Due in September 2006......nearly there ladies!!

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Cori x

I must sort out my yahoo thingy and post some pics of DS and view all yours of course. It will be nice to use DS's name without worrying.

As or the sex of the baby, my MIL keeps going on about me having a girl and how excited she'd be buying lots of pink clothes. I keep telling her that it could be another boy (which I'm sure it is) but she just keeps telling me how wonderful it is to have a daughter. This upsets me slightly as I can't bear the thought of anyone being disappointed by my beautiful baby just because of it's sex especially after all the problems we've had this pregnancy. TBH, I really don't mind. A girl would be a scary but exciting challenge and a boy would be fab as I know how wonderful they are.

IMO, it's very rude for people to make assumptions that you are somehow unhappy or disappointed at not having a mixed brood. When you read some of the TTC threads you realise how lucky you are to be able to conceive at all. There's one lady on there who was TTC for 5 or so yrs. She finally got pg only to suffer a stillbirth around the stage we're at now!

Sorry, didn't come on to rant!

Don't worry homemama - it's an emotive issue really. I wonder sometimes if my first baby was a girl but never saw it because DH took it away after it was born because he assumed it would upset me - never decided if he was right really but he was only trying to make things easier for me so I can't be mad at him. But that's kind of how I feel with MIL, I don't want my son's arrival in the world to be any sort of disappointment to anyone. Besides, she'll probably have another chance as we know SIL is trying now too (hope it's soon!)

Hey all,

I'm still here at home and fed up!!! Had no pains last night but today have had eleven pains since about 3pm. Starting at the top of my bump, making me feel breathless and then going down to my bits and pieces. Not really painful but uncomfortable to say the least. Hoping its a sign of things moving!!!

Also had MIL over today and DD didn't even want to know her, driving me mad. She now clings onto my bump when I try to get up so I can't even heave myself up with a clingy little girl grabbing on me. It's making everyone else laugh but not me, especially when I need the loo!

My waters didn't break naturally with DD and had to be broken when I was 7cm. As soon as the mw did I went 3cm in an hour. Would actually like them to break in boots as the free stuff would be well worth the embarassment

Glad everyone else is still ok and hanging on in there although feeling pretty crappy.

Homemama your MIL sounds like my Mom - just spouting the first thing into her mind without thinking, since she probably really did enjoy having a daughter. Mom feels the same - says we've all been so easy, but all 3 of us know what a hard time we've given her.
Now, we're all in the same boat, you, me, Claire, Liquid ... I'll admit I had a little "weaning off" period when it came to the fact that (since we're stopping here) there will be no mother-daughter luncheons, white dresses, etc. etc. For the few weeks after learning it was DS#2, seems everything I read and heard was prodding me to accept that my lot was actually the better one (for me). Very strange; seriously both of my Book Club books that month were about the worst kind of mother-daughter relationships. My Mom's tack has been to convince us to have another ... I just tell her to live through my two sisters, each planning 4-5 kids . Mom's already had to deal with my not being in a sorority or making my debut. She should be used to me (in this case, my womb) not cooperating with her.
Liquid ... good luck.

But after all of the above, Angeliz, your DDs are so beautiful. Can't say I don't feel at all wistful. My sister says if I really want to get a tutu for someone I can buy it for her daughter. I think I will.

Thanks all about the pics. I think we all have incredibly gorgeous children on there tbh,(and i'm sure i'm not biased), they are all lovely!

On the flip side of this girl thing, my Mam and Dad have always said they longed for a boy, i was a mistake and they hoped against hope i was a boy! I would have been more than happy with another girl but people 'assume' that this is it because i must have longed for a boy. Very strange that people assume so much. I am looking forward to seeing how having a boy chnages my perceptions of men tbh.
When i look at gilrs and teens now, y'know dressed up and that i think 'she's someone's daughter' and worry for them!
I don't have any empathy for boys so am looking forward to seeing how that changes!

My parents also DOTE on my nephews so i hope they don't make it obvious they adore boys around my dd's!

Pol, how exciting! I keep wondering at every cramp lately too.

Angeliz you can look forward to lots and lots of love and cuddles from your new DS! I bet his sisters will just adore mothering him too once they get used to him!

