Due March 2007 - Heading for the third trimester

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Thought I'd start a new thread as the other one's about to run out.

Hey noodle, my dh was an electronic engineer. He was made redundant twice, second time coincided with the arrival of our dd. So it was a lovely time for us. Dh had enough of electronics sector by then though, so he used the money he got to get his first little restaurant and that's his life now. He loves being his own boss.

Hello everyone

Jay so sorry you are having a crap time. I hope you're not too stressed out. Things always seem to happen in groups don't they. Maybe your time away will be a little better than you anticipate.

Rosy I hate all this bmi stuff. Ity's so silly imo. If you are healthy then you are healthy, surely. When I went for my first midwife appointment this time they weighed me and that has never happened before. It is obviously another silly government directive . The midwife then got out a chart thing and pronounced that my bmi was too low. Now, I'm naturally quite small but no way am I too small amyone who bothered to look properly would see that. According to these charts my dp's is too high which is also an absolute nonsense too. Take no notice of them that's what I say.

I'm very of those going on hols. Enjoy yourselves and have a glass for me

I booked a birthing pool today. Splashed out on an all singing and dancing version. It is a luxury, but I figure that this is the last baby and I've always wanted to have one in water. I feel better about the birth already.
I'm getting quite attached to my little chap and always think of him as Ronnie so I really think that's what he'll be!
22+2 boy

Wow, Rosy, thats fantastic! Wish my dh could do something like that! Can't see it though. My ideal would be for us both to go up to the highlands...where dh is from and open a B&B. His cousin did it and they have a fantasic life now. Maybe sometime in the future when we're a bit more stable in general. I think electronics is pretty much a mugs game to be in these days, know if dh gets another job quickly we'll just be facing the same probalems a few weeks or months down the line...

hi everyone, hope you're all doin well.. it's a miserable morning here in somerset, raining like mad, and i've got a chest infection which reluctantly i'm taking penicillin for because it just won't shift! i've been reassured it's fine but you do worry don't you?..

leogaela - (have i spelt that right ) thanx for your post about the c-section and VBAC thing and many congrats on your twins!! you must be thrilled and terrified i'm guessing? i think the only thing for us to do is to get our minds clear on what we would ideally like to happen but not get too horribly disappointed if the opposite ends up being the case. birth is very unpredictable isn't it.

on that note i've got an appointment with the consultant on monday to discuss what i would like to happen at the birth. on my list of questions is
-how to avoid continuous monitoring/do they have a walking monitor
-low placenta and the implications of this if it stays low at 34 weeks
-having the doula at the birth and maybe not my partner
-how to still have a mobile birth even in the hospital
any of the more experienced mums amongst you got any suggestions about VBAC questions that might be good to ask??

kitty - the waterbirth idea sounds great! hope that has cheered you up a bit. i was going to have a waterbirth with dd before it all went wrong.. maybe if i ever have a third child

my LO is kicking loads now and moving around a lot specially at night, i'm finding it hard to get to sleep now, partly just thru worry and partly thru the baby.. and then dd wakes up with 'bad dreams'.. going to invest in a good pregnancy cushion thing, i never had one last time but this time, i want one of the big ones!

i had an email from dp which was a bit more positive so that cheered me up. am really wary about asking anything of him.. i really want to tell him that i would like to have him at the birth because i really would, but on the other hand, really don't want to ask him in case he says no straight out and i get upset.. also, i've got my pride.. maybe 4 now i'll just talk about the doula.. i miss him so much, it's so hard doing it all alone because i find it's almost worst when you have happy things happen and nobody to share them with.. i mean your friends are excited and all that but it's not the same is it?

ho hum... i'm off to eat lots of nice food that should cheer me up

xx

Rainbowgirl, well that's more positive than it was eh? Little steps can lead to big changes

As far as the vbac is concerned you seem to have alot of points covered. The only things off the top of my head is to discuss are no time restrictions or a least not silly ones and that you will have a senior/ experineced midwife delivering you who will not be panicked and make any panicked decisions. If the MW is clam you are more likely to be too. Remember that you can discuss all your wishes with your doula so that when the time comes she will be your voice and will be bale to fend of any unwanted attentions from the medics.

meant if your MW is calm not some sort of sea mollusc

lol at mollusc midwife kitty

Rosy: please don't worry about your weight gain. Where did you read they only recommend a 21 pound weight gain for pregnancy? It depends on your start-weight, and tbh most of it appears to be beyond our control.

