Well crap in a Jiffy bag - It's the 22nd JS Grads thread!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 22nd grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 39th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal clubs here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

So, roll call below please, viroids!

We love lila Lauren but again with our surname we can't have it same as Isla :( boooo

I think this is a boy though so I'll probably not get to use it

wil it's not my full first name that I don't like, it's how the shortened version (ending in y) sounds with my surname. Then you've got that whole alliteration thing going, which I never think sounds bad on other people, but hated with my own name!

Morning viroids. Feeling very tired. Haven't managed a single proper lie in since I finished work. Went and harassed poor DS out of bed (it was his alarm that woke me up). He tried a few pathetic coughs then conceded he was probably well enough for school.

Really should get dressed..... The carpet is going back in the nursery today which means we can start building furniture - thank fuck yay! I've put some waterproof pads down under my sheets in case my waters decide to make a break for freedom but I dunno. I'm just not feeling like it'll happen (again) and I'll have to give up on the MLU and go be induced eventually. On the bright side that means I've got five weeks to get my lie in!

We've 'short'listed names to about a dozen. We combined lists then crossed off any either of us really weren't feeling. This does mean my first choice got vetoed but I also got to remove any I wasn't keen on without too much discussion. We've still got the name my mother utterly hates on there so we may end up with a family feud! My dad asked me to consider my grandmother's name which I feel has put me in an awkward position. I don't like it as a first name and I wanted to use my mum's name as a middle name..... Might try and find a translation for it into another language and see how I feel about it then. The baby already has two middle names so I don't want to introduce a third! Luckily DP's surname seems to go with a lot of names....

We love Ewan! He is a God in teddy form! We've had to smuggle him away from DD ready for bump, but I've never seen one thing make such a difference in a child, it was like flipping a switch, we went from this little monster that wouldn't be separated from me or go anywhere near her crib to a sleeping angel!

Oh no la... Those names have both been mentioned in my house too. DH seems stuck on Ben in particular.

MIL veto'd Geoff, Patrick and Colin but there wasn't much chance of us using them!

Grad based hooya required maybe - sat at work wanting to cry as baby won't move. Have tried lucozade but nothing. Why won't it move?!

dulcet give midwife a call if you're worried. I was told by mw that I should report any changes in movement. My baby doesn't move at all during day, only when I'm still at night or in eve

How many weeks are you Dulcet? Changes in pattern should be called in from 24-28 weeks but I'm sure your midwife would offer reassurance by listening to HB if you're less than that. I went in sobbing at 24 weeks and the little minx had just turned her back and was merrily kicking away towards my back where I couldn't feel it.

Viroids I need your advice on how to tell a friend my news assuming that disaster doesn't strike before I get chance. She is a close friend and has been trying for years to get pregnant. She has had 4 rounds of unsuccessful IVF and is absolutely desperate to have a baby. She is the loveliest person and just deserves it so much. I know it is another twist in her heart every time it happens for someone else and I just want to find the right way to tell her.

I thought about popping round to see her but she might find that odd as I wouldn't normally pop in. And also if she is upset she might not want me there. So then I thought I could send her a message and say that I thought that way she could be upset in private. But then I would be worried in case she was out at the supermarket or something!

So any ladies who have struggled to get pregnant in the past and know what it is like to hear this news - what would you think would be the most sensitive way to tell her without making it a big deal?

Is he normally very active dulcet? Definitely ring mw if you're worried!

DD has been sent home from school so although she seems totally fine now, I've gone with it anyway and rang the parents of mindees I can contact for them to be picked up early. So only DD and one other one now, frozen is on and they have a blanket each on opposite sides of the sofa...at least it will give me chance for my numb fanjo to fix!

Just popping in to say hello grads, have POumpteenS and they keep being positive so I am now one of your number! Still haven't told my parents, or the doctor, or anyone except DH. Feeling bit stunned.

Congratulations gliding!

Massive congrats gliding!

Thanks all. I am 20+5 so know it is a little early to be expecting kicks and stuff. Think I am just thrown off by it being really active Sunday and then nothing really yesterday or today. Wouldn't say its normally really active, but will get plenty of pokes throughout a day that are noticeable. but not today. It could be that the activeness on Sunday was it shifting position and now I just can't feel it so much in the new position but having a breakdown just over thinking it. Plus I don't want to be at work...

bat, it is hard and each woman is different. Do you know when her last IVF cycle was or what point she is at? Just might help you pitch it better. For me, it's like a plaster - just tell me. If people pussy-footed around it I felt like a but of a lemon - its uncomfortable for me to think I was causing them to feel stressed about it. I would rather just know. My best friend didn't tell me as she thought she would upset me. Took for me to ask directly if she was pregnant and then I was sad she felt she couldn't say. Honesty is best for sure, but with tact. Whether face-to-face or text depends on the person but I wouldn't say about her anything about being upset in private to her - you both know that will happen but best left unsaid. It's tough though, for sure!