Morning everyone. Pol - hope you are okay and things and maybe happening for you!
I too hate all the assumptions that just because you are having 2 children you would only be happy with one of each. We've got another scan tomorrow and if sonographer is still certain lo is a dd then we're thinking of telling people as we're fed up of everyone saying 'I bet you're hoping for a girl' etc. Also then they can go out and buy pink to their heart's content!! So far I've only told you guys that we know we're having a dd!
I had a really vivid dream last night that I'd had a show (must have been prompted by Pol's post) and that the midwife said I'd definitely have lo here within the week - I was so disappointed when I woke up that of course nothing had happenened!
Ds and dh come home tonight and I actually managed to pack most of my hospital bag last night. I moved the cot into the new baby's room (even though dh had said not to move it before he went!!) and washed ds' newborn clothes (so small!). I'm wondering how many of them I'll actually be able to use as midwife said this one will be bigger than he was (7lb3oz). Are people taking different size clothes with them just in case they have a whopper like my SIL (11lbs!)?

My parents are hoping for a boy too, especially my Dad but that's probably something to do with him being surrounded by 3 generations of women for the past 30 years! Both my parents were only children and my grandparents all died when I was little apart from the Nan who lives with us so we've definitely been lacking men for a while! I really don't mind either way and am very excited about finding out soon!

Am getting quite spooked about just how effective our rain dances have been! I don't want it to go back to being as hot as in July but it would be nice to have a little sunshine...we're just never happy are we

Marls, what's "making your debut"? I think I understand the sorority thing, although not absolutely sure... I've only ever seen it in crappy movies like Legally Blonde!

Loads of people have asked me if we'll be trying again for a girl in a couple of years. Er, no. Not that desperate that I want to go through the first 5 months (at least) of pregnancy again... And we'd need a bigger house, bigger car, bigger salary....

DH has taken DS out on the bike this afternoon. DS seems to be going through a period of being obsessed with churches and clocks and bells for some reason. Bit worrying since both DH and I are aetheist - hope he doesn't grow up and want to be a monk!!!

Hey everyone, hope you are all well and your bumps aren't causing too many problems.

Homemama, Ikea do some steps for £7.99 that may be useful for your cot problem. I've been training ds to climb into his bed, bath and car seat incase I don't get my vbac.

On Tuesday (3 weeks before my edd) DH decided to pull down the wall between the nursery and ds's room, now ds's bed is in our room, dh and I are on a mattress on the floor and we can't unpack because there is nowhere to put everything until the plasterer has been. Please do not let this baby make an early appearance!

Pol, I hope you are ok and that lo is either staying put or coming quickly (whatever you'd prefer )

Keep on feeling lo move in my bits, not in my tummy but like she's trying to climb out. Feels very weird!

Well, the roast is burning so I'd better go, Look after those bumps x

Claire - I'll e-mail you re debs ...

LOL on churches and bells ... DS had a period where he loved all of my purses, but especially a specific red one he called his "favorite." Still loves trying on my shoes, especially heels. Glad at least he is feeling fashionable these days.

Went out last night to a new organic/farmer's market restaurant with DH. Felt wonderful; hadn't had a night out with him in a long time. Hadn't had food like that, either. Sadly, around here hard to find really fresh, light food if I don't cook it myself.
We discussed the big questions: Where do we, as a family, want to live long-term and send the boys to school? What do I want to do when both boys enter school (in 5 years)? How does DH want to spend his retirement?
At home we're so often interrupted by DS or just so exhausted in general, there's never time for this. We decided after DS2 starts sleeping well, we'll try to go out once a week if we can.

We have a similar problem with my MIL. She loves boys though and not girls. She brought DD (before she was born) lots of blue sleepsuits... and boys toys. She says she doesn't like girls, they are too strong willed! It infuriates me as it's as if she is saying she loves DD less and her two other grand daughters than her two grandsons. And worse of all in a way we are having a boy this time! I'm sure with all the hormones raging that we will have a few rows over it all. I have already said to DP that if anyone goes to the baby before saying hello to DD there will be trouble. It sounds favouritist (if there is such a word) on my part but DD has known life without bubba and bubba hasn't. Also when he's little he won't give two hoots. Already putting up with the sarky comments of 'oooh someone will be jealous' as if it's something to revell in. Which gets my hormones raging - who in there right minds would be happy with their child feeling miserable, jealous and pushed out????? So I fully sympathise with those women out there with family members putting in there input on whether they wanted you to have a girl/boy. Surely they can be just as happy with a healthy baby?!

