The final *JULY 2014* The one where we ALL move to post-natal

[justhayley]

Hiya so this will probably be our last ante natal thread Really hope that our postnatal thread is as busy.
You ladies have been a great support, and it's been fab going through pregnancy with you all. I honestly don't know how I would have got through the last 6 weeks of 4am wakings without you.

I'm not due till 24th and have no signs baby is still coming early so will probably be the last one one here - don't forget me!

Anyway will love you and leave you - actually will now pop back onto our regular thread for a chat

Happy birthing

Congratulations Ruth!

Alternating tiredness with bursts of energy today so house might actually get cleaned.

Feeling jealous of all you lucky ladies with your beautiful newborns.

That bloody Ironman incapinka - utterly rubbish you should be worrying about it on the day after giving birth! I'm going to be very interested to see how long my DH manages to not exercise whilst on paternity leave - I reckon he'll crack on day three.

Have been gardening, jam making, sewing and cooking over last few days. Combine that with general achy staggering about and needing to pee a lot - this is basically what retirement will be like isn't it? I'm pretty sold on it actually.

Oh dear blue hope dh shows you how bad he felt by turning up with a delicious lunch sorted!

incapinka fingers crossed dh realises his priorities and quickly!

Congratulations Ruth hope you and baby boy are doing well!

plate retirement sounds like a doddle compared to pregnancy! I've been impressimpressed with dh day 3 of paternity leave and no exercise yet although there was talk of a run last night! Think hes tired from doing so much around the house!

I'm feeling so tired as despite theo sleeping well and in the basket I seemingly didn't! Also waiting in for midwife is no fun- why can't they give you some kind of time indication?!

congrats inca and ruth
and anyone else I missed. ..

my phone is crap, runs out of battery every 5 minutes. so I just can't catch up. so frustrating.

I am having a very tearful day. no idea what's wrong. everything and nothing.
there's so much stuff going on I actually hope nothing happens Thursday next week.

I have to write down all my woes, I'm sorry.
DS1 told me this morning after school lessons are not on after all.
DS2 has a performance today (leaving year) that required complicated planning - and I have just been reminded that DS4 has a leaving disco also today.
so had to rethink & reorganise schedules, co-ordinate with MIL & DH, plus keeping osteopath app.
It's a logistical nightmare.

DS1 was told last week he has to leave choir as his voice is breaking - no way he can carry on from Sept. so not only is he upset, but last singing in Chapel is this Sunday - will we even be there? can't even organise leaving party for him. no time and frankly impossible.

I'm due a sweep on Friday (booked it as it seemed a good thing after all) but now have to cancel I think because I do not want go into labour like that because we also have to do Birthday cake after choir practice on Friday evening - joined for DS1 & DS2. especially to try and make DS1 feel better and not ignored.

DS2 has leaving picnic on Tuesday, DS4 has leaving picnic on Wednesday next week.

of course baby might come at the most "inconvenient" time, which is fine, of course.
but I'm just so frustrated and stressed at not able to control a thing. and all the stuff going on, all kids needing support and attention just when I'm running out if steam...

for the first time ever I'm not fed up with being overdue, but with everything and everyone else.
I really think I actually would've gone into labour already if my brain wasn't telling my body to hold on, because of all the circumstances...

sorry for ranting.
plus I get the usual "oh I thought you had baby already" from old lady at church ( ), NDN knocking on Monday "reminding" me I'm due the next day (), people calling snd texting if there are any signs ( ) and friends DD calling to ask for help with something this Sunday ( ).
I want everyone to fuck off and leave me be.

Not you all. You I need.

*until Thursday next week

Aw, Zing, that all sounds very stressful. And shame on the lady at church and NDN and people calling/texting. Can you abdicate responsibility for a day sometime soon and just have time for yourself? Bloody hard, I know, with a big family, but someone might be able to pick things up for you? and other lovely things.

