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January 2014 Thread 17 - and the final babies will be here any day now!

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Frizz1986 · 02/02/2014 23:24

Thought i would start up the last thread before we move over to postnatal thread.

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BuntCadger · 12/02/2014 19:59

choc - Could it be premenstrual?

chocoholicalcoholic · 12/02/2014 20:25

I guess it could be bunt. Oh crap. Not ready for that yet.

Felix90 · 12/02/2014 21:48

Choco I'm sure my period is coming back with a vengeance as I'm getting pains. I know it's going to be horrific and I'm just waiting for it to happen!

fryingpantoface · 12/02/2014 22:27

Choco - Henry takes that amount and roughly at that time. He's 5 weeks. I figure as I feed on demand it doesn't matter really. Oddly it bothers me when people ask if he's ready for a bottle. It doesn't matter! He can have it when he's hungry.

I'm in the Bolton area and I almost got knocked off my feet in the wind today. It's not nice at all! The electricity keeps flickering too which isn't ideal.

Mac2014 · 12/02/2014 23:13

Ladies with c sections - it's worth talking to your insurers. I have been able to drive for as long as I've felt 'fit & well'. The exception would be if I'd been specifically told not to (I've not) ... I've been out and about w/
Dh driving since day 3 - in bucks you have to go to the midwife, they don't come to you, but have been driving myself since week 3. I'd have gone mad if not - we live in a small village & most of my friends are a drive away.

RL & a forgotten password have meant I've been lurking, glad to hear all are well & all babies have now made their appearances!

Anyone else starting to think about their next one? I'm getting on a bit so trying to work out the best gap between two.

MrsVDB · 12/02/2014 23:57

mac that's handy to know thank you. I'd love to be able to pop out in the car

Pidgy · 13/02/2014 00:02

Busy on here today!

I really want to get out more but it's just too wet! When will this weather improve?! We have a lot of flooding around here as nearish the Thames. Village I'm in is fine so far but towns near us have suffered.
I have been showered, dressed and make up on every day tho! Just don't feel ready for the day otherwise.

Anyone with a Moby wrap?? Are you usin the newborn hug position? Ie legs inside/foetal position? I tried today but she wouldn't seem to fit! Maybe I have it too tight? It only arrived off eBay today. Not sure if I've made a mistake buying it! Seemed ok to tie on (after reading instructions!) but getti g her in is tricky. Advise welcomed!

We've had more green poos today too. Getting a bit worried she's not feeding long enough. Going to get infacol and gripe water tomorrow to see if that stops fussing.

Hope you're getting on ok Angel.

TobyLerone · 13/02/2014 02:55

FFS Angry
I just typed a really long message and then pressed the back button on my phone by mistake and lost it.

*pidgy, I have a Moby and I use that hold. I've only braved putting her in by myself this week, though. The other times there were 2 of us.
It does feel quite tight, but she feels secure and seems to like it/be comfortable.
You have to hold her on the opposite shoulder to the side you want to put her in. Then I grab her feet with the hand on the side I'm putting her in, and sort of slide her in diagonally, if that makes sense. There are loads of helpful videos on YouTube and it takes some practice.

No more for me, mac! I'm far too old!

Yy to getting showered/dressed/make-up on every day. I do it at 6.30, before I take DH to the station, even though every fibre of my being rebels against getting up at 6.30am. But at least then I'm ready and I don't have to work out the logistics of doing it with nobody to watch her.

We had a bit of a revelation last night. Meredith was in the middle of her usual hours of screaming, and DH was holding her and pacing the bedroom and I put the hairdryer on out of sheer desperation. Instant silence. DH and I just stared at each other like Shock
The second she was asleep, we ordered a white noise machine from Amazon! Also found this article, which was interesting:

Balls. I'll post it in the next post. My phone is being a penis.

TobyLerone · 13/02/2014 02:56

www.troublesometots.com/why-babies-love-white-noise/

Article on white noise.

TobyLerone · 13/02/2014 02:58

pidgy, I am a liar! I grab her feet with the hand on the opposite side to the side I'm putting her in.