As for the pain thing... had a little more mucus today, but not alot. Had pains which were irregular last night until 5:27am to be precise which happened once or twice every hour but nothing has come of it. DP has been no use in saying oh well last time you said you knew it was labour... trying very hard to keep my cool and say, yes this is how it started last time but didn't keep bloody stopping!

Been washing white sleepsuits and vests for my friend who is due in Jan and has no cash for bits. Which is keeping my chin up and taking my mind off 'is this it?'

Also MIL having a bit of a drama at her house with an unwanted guest... her BIL who is a complete chauvanistic pig- even to her standards and she still irons her 40 soemthing yr old sons undies...! So had her round yesterday in tears while DP was at footie with his nephew. Felt actually really sorry for her amid pains and DD having countless tantrums.

Evening all!

I haven't posted for a while as have been so hectic here with guests (since my Grandma departed) that have just refused to leave. I forgot how exhusting it is running around after people, cooking, changing beds etc. It's been nice to catch up etc & normally I'm a very social bunny but I've found that even talking is wearing me out!!!! Anybody else incredible irritable too? I had strong BH last night, hence not much sleep & just feel quite fed up & in some respects wish baby would come sooner rather than later THEN I remember that DD will be 2 on the 4th & I pray that I'm around!!

Pol, I had a show last time & started contractions every 5 mins & ended up in hospital some 3 hours afterwards!! I think because it happened for me so quickly (the show that is not the birth!!!), I find it amazing that MWs say it can happen 2-3 weeks before the actual DD...if you see what I mean? Do keep us all posted...infact who is first on the list to give birth? It seems like an age ago when we all wrote down our details...

I can't believe what I'm reading about some of your MIL's insenstive comments... Why can't people just keep sctum about what they're thinking? Does it really matter what sex the prospective grandchild is? Also annoys me the assumption that as we have a daughter that we both automatically want a boy this time in order to have "the pair"...well no actually! We'd love another girl but equally if its a boy, as long as it's healthy that's all that matters. I hear boys are more loving anyhow...true????

Clairemow....congrats on DS potty sucess!!!! Totally understand how you're feeling as DD has pooed 3 times on potty this week at her own insistance & I feel it's been a real breakthrough.. (even though she doesn't like us looking at all...say's away Mummy!) She's moved well into her new bed & room too...hasn't got out once from ned...better than we thought...so fingers crossed.

Liquidclocks, I have the same BB carrier...!!!

Thinking of us all the time!!! x

Pol,we have bought 4 or 5 little pressies for DS (all under £5) to give to him each time someone visits with a present for the baby. I've asked both sets of parents if they can bring a gift for DS but of course MIL thinks this is silly pandering. She doesn't seem to understand that all baby will be interested in is the boob. DS on the other hand will need to be shown that he hasn't been pushed out and that everyone still loves him as much as ever. (I'm actually crying as I type this, bloody hormones!!)

BTW Pol, we have a few spare bits an pieces such as a spare microwave steriliser. I'm not sure where you are but if you CAT me then maybe I could send them on to your friend.

Mandaz, that goes for you too. Please don't be offended btw, we've just been very lucky to accumilate so much more than we need and we'd be happy to see it go to a good home. Also have M&P newborn car seat, no accidents but a bit upright which is why we've bought a new one. However, it's easy to use as it clicks in and out of a base that you leave strapped in.

Angeliz, having a son does give you more empathy with men. I'm constantly thinking about how it's my responsibility to make sure he grows into the sort of man I want him to. When I teach him about sex I'll be teaching him how to show respect for women etc. The book, 'Raising Boys' was quite interesting. Gave me lots of insights although not sure we'll take him to pizza hut and tell him about our sex life when he's 12 (as book suggests)!