I have just cleaned the bathroom and apparently my bump/ligaments think I shouldn't because they are now sore. It's not onerous because bathroom is new - just spraying on vinegar and wiping it off again, basically. I want to use my energy, not be required to sit because body can't handle it. This is so frustrating!

Oh zing that all sounds rubbish! I've been struggling with one other DC let alone a whole troop!

Inca hope the introductions go well!

ickle YY to being a real pain waiting for MWs etc to turn up leaving you stuck in all day and not able to sleep/relax thinking doorbell about to go any moment. And then they seem to be totally unconcerned that you've just spent XX amount of time trying to settle baby to sleep!

So DM arrived at same time as DH and DS got back so lunch sort of happened though I've still not had a sleep! Was just about to when DD wanted feeding again! DS not coping especially well with the transition to big brother

Oh zing I have no advice just a huge hug, can anyone friends/someone at church come over to be with you for Friday to help logistically? Try and be gentle with yourself, sit down with dh and plan out the week to support each other?

kiwi rest up although remember that frustration (says the lady gardening whilst in labour!)

blue luckily they came just aa theo was about to wake up he's hardly lost any weight too which chuffed about! Hope ds manages to get better with becoming a big brother!

I decided to post a card and get out the house- got about 2mins down the road and realised was too soon...gutted and now shattered!

Big hugs Zing. Don't beat yourself up for being emotional. You have more than enough reasons! Personally I am not looking forward to the emotional crash of day 3.

Introductions went better than I could have hoped. DS is being his usual dude like self and making the most of me sitting on the sofa reading him stories. He also loves his present from baby so he thinks she's even better.

DD unfortunately seems to like sleeping in the late afternoon/evening rather than at night so hope DS sleeps through the racket!

Nipples beginning to feel the effects of a lot of suckling. Can't remember when they toughen up but looking forward to that moment.

DS is currently curled up in the Moses basket !

Big hugs Zing. Don't beat yourself up for being emotional. You have more than enough reasons! Personally I am not looking forward to the emotional crash of day 3.

Introductions went better than I could have hoped. DS is being his usual dude like self and making the most of me sitting on the sofa reading him stories. He also loves his present from baby so he thinks she's even better.

DD unfortunately seems to like sleeping in the late afternoon/evening rather than at night so hope DS sleeps through the racket!

Nipples beginning to feel the effects of a lot of suckling. Can't remember when they toughen up but looking forward to that moment.

DS is currently curled up in the Moses basket !

incapinka day 3 was truly dreadful!

I remember it well from last time. I'm naturally very stubborn at times and so many people told me about day 3 that I refused to let it bother me. Day 4 was HORRENDOUS!!! I'm going to have a weak gin this time!!!

Other exciting news I can't really share with anyone bar DH.... I did a poo!!!! Without lactulose or pain or anything!!!!

Help!! Anyone any advice on reflux?! Think DD may have it - no experience from DS at all! Absolutely last thing I need right now if she has as DH and I at each others throats as he just isn't coping with DS being more needy - he's trying but just getting so stressed out with everything! Just don't know what is up with him at the moment.

No advice sorry. And sorry about DH. Is he on paternity leave or still working?

incapinka I'm terrified as yesterday poo was very painful- does lactulose make it looser? Apparently the drugs I'm on for anti inflammatory stitches can make you constipated. .. arhh everything hurts!

Day 5 was bad for me (day 3 was fine) and I cried at everyone in the hospital even the cleaner...

Think lactulose or movicol is meant to make them looser. Was going to start swigging tomorrow but surprised myself. It was hell last time so you have my sympathy.