Ugh. I'm tired.

fryingpantoface · 13/02/2014 04:16

Henry has a cold. It is worse than before and every so often he to breath. When he sneezed a bogey the size of his nostril came out and i hoped that would do something, not so much! He's had the cold for about a week now, but developed a cough and had that for about three/fpur days.

my trusty calpol room vaporiser thing is for 3+ months, not newborn, so i don't know whether I take the risk to use it. The scent thing is lavender and chamomile. In my head i cant see the difference between that and the whole "putting vicks on a muslin in his cot" thing.

saline drops done fuck all because they aren't hard bogeys, it seems to be congestion

HumptyDumptyBumpty · 13/02/2014 05:30

I need to confess. I'm finding A impossible at the moment, well, today. She's been monstrous since 6pm when we got home, screaming, rigid, comfort feeding then puking.
I'm struggling to be kind to her, as I'm tearing my hair out, and just want her to SHUT UP.
She went down finally at 1, and we're now up feeding. She's taken one side, unwillingly, fighting me constantly, so the latch was dreadful, painful for me and leaking milk. Now she won't eat any more but is grunting, farting, tensing, etc, but screams if I try to wind her. I've just yelled at her to stop being such a fucking drama queen, and I can't seem to stop being furious with her for being so insane. I don't even want to look at her. I feel like the worst person alive.
DH has taken her off me about ten times this evening and calmed her a bit, but neither of us can stop her frantic rage.

I know she's tiny, and isn't doing it to be difficult, but I can't seem to make that translate into sympathy for her. I just want her to go away. I feel like the worst mother ever for thinking like this. Writing it down semi-anonymously makes me realise I'm not reacting normally. Help?

HumptyDumptyBumpty · 13/02/2014 05:39

Oh, and I don't even have the 'excuse' of being sleep deprived, as she is usually okay overnight.
I just want her to be rational. Which makes me the insane one as I know she is three and a half weeks old FFS. What is wrong with me?

Pidgy · 13/02/2014 05:41

humpty you poor thing. It's so stressful when they are crying and you can't seem to settle them. Give her to your husband and go downstairs, get a drink /food and have a break.
Honestly, I've felt the same and not only snapped at my 20 month DS but have also told Lara to 'shut up you moody bitch'. I too felt terrible. This baby girl I've dreamt about since I was a girl, and I was looking at her screwed up, red little angry face thinking 'what is your problem' and worse things . It is difficult this parenting.
It's normal to feel like this. I think it's just if you start feeling like this all the time.

If she's fed, clean and in a safe place, it's better for you both to have 5 mins break from her.

Gtg as Lara is waking.

Xxxx

Sultanajo · 13/02/2014 06:30

Ladies, I had the implant for a year. Did not get on with it. Had no bleeding at all BUT had no libido either! Then I realised to take it out they would have to make an incision and milk it out! Nice!

Several of my friends swear by the coil, but it's super sore having it inserted - one friend passed out and another vomited! Puts me off slightly plus scared to have anyone routing about down there right now.

Henry had his 6 week check yesterday. All went well except because he squints now and again they are referring him to a specialist to get checked out... However, when I got home I realised I had managed to walk out without my prescription and hadn't discussed contraception! Seriously, my memory!!!!

Apparently Henry was the second baby she had seen that day with mucous affecting their sleep or not being able to recline. She said nothing can be done and as he grows he will deal with it better. It's just his little airways are so narrow currently. Poor little guy!

MrsVDB · 13/02/2014 06:30

humpty I agree with taking a break if you can too. We are having similar behaviour but only between 10 ish when we try and go to bed and 12/1 ish. It's so frustrating isn't it as you everything you try doesn't seem to make a difference. You just have to remember that they have no idea what's going on and aren't trying to be difficult. It will get easier

Sultanajo · 13/02/2014 06:48

chocoholic Henry is taking on average 6-8oz per feed!!! The hv said that was an unusually large amount but to go with his hunger cues and as long as he keeps it down he must need it. He is currently on the 50th centile and has put on 1lb per week for the last two weeks. Yesterday he only had 5 feeds: 7am 7oz, midday 8oz, 3.30pm 8oz, 8pm 8oz, 9.45pm 3oz. It was his most settled day yesterday! He started at 5.30am this morning though so suspect he will feed more today....