Marls, DH and I had just started going out together again when I caught with this baby. Really miss getting tarted up and getting taxis to expensive resturants where we could flirt with each other over dinner and nice wine. I wouldn't change DS or baby for anything for I do think your marriage changes when you have children. (Or are we just poorer and shattered)

Take care ladies. Hope to get sorted with the yahoo chat group next week. Can't wait to see all the pics and share mine,

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Norms, I can't believe you've had to wait this late in the day to finalise your choice for an elective. Is this common? I know my cs date isn't sorted out yet but I've not been in the position of knowing I want one right from the start.

Don't worry about ranting at your DH. If they can't take it when you're 8mths pg, when can they? My DH is very tuned in to my needs and very considerate at the moment but he's still copping an earful daily! Especially my daily, 'how will I cope with 2 under 2 full time with no family or good friends close by and no help whatsoever?????' DS isn't even due to go to nursery until next Sept. All he says is, 'why don't you go back to work then?' Which is when I scream at him that I'm not bloody looking for answers, just sympathy! Oh well!

Hi all
hope everyone had a good w/e?
All the comments about MIL's / mothers wanting girls / boys makes me so they should be grateful for healthy grandchildren! I could tell my mum was a little diasppointed I was having another boy, but I guessed my SIL would have a girl and she did , so took the pressure off - but it upset me that my DS2 would seem to be a disappointment before he's even born!
Well we have had a bit of a nightmare w/e quite honestly.
My BIL was up from london for the w/e and we know he drinks a little excessively, but he turned up at a bbq we were at on our crescent, having been drinking all day. I went to bed at about 11pm and told them not to make any noise when they came in, anyway of course BIL was so drunk he crashed in to the house and thought it would be funny to throw my birthing ball round our living room. I came downstairs absolutely furious, told them to keep the noise down and went back upstairs. but I could hear DH trying to keep him quiet, but BIL's voice was getting louder and louder and I could tell they were arguing, the next thing I heard was crashing, came downstairs to find DH having to restrain BIL from hitting him! DH threw him out of the house in disgust. He claimed the next day he couldn't remember what happened, but DH has told him under no uncertain terms that if he doesn't get help for his drinking problem he will not be allowed to see DS or the new baby and he is not welcome in our house. It is all very upsetting especially for DH and I was very shook up. You think these sort of things happen to other people not your own family. It is really horrible.
Then sunday we had our bbq for my mum's birthday and my brother and SIL came over and DS was being really good with my neice (11 weeks old now) gave her lovely kisses and was very gentle, but he then took her dummy out of her mouth (as toddlers do) and my SIL completely snapped at him and called him naughty, I was gobsmacked - didn't know what to say. DS is generally a very nice child and not nasty, just a little cheeky, it was completely unnecessary, I realise that my SIL is perhaps a little protective, but she has to let her DD interact with other children, and you don't disciplne other peoples children do you?
The funny thing was though, my mum seemed to be more upset than me and once they'd gone she let rip about my SIL, saying she was fuming with her for speaking to DS like that!
Sorry this is so long - but I felt the need to get it off my chest - I feel better now and feel free to skim over my post!

Oh Mabel, sounds like a very stressful weekend.

Your BIL does sound like he has a problem but it's very good that your DH was so firm with him as you can't have that sort of behaviour with young children around. Your SIL does sound like she over reacted a little although in my experience, first time new mums seem absolutely terrified of toddlers. She was probably scared of germs getting on the dummy. She'll soon learn!!!

Hi all,

Cori, DS also doesn't like to poo in front of us, and will take the potty up the other end of the garden and say "go away mummy". .

Norms, I guess they will measure your baby's head at the scan this week? they did at ours a couple of weeks ago. I had a long chat with my consultant (insisted on seeing him rather than registrar...), and we decided on VBAC, but only because the reason for my previous section (breech with feet round ears) doesn't exist this time as he's head down and fully engaged.... It sounds like your reason for section may well be present in this pregnancy as well, so I can't imagine they will be funny about it. good luck.

Mabel, it sounds as though you had a stressful time - echo Homemama, well done to your DH for dealing with his brother like that. Nightmare for you all.

I don't think taking a dummy out of a baby's mouth is a disciplinary offence personally (although have to say I would tell someone else's child off if they did something like bite or pinch - esp if their parents weren't there). Surely your DS was just being curious? Seems rather an over reaction on SIL's part. Maybe it was germs she was worried about (she'll get over that and start picking it up off the floor and just licking it herself eventually!!), or perhaps she's anxious the baby might cry if the dummy goes.

