably not buy any clothes/blankets/toys, but at least it's all second hand, so if i do want some new stuff it doesn't feel too wasteful.

I am having epi-no dilemmas too fruit - can't decide if it's too much ££ for uncertain results - being v indecisive!

NCT breastfeeding class last night - different tutor who was nowhere near as organised/coherent/good as our normal one, but on the plus side DH and I won the bf quiz (box of maltase's for us!)

I love it 5hell, wish it would do it all the time ATM! Though it's not doing its usual morning dance in there ATM so now I'm prodding it trying to make it move! Poor bean!
I'm definitely planning to get an epi-no. I'm sold on the name, it was clearly named so that people like me who are petrified of an epidural would buy it!

Sorry disco I think I missed u in my post last not. Glad DDS ailments are not so major as first thought and yay for the extra cuddle time!

i thought it was episiotomy-no? but either works tbh :)

It probably...but my focus is definitely the epidural! They can cut what they want! Lol

Was so sorry to hear about the phone call you got Mermaid. If you need to vent about anything you can, I'm sure your head must be swimming with different scenarios. I hope your appointment brings some clarity and just because it's a higher risk doesn't mean there will be a problem. Still utterly stressful and scary to need more tests though. Do you have any distractions you can do over the next couple of weeks to take your mind somewhere else?

Glad you DD is feeling better Disco, how scary. And *Sky –hope you are feeling more positive and less hungry today

Oh dear Kate –we haven't had that yet but no doubt it's going to begin creeping in. I don't think there is any harm in telling her you don't want it –she's being over bearing buying it for you without asking what you want! A bit like she wants to be the parent still not letting you guys make your own decisions. Of course telling somebody who thinks they are being helpful that they aren't is like shooting a puppy –that's a tough one!

In the run up to our wedding my DM started to 'take charge' of things I didn't want her to –buying table decorations and such like. It all came to a head over some battery operated tealights. I just exploded and stamped my feet like a proper brat saying I wanted proper candles with an actual flame. So I looked like a twat but it was a culmination of frustration over lots of little kind but misinformed purchases.

My MIL has kindly said she'd buy us nursery furniture as she did for my SIL. SIL said she came home one day to find the nursery stuff delivered and set up ... she'd had her eye on another furniture set and didn't have the heart to say she didn't like the one her mum had bought so much. AWKWARD and also very kind and money saving, but also annoying.

Bump question ... is it normal to wake up and everything to feel like it's all on the right hand side? Not sure if it's constipation or the baby!! Woke up in the night on my right hand side (I know I need to start sleeping on the left) and my tummy was hard and sore, it's OK this morning just feels firm on the right side!

Absolutely normal pee - my baby has been stretched down the right hand side of my bump for as long as I could discern it I reckon.
Also - you don't need to sleep on your left. No one can control how they arrange themselves when they're asleep, and as you get more pregnant
A) the sleep is the most important thing - you'll need it.
B) you won't sleep for that long in a single stretch for being in your right hand side to be an issue!

DH & I managed a sneaky doing of the deed last night. I think I deserve a medal for it at 36+4

Pee YES - only last night it felt as though all my innards were squashed to one side. at your real-flame-candle meltdown.

Kate I'd ask your mum to back off if you're not happy with her buying stuff. I have to say though, the sheer cost of the stuff we are going to have to buy is rising day by day. I would absolutely love it if parent/IL offered to buy some bits and pieces. Mum mentioned some money but I'm going to have to make further enquiries (HOWMUCH? WHEN? GIVE!)

Hope you're feeling more positive today Sky. Devo'd we're going to miss you at the meet up next week.

Mer how are you doing?

I'm also undecided on the epi-no. Whilst I believe there is NO WAY I won't tear or need an episiotomy if I have a vaginal delivery, it might be a confidence boost going into labour knowing that my vag can stretch to accommodate more than a penis. At the moment that's unbelievable, precious little flower that my vag is.

Hi-five on being the quiz champs 5hell!

Shame your midwife is cold Thurs. Mine is lovely though PERMA late. Even when I have first appointment of the day, she's late! She's super friendly though. I always have to fight back a huge gurgle of laughter when I see her because she always greets me with "FEATHERED! Tell me - how are you IN YOURSELF?" with a huge head tilt and expressive eyes that would put Princess Di to shame

Couldn't sleep for ages last night worrying about getting dopeyhole again at my midwife appointment today. It's at 12 so I'm up and sitting at home like a plonker for hours before it too because I can't sleep past 8:30 pretty much no matter what either and I don't even have my work laptop with me to do some work. I have questions that I really do want answered today, and I do not want to be screwed over with appointments again.