Will a sofa and frozen bot help the fanjo lauren?

Ooh, I like Laila! If we were having a girl she'd be Luna - we had some spooky coincidences that led us to that name and we both love it. That or Izzy.

I really like Rory, but Mr T said that every Rory he knows is weird. Honestly, so many names has fallen by the wayside because of things like that!
I still have Rex and Rupert on my own list, although he hates both.

Baby seems really active last day or so! Maybe I'm noticing it more because I'm not doing as much?

Serves me right for half doing a post an hour ago dulce mine gets a wriggle on if I have ice lollies? Although it's only been last three weeks I've noticed any pattern to his movements and even then they keep changing. Call your MW and sack off work!

Welcome gliding!

Huge congrats Gliding.

Bat, this is coming from someone who doesn't struggle to conceive but I would maybe send an email if you have the address? Less likely she will open when out and about and you can write a bit more. I wouldn't really mention anything about her struggles but you're still giving her space to react however she wants without putting on a face for you.

Pis I'm dying to know all these names! Guess we don't have to wait too long to find out .

Ah Indigo I get your point. My name isn't good shortened either. Although I got off lightly compared to my sister.

How many weeks Dulcet?

Sorry x-post. I wouldn't worry too much at that stage Dulcet but if you're still concerned after an hour or two maybe phone mw. Do you have one of these magic lying down rooms you can use?

dulcet her last IVF was a year ago now and she had said that was her last try but she said last week that she is planning another go this summer. I know she wants people to be sensitive as she was very upset by the way her sister in law announced her latest pregnancy to them (although it was terrible - whipped up her top and yelled 'I'm pregnant!' I mean seriously). I want her to know before other people so she has time to get used to it before it starts getting mentioned openly. I don't want to make it like a big deal but just want to be sensitive.

Am sure your baby is OK and just having a sleepy day, my friend who had a baby last week had a few panics about her baby not moving even when she ate loads of sugar but she always woke up. Definitely call your midwife if you're worried but I'm sure all is good.

Yes an email might be a good idea willy - I can explain to her that I didn't know how best to tell her as would never want to upset her by coming across as insensitive.

No wil, no magical room here. We do train doctors and nurses where I work though so there is a pretend ward in one of the other buildings. Wonder if I can sneak in there for a nap? In reality I will be going home at 4 and laying completely still instead! Or have ice cream - what a good excuse tee!

Thank you for all listening. I know it is probably all fine, only saw it on screen on Friday. Just got used to having a little more contact with it so freaked out. I am trying to cross my legs at my desk, it normally hates that!

Hi there pig, sorry for cross post earlier! Come on in, thought I had seen you get your BFP! How are you feeling?

Yeah, don't tell her that way bat! That won't go well at all. Email or text for the first time would probably be ok to give that space you mentioned but maybe with an arrangement to meet up as well? Not necessarily to talk about it, although sure she will want to, but just to catch up.

I agree email bat I've had a few from friends when struggling to conceive. They gave me time to take stock and then respond with happiness. She will be happy for you but you're right that if face to face then she'll be under pressure to swallow down any upset.

dulcet I do think it's still quite early. Just felt mine but that's the first time this morning. They are still quite small and as pis said could have turned.

Glad you all like Laila! I think I'm going to spell it Leila but not decided yet. Boy name still undecided! Might call her Leila Marie or Leila Marianne, I'm trying to get my dm name in (Anne) and also Marie as that's a family name.

Boys - no idea. That's why this is bound to be a boy!

Hope dd is ok Lauren :(

Hi gliding! Congratulations! When are you due? We have a stats sheet you can add to

Haha not that La is obsessed with her stats sheet or anything .
Definitely go Marianne for middle name if it gets in two names you want to use. I think it's really pretty.

Hope time passes quickly for you Dulcet.

I'm expecting a delivery 'around lunchtime' and really hope it comes before nap time so I can snooze.

I know la, you're right. What did we call it before - anxiety spiral was it? I am doing that anyway. Moving on to worry about my slow cooker being on and burning the house down now. Its just one of those days!

welcome and congrats gliding

how is your burnt fanjo doing today lauren hope dd isn't too poorly?

dulcet I was told that you shouldn't expect regular movement until 24 weeks, I did phone medicom at 20 weeks when I had a no movement day because I completely freaked out, but pretty much got laughed at even though by that point I was getting about 4 noticeable periods of movement a day :/ take a rest when you can.