Took DS to the zoo this morning, and am exhausted now. We spent ages examining a sleeping hippo!! Oh, and having a tantrum in the restaurant - he wanted a picnic and I said he had to try and do a wee in the loo first - NO WAY!! Meeting DH and a couple of friends and their DD in Pizza Express for tea at 5, so that should be nice.

Getting quite a lot of Braxton Hicks now, and tingling feeling that feels a bit like cystitis. Can't do my trousers up as the baby has dropped so low. Bring it on.

POL, HOW ARE YOU??

Pol and Claire-am so envious of your progress. I will something to happen every day now I've finished work, and although I get the odd BH and I feel heavier lower down, I have this nasty sinking feeling I'm going the same way as last time.(induction and emergency CS).
Congrats Claire with the potty success!
See some of you are having odd dreams, last night I dreamt I played for Man Utd and scored a goal,DH dreamt about LO again, funny cos I never do.
DD not being clingy with us, just wants MIL all the time. All I'm getting is a load of abuse-kicking,biting and pinching which really upsets me atm and makes my last few weeks with just DD not the enjoyable prospect I hoped for.

Appyday, DS swings from being clingy to me and telling me to go away and saying no mummy I want daddy. Varies from day to day, and he's quite adament about which he prefers that day. I'm still convinced they know more about it all than we do by some primaeval instinct...

Sure that I'm just going to get lots of BH for the next 2 weeks and be late too...

Oh yes, can definitely sympathise with that. Ds says 'grandma' (MIL) all the time and when she is here if i'm holding him he wants to go to her I'm sure she loves it but it makes me feel so resentful!!

Appyday - DS prefers daddy one minute and mummy the next - depends often on which of us has offered to read him a choo choo story!

I have to grumble here or DH will shoot me! My hip has finally seized up completely this evening after a full day in the office - can't even walk a few steps now without getting horrifc shooting pain down both legs hope it's gone by tomorrow morning as I've got an important meeting at 11! Second to last 'important' one before maternity leave starts though so nearly at a point where I can just work from home all the time.

On a plus note my two office buddies said today that I have such a lovely small neat bump and didn't davina mccall look huge compared to me! I love them!

Mabel -sorry you're having such a hard time with your BIL and I hope your DH can be strong enough to stick to his guns, sadly it doesn't sound like he's in a fit enough condition to be trusted near your children at the moment. It's so hard when alcohol can do that to someone you care about buta firm hand is probably what it's going to take if it's gone that far already.

Well done everyone who's had success with the potty training - I shall be coming to you for advice next year sometime! (Also good tip re teeth cleaning on the other thread claire, will be giving that a go!)

Very at those of you having progress - can't wait to get this baby out now, my body wasn't built to carry them after 35 weeks at all!

Liquid & Tassis- thanks re advice about carpal tunnel will mention to GP/midwife.

Liquid i have booked an amenity room in the hosp, cost £50 for two nights (it has en suite). Although they can't say i will definately get it just depends on demand but if you book you have priority over people who ask on the day. If you stay longer they just invoice you after you have been discharged.
I empathise with the whole migraine thing as i suffer from them and i was told that all i could have is paracetamol which is all i've had during the pregnancy, and concequently i've been eating them like sweets. They're a waste of time

Mabel i know how you feel when you say that you didn't realise your family could be like that. It's a shock when you see things that happen to 'other people' happen within your family unfortunately i speak from experience .

Glad things are moving along for every1. I'm feeling a little left out -not had any BH or anything like that but i am glad my LO is very active.

I've got my last parenting class 2morrow - must admit i'm not really interested tho - i'm not sure how informative it is, guess i'll find out when i've had the baby.

Ezridax, hope you get your room! I've got the 'chat' with midwife coming to my house tomorrow so I'm going to discuss it then. I wish doctors would think twice before recommending paracetamol for migraines, partly because they don't work very well but also because many migaineurs have a hypersensitivity to it andit can prolongattacks,not shorten them sorry - get off my specialist patient high horse now! On a more helpful note a nice side effect of the codeine (with paracetamol mixed in) that I've been taking for my hip recently has been equally as good for taking the edge of the pain in my head too so if you're still struggling might be worth asking for