Thanks everyone, I was feeling a bit like a brat yesterday, pee there was no foot stamping, but certainly a tantrum and lots of tears!

feathered I know we're really lucky in a way, which makes it tricky, but the stuff she is buying is stuff we do t want / need yet- mainly clothes, but also random stuff like bowls and spoons and hairbrushes?! The thing is, we would be so greatful for the help if she asked what we wanted - she bought is some mio solos (I asked her to pop to aldi when they had their baby event- trying to direct her excitement!) which is great! But all the clothes... Not so much. If she asked I'd be pointing her in the direction of Argos vouches to put towards a breast pump etc. So, yes trying to be helpful but a bit misguided!
Eek sorry for ranting even more!!

pee yes, I can sometimes feel where he is because my bump is a big hard lump on one side! It's wierd but lovely isn't it?

Gx for your appointment today mer I hope you will be able to get some reassurance from it xx

Are random bump pains normal?!

Oh! I can't remember who asked, but YES! The Internet man came back I was sooo happy to see him I probably came across as very odd...

Ah that's a relief I don't just have a big poo on my right side!! I prodded my tummy last night and got an 'EY! That's my head/foot/bum' definite bounce back!! Defo not a fart! Hooray! I can recognise my baby from bowel movements now (well I have once!) :)

God, just realised the tea light story make me sound like an ungrateful nutter, but I suppose the moral of the story is to say early on that while you are happy for the support, you'd like a joint shopping trip! ;)

Ha ha Feathered! I'm picturing Princess Di in a midwife uniform sat on your sofa!

I like the sound of Epi-NO NO NO NOOOOOO! Just to ease my fear of something horrific happening down there, it prob still will but like you said Feathered the thought I'd have done something to prepare the foof-gina would make me worry less.

Still pregnant. I need to pop to Dunelm to get some bean bag beans. Must finish craft projects before baby arrives!

I see what you mean Shell. If it doesn't work it's a lot of money. However if it does work, I would pay 10 times that amount for an intact foof! If only it came with a money back guarantee. Send in a picture of your torn and tattered vag for a full refund!
Are you still doing acupuncture Lil? My doc wants to squeeze in a couple of sessions in the last two weeks. He is keen to point out that it's only anecdotal but he reckons pre- labour acupuncture massively reduces the likelihood of an epidural.

for shagging Thurs. My DH seems to have gone off the idea completely. I'll be taking over Pretzel's born- again- virgin crown at this rate .
Think positive Honey, baby knows what to do!
How annoying Kate, does she at least give you the receipts so you can take it back and swap it? I can totally see how it would be irritating to have her choosing everything. Same with mums who try to take over at weddings, I just want to shake them and say "You've had your turn!"
I actually have the opposite problem with my mum. She did loads to help my older sister with her wedding then when it came to mine she promised to help and just didn't get around to it so I had to take over her jobs. Now I would have liked her to help me make lists of things I need for the baby, narrow down options, etc but she just wasn't interested. It's like she will do this stuff once (for my sister) then won't bother again. Meanwhile I have to listen to a fucking monologue about how wonderful and amazing my sister is every time I speak to my mum. Can totally relate to the foot stamping Pee, I think I'm nearly at breaking point

That's massively irritating Fruit. Does your sister have any children? I'd be fuming! How do parents not get that you treat offspring like for like, regardless of age? Hurumph!My Mum's great at treating us equally, but DH's family are the worst for it....just because he's the oldest of the siblings (and the most successful - through his own hard work/bone breaking hours) he gets no 'special' treatment/treats in the way the others do. Makes my blood boil.

Thinking on it, MIL HAS in fact asked if we would like her to get anything for the baby. DH suggested the car seat would be an awesome gift. She said she'd like to get a moses basket instead. We don't want a moses basket. We're not going to use one. MIL pretended not to hear. Sigh Going to send her the link to the sleepyhead and keep my fingers crossed.

Fruit - I'd also pay £100000000000000000000000 if it insured my foof came out of labour in one piece.

The last time I had sex (wednesday last week) it gave me cystitis. I have no intention of getting back on the sex wagon until the memory of sitting in a lukewarm bath in a dark hotel room, peeing myself, has been completely erased.

Ouch Feathered, that sounds very painful.
Yes DSis has 2 perfect children and is the Mary Poppins of motherhood according to DM. It's extra annoying because DM thinks she treats us the same but she really doesn't.
Shops should really have a DM/ MIL amnesty, where you can take back any unwanted gifts and exchange them. I'm with you on not seeing the point of a Moses basket.