Feeling emotional here. Mentioned to DH that lovely childminder can have DS for a few hours next Tuesday and Thursday morning. He replied that he might go to the office. That wasn't quite the point. He asked yesterday whether he could try and work from home for the next couple of weeks rather than take paternity leave which I said was fine as he has an important job which is at it's busiest time and it's important it goes well but going in was not part of the agreement. Especially if he doesn't actually need too. He has since apologised but it's the constantly moving goal posts. And he's off to the chiro tomorrow (2 hour trip relating to IM) and then 48 hours until training starts again. No point discussing it tonight. Wondering if day 3 has come early. Here's hoping for a positive!!

blue DD had mild reflux when she was tiny (although sometimes that involved immediately vomiting an entire feed over me, which was unpleasant for all concerned). Feeding her in a sitting-up position helped as it allowed her food to go down more easily and she wasn't moved from lying down to sitting up. We also raised the head end of her mattress in both her pram and crib so she didn't lie completely flat.

It didn't fix things completely but it did help and when I had to give up breastfeeding it wasn't an issue at all; formula seemed to stay down better.

Hope your DD is ok.

From www.kellymom.com: sitting up

thanks for hugs etc. you are my favourite people!

(and the hay day bunch)

I feel better now.
I cancelled Friday sweep, but kept the app with MW as an antenatal check up as I need to be seen anyway. DH will come with me, MIL will have younger two and a friend is picking up DS2, DS3 & DS4 from school and will deliver them to MIL (as app is at 2.30 pm)
we'll get children after MW, home, dinner, choir practice, cake - done. hopefully.

booked a sweep for Wed afternoon instead. after a lot of explaining of just how complicated things are (including roadworks that block the road to one of the clinics ) and just not being able to book an appointment anywhere the MW agreed to do a home visit. bless her.
I felt like I'm a nightmare patient, but I really can not do impossible timings or places like 3.30pm (school run) or Saturday morning at hospital (seriously? taking 6 kids with us???)
She kept on asking "can someone help?". oh boy! yes, love, they already do. every day for the last 4-5 weeks I've been relying on 6 or 7 friends regularly, plus PILs. And I just can not ask for more favours.

Anyway, it seems a bit more organised now, and this crazy day is also over so less to worry about.

so if baby could just stay put until Wed 23rd, 5pm when DH gets back and school & last leaving picnic is over that would be peachy with cream on top.
One can only hope.

Thanks again for support, it really helps to know that some people somewhere in the world get this. love you all lots.

blue sorry, don't know much about reflux, really best to talk to MW or hospital.
you can use Infacol, but it really needs to be established that your DD does have reflux, not just a bit of sick, even if the amount is more than you expect - if that makes sense.
is she really greedy when you first put to the breast? some babies can swallow a lot of air in the begining of what looks like a shark's feeding frenzy - so yeah, they can end up quite sick, which is just a normal chain of events.

I hope you get some help soon. and big hugs to you as well. and your DH. first few days and weeks are sooo hard.

inca

can you drink fig extract or prune juice? they should help you stop being constipated.

ooh, I meant ickle, sorry.

well, whoever is struggling anyway.

after DD was born I didn't poo for 3 days. I think my body just absorbed everything from the food. I wasn't constipated, there was just nothing to come out! It was bizarre

A curry did the job though, eventually.

So after amazing day yesterday feeling exhausted and fed up right now

Day 3- cried and over reacted about everything
Day 4- amazing theo slept I slept feeling positive
Day 5- theo not lost weight only positive! Hewas feeding fine then un latched screaming from 5pm-10.30 our poor neighbours! Anyway final nappy change- has done 5 dirty nappies today compared to 1/2 other days. ?.now asleep on me. Can not cope with more tears if I put him down so no sleep for me tonight. Could screaming be bad wind? Any cures? Also my stitches causing me a lot of pain and too scared to poo!

Not sure can cope with the changing emotions much longer.,!

ickle

take a few sheets of kitchen paper towel and gently press against stitches as you try to poo. just to support the area. you will be fine, the stitches won't come out, but the support and gentle pressure will help you go, and feel less scared

if this link works, watch it a few times...it's brilliant advice about different cries and what to do.