Sultanajo · 13/02/2014 07:16

toby! Lol! That happened with the Hoover for us. DH said "he probably won't like this but am gonna whack the Hoover round..." And within seconds Henry was asleep! We just looked at each other open mouthed and left it on for longer than needed! Grin

humpty you poor thing! When I was still bf I told Henry we were both aiming for the same outcome of a good latch and a happily feeding baby, so why was he trying to fight me at every step? There really is no reasoning with them at that age is there? Shock
I second the others about taking a short break if you can.... Have you tried turning the Hoover on to see if that settles the crying, or a hair dryer? It's so hard when you have done everything and they are still yelling for apparently just the sake of it.... There is always a reason, but it's often a mystery that will never be solved!

Mac2014 · 13/02/2014 07:34

humpty we had a bad day yesterday too. Crying all night btwn 1-5 and then a relentless series of ragey wheeping, tensing & kicking. My rationalising with her didn't work, nor did trying to feed - she threw herself off every 2 min and shouted at me. Once I'd checked everything, I just put her in the sling and turned up the tv. She eventually cried herself out.

Today has been much more normal so far. She went down at 11, woke at 4 for a feed and then about 15 min ago. She is being happy & smiley again. She did have a poonami in her nappy & all up her back, so I'm putting yesterday down to getting that out.

It's horrible when you're in the midst of it. I texted my DH & asked him to come & take the little madam off me. Combine the lack of control, with the loss of self when you're bfing & feeling like a large cow, there's no wonder we have bad says too.

Hth - remember we're all here to help get through it! A large Wine & Cake xx

fryingpantoface · 13/02/2014 08:13

Ah humpty, we've all been there!

i was up at 1, then 2.30, then 3 onwards with H last night. Dh has taken ds1 to nursery so i can sleep and now Henry is wide awake, having slept in my arms forcing me in an awkward position for hours.

not so fun!

think I'm going to take him to get weighed today

TobyLerone · 13/02/2014 08:18

Oh, humpty, you poor love :(

You're not the only one. In fact, I doubt that any of us will get through the newborn stage without feeling like that.

Meredith rarely seems happy or contented when she's awake. I dread 6pm onwards because it's a relentless slog to bedtime. I put her in the car to fetch DH from the station and she starts screaming. Poor DH only sees her screaming from the moment he gets home. We have to eat dinner in shifts.
Then we usually bath her and she's happy for the 2 minutes she's in the water. Then it's more screaming while I dress her, and screaming/biting/headbutting/sucking for 10 seconds while I try to feed her.
Eventually, at about 10pm she might calm down enough for us to put her in bed with us.

It's so hard. There's a reason they use not only sleep deprivation but also tapes of babies screaming as torture methods.

It's easier in the day because we can go out. But in the evening we're stuck with it! I asked Meredith what the fuck her problem was the other night. And when DS was a baby, I remember pacing the floors with him singing "You are a bastard, a tiny bastard" to the tune of 'You Are My Sunshine' Blush

You've already been given the best advice. When it all gets too much, put her down somewhere safe and leave her for 5 minutes. Whenever I do that I go back to her full of the love and sympathy which seemed absent from me before. And try the white noise!

fryingpantoface · 13/02/2014 08:28

We listened to the song Lullaby by Tim Minchin so much when ds1 was young he used to recognise the tune.

there's a reason it's so popular! I'd get the youtube link but my phone is playing up

Felix90 · 13/02/2014 08:37

Toby sorry but that made me laugh out loud Grin

Humpty I second everyone saying as long as they are in a safe place, walk away and take five minutes to yourself. That's the best advice anyone gave me before she arrived!

TobyLerone · 13/02/2014 08:39

There were equally inappropriate verses and everything, but I've forgotten them now :o

flyawayblue · 13/02/2014 08:44

I've also felt like that especially in the middle of the night when she won't settle. I normally put her back in her cot and tell dh it's his turn - dreading him going back to work next week.

I think it's just if you feel like that constantly.

We had our first major outing yesterday, down to Kent in the horrible weather to visit dh's family. Went well though she was in the car a bit long and fit hungry so very grumpy until we could stop and feed her.

I need to do some outings myself but third floor flat so can't carry her and the carrycot / pushchair downstairs.. Will need to work something out with the slings.

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