I started off with a BMI of 22.5, and I've put on 2st 5lbs (33lbs) so far. I just can't worry about it. (I only know because they weighed me at my last scan). If I eat any less, I throw up. I'm only having chocolate/cake about twice a week, and everything else is now really good, healthy food.

All my doctor friends say the BMI thing is widely ignored by the medical profession nowadays anyway, so I'm surprised you're all getting hassled.

I used to be a little overweight - by about a stone. I remember asking a nurse if she thought I needed to lose weight for my health. She looked me up and down and said 'you could definitely do with shedding a few pounds'. The woman must have been a good five stone overweight herself - bloody cheek.

Adding to our cheque crisis (got to wait until at least next Tuesday for any news on that) our builders have now told us that they can't start until the middle of Feb. Obviously that isn't going to happen. Thought about trying to find another firm, but have now decided to postpone the work until June. That way baby will be four months old (so pre-weaning) and we can stay with my Mum. I actually feel hugely relieved that it isn't going to happen while I'm stil pregnant.

Dolly: I texted you today. Sorry I haven't been in touch! And so sorry to hear about DH's redundancy. I did see it was happening and wondered about you...

Rainbow: sorry you're poorly. If the GP has prescribed antibiotics I'm sure they'll be fine

EDD 3/3
24+5
Boy (Jonny)

Jay, we crossed posts this morning. Sorry to hear about your problems. Glad to hear that you grandad is doing ok though.

Kitty, I really hope your birth goes to plan, I am that you will be having a water birth, although i don't think I will be prepared to have 6 children for my turn at it!

As for the BMI, I get weighed at every appointment here but I have no idea what the point of it is. I think that with pregnancy your body just dictates how much you gain and there is nothing you can do about it. If you are healthy and being denied the birht you want because someone thinks your bmi is too high sounds ridiculous to me.

Rainbowgirl - thanks! It was a real shock finding out i was having twins but I've got used to the idea now and been through loads of stress and worry. I know that we just have to be as prepared as possible and go with the flow. At the moment I am really focused on not getting too tired and staying as healthy as possible to give the babies the best chance of a good start in life.
Agree about knowing what you want from the birth but accepting if it doesn't work out the way you want it. With twins if I can have a vb I have to accept that it will not be very natural, I will have to be monitored all the time, will probably have no privacy, have been told I will have to give birth wiht feet in stirrups, someone will have to hold baby 2 when the first is born to make sure it doesn't turn.... however, i'm prepared to put myself through this.
Hope you are feeling better.

Hi leogaela!

Are you noticing much of a size-difference between this and your first pregnancy? I'm a bit of you having twins. I know it's more complicated (and I can understand your concerns about the birth), but twins are so adorable.

Jay: sorry - forgot to say hello earlier (it's so hard to keep up on this thread isn't it?). Sorry you're having such a rough time: hope things start to settle soon.

Just told my Mum how much weight I've put on and she said "God! I only put two stone on in my whole pregnancy both times!"

Feel shit now.

Boo, I've compared my belly with photos when pg with ds and my belly is about the size it was with ds at 30+ weeks! I keep thinking about posting a picture somewhere.
I wouldn't even bother weighing yourself again if its upsetting you. So long as you and the baby are healthy who cares! ...and don't forget mothers (except us !) always say stupid things that make you feel crap!

