JSing Grads turn 21! We've got the Key to the door, cosy wombles and a drawer of dirty spoons.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 21st grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 38th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal clubs here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates! It's a bit quiet at the moment, but with all these upduffed viroids hopefully it won't be for long!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

So, roll call below please, viroids!

I'd tell her Lil ... if you don't say anything she'll prob assume you are anyway! if she's anything like the nosy buggers I'm friends with

Snigger 'blinding short men in crowds'. That sounds awful Wiggly, hope you have an easier time for this baby.

Oh God Cym, don't tell me that! Literally won't do a thing I ask. I'm sure I'll be more equipped to deal with it once I get more sleep.

Pis is right Lil but what I'd actually do is tell her and not tell dh to avoid a fight. Although in our case it would be much more likely that it would be me asking him not to tell people.

Just completely ignoring me La. Lying down in the street. Not holding hands crossing the road, hitting me etc.

Little monkey wil! Not easy, and I'm not going to pretend is know what to do.

wil that sounds extremely annoying! If it's any consolation my nearly 4yo nephew went to nursery today with one shoe on because he flat out refused to wear the other one

I would tell her lil, but not because if all the BFF stuff - just because, if she knows you had IVF, you can't exactly ignore it. Hopefully DH can understand that. If she asks outright then you can only really say yes or no and would he rather you lie?

Another glamorous pregnancy side affect there then tee? At least they aren't too painful! Mine don't seem much bigger but they are often in a bra made of broken glass so it feels!

Yay for scan chat! What a lovely clear spine too - is that a weird thing to say? Just looked like a great pic for that detail. Smiles all day I hope. I feel you should be further along too!

Viroids.. There is a BABY in my womble!! little tiny legs kicking away and heart beating merrily. Best £45 I have ever spent.

Hahaha Indigo that made me laugh. I used to know a child who was allowed to dress themselves for nursery to avoid tantrums. She used to have jeans and dresses on together with random cardigans thrown on top and hairbands on top of hats. Was v funny.

Yaaaaaaaaaay!!! Mountain! So pleased for you!

Amazing news Mountain! And only £45!!! Bargain! So pleased for you.

Ace news mountain!! Get in!!!

Hooray to mountain and chat!!! Great news.

£45?!?!??!? You clearly don't live in London.

Great news mountain! Are you having a treat to celebrate?

woohooo mountain!! excellent news. how many weeks are you?

asked dh why he didn't want me to tell her, he said too early, I said but why! he said worried about it getting out. men! she's my bff if I yell her to keep stum she will. and she leaves the country soon I need my girl time!

Awesome news mountain

squee mountain that's fab news!

lil in your shoes I'd tell her...

I think he's realised I'm likely to tell her anyway so he's conceded. thanks for all your help. its good to know ianbu!

la I think you should post your baby stuff list on the fb group as a pinned post. just an idea

Amazing news mountain congratulations!!

wil I'm sure you'll agree its easier when it's someone else's child youre dealing with that's doing the tantrums, and I can't even begin to imagine how hard it is with sleep deprivation. But the only thing I can think to say is consistency, which I'm sure you already have, and thinking that the phase will pass. My friend has not long had a baby and her older one played up at first, refusing to sleep and being really clingy, starting wetting himself on purpose, huge tantrums etc but it didn't last long. The baby is 3 months now and he's the gorgeous, well mannered boy who sleeps properly that he was before. I think it just takes some adjusting to for little ones. I'm dreading going through it with DD!

I've done a new names list in fb group. can someone pin it, I don't seem to be able to

What you mean this list lil? ;) sure!

Nursery/housing:
Moses basket and/or crib
Bedroom set (cot, drawers, changing table, nursing chair)
Sling
Swaddle things - need to learn swaddling
Baby monitor
Swingy chair thing for making baby sleep in day
Baby prison thing for putting baby in so I can have a pee
Baby gym mat
Mobile
Sophie le giraffe
Ewan the dream sheep
Nursery decorations like stickers
Bed clothes - sleeping bag

Travel:
Car seat
Buggy/travel system

Changing:
Changing bag
Changing mat
Nappy bags with industrial smelling lining to prevent poo smell from permeating house
Nappies - selection of newborns and size 1-2
Wipes
Sudacreme
Cotton wool
Metanium

Feeding/burping:
Muslins
Bibs
Bottles for feeding expressed milk
Breast pump
Boob pads
Nipple protectors
Nipple cream - Lansinoh
Steriliser and sterilising stuff
Maternity / bf pillow
Breast milk bags and containers

Clothing:
Babygrows / vests
Sleep suits
Scratch mitts
Hats

Hospital:
PJs, dressing gown, pads, massive pants for hospital
Other hospital bag stuff

Health:
Baby Calpol
Infacol
Cotton buds
Nail clippers
Thermometer
Dummies
Baby towel/hooded towel
Badedas for stitches
Baby bath
Baby soap/shampoo
Big fat pads for padding La's post-labour foof

Its much easier to deal with other people's children, they get you at your best. Your children see you when you're tired and irratable, and really they behave practicly the same every day, they do push boundries to test you and to be reasured that you are there for them, but when you're tired its difficult to react the same every time. They need to be reasured that the rules are the same, and that the thing you bought back from hospital doesn't change how you feel for them.
I hope that makes some sort of sense!

thank la

wil I have limited experience with children and most of it is from watching supernanny and practising on dn but fwiw I'd ignore bad behaviour as much as possible. even negative attention is attention so if you don't rise to the bad behaviour but make a great fuss of her when she's good that may help. obviously you have to do something about the pavement tantrums but I'd do it with as little talking as possible.

This is good advice! I'm jotting this down

Eek I dunno how DS is gonna react to the baby. Thanks for advice, I will call again tomorrow & make a fuss about seeing consultant earlier.

I don't know how my cats will react! (Cats and children aren't the same so I'm told...)

I resolve to sort through that list tomorrow and do some planning and not do any work