Thanks leogaela! I feel better now you've said that

boo i put on about 4 stone when i was pregnant with dd! i'm not putting on so much weight this time but it's just because i'm not eating so well for various reasons. i get worried because of THAT now, wish i could put on a bit more weight now! i never get weighed at appointments here. really it is the last thing you should worry about unless you are seriously HUGE in which case it can sometimes cause a problem but not usually even then. you've just been eating a lot because you have been so sick. what do people expect you to do starve yourself? seriously don't worry about it. i eat chocolate or cake most days if i can get my hands on it! xx

leogaela do you know if the twins are boys or girls? are they identical? i feel too though i would NOT want to be having twins in my current circumstances, they run in my dp's family so i think i got off lightly! tbh i don't know how i am going to cope with one newborn plus 4 year old if dp doesn't make reappearance...

Rainbowgirl, i think your 4 year old will love helping you after the baby is born. Is she excited about it or is it too early to tell her? sorry to hear that your dp may not be around .
The twins are ID but at the moment i don't want to know if they are boys or girls.

yes she has known since about 14 weeks.. she is very excited and supportive which is nice but i still worry that she will feel left out and jealous, we will see how it works out i guess. in the long term obviously having a brother will be wonderful for her and i'm proud i can give her that. but in the short term i am anticipating it being tough specially if i get PND which did happen last time..

awwww ID twins wow! i can understand you not wanting to know whether they are boys or girls yet. the whole thing must be quite nerve-wracking! xx

DS not getting enough attention when the twins are born is also a big worry to me. i think with a 4 year old dd you cna get her involved a lot and she will be fine, she will be a very proud big sister.
At least if you get pnd again you will recognise it. I was a mess for ages after ds was born and just put it down to tiredness, in hindsight I wonder if it was pnd.

At the moment i'm quite cool about the whole thing, i'm enjoying feeling them moving, have reduced work so enjoying time to rest, but I have had sleepless nights worrying. I'm impatient to get the next few months out of the way so I know they are born healthy and we can start work our lives out with them. Doesn't everyone somehow feel that life is a bit on hold while they are pregnant? I don't remember if I felt like this with ds.

hi all, have just been reading threads to catch up-so much is happening/has happened however stopped dead at the "feet in stirrups" to give birth. am really sorry but was quite chilled about the whole thing but now am really realy worried- will they make me do this? it doesn't say this in my pregancy book? I am really scared now

spongecake, no, no, no, no!!!! I've only been told that this will be the case with me because I'm having ID twins and had a em cs before because of fetal distress so they will want to go over the top on the monitoring. I'm going to be discussing this further as I can't see how it can be helpful to anyone unless i ended up needing forceps or ventuose.

LOL if they try to put my feet in stirrups i shall kick them, hard

Leogaela-thanks for responding so fast to me about that- I was in a bit of a sweat u can tell its my first time.. am worried enough my midwife seems v v young and has not had a child. apparently its pot luck which miwife attends at the hospital! haven't met the others. MUST NOT PANIC..

awww spongecake don't worry at all. you will doubtless have a different midwife. whereabouts in the country are you?

Hi everyone,

Gosh you don't post for twenty four hours and then it's like reading a novel to catch up! Sounds like not everyone is having such a fab time, sorry to hear it. Rainbowgirl hope everything works out with you & your dp.

Leogaela, you are so right about feeling that life is "on hold" while you are pregnant. I wish I could enjoy being pregnant a bit more, but I absolutely hate my job, and I spend so much bleedin' time there. I'm not going back, I plan to get a part-time job closer to home after my OML finishes, so I just feel like I'm marking time for the next three and a half months.

None of my colleagues are particularly happy because it really isn't the done thing in our company to have a focus other than work! And I'm only having one Leogaela, and it's my first, so I can only imagine how you feel!

As for all this weight stuff! I haven't weight myself since I got pregnant. I've always been about a stone and a half overweight. Frankly I don't care how much I put on as long as Bertie's born healthy; I can always lose it afterwards through some unhealthy fad diet .

Every time I see MIL though, she always congratulates me on "how well I'm doing" with my weight because somehow I haven't actually put on loads more 'cept on my tummy! I know she means well but I feel like saying "I DON'T CARE IF I GET FAT"!

So I vote for ditching the scales and pigging out! off to the kitchen to find the last of the choccy biccies

some one told me that they put a mirror down there so u can see what is happening. I so hope not..

am in gloucestershire, think will have baby in cheltenham.