September 2014 2nd thread for a chatty bunch

[TheOnlySeven]

bex it is normal to get worried. I was reading about childbirth earlier and kept thinking OMG how am I going to do this?! It's going to be horrendous, how are you going to cope etc etc... happy days of hormones making us go happy and worried in the space of a few hours!!

Broody yes I've heard your body adjusts so they both get whet they need from the milk (no idea how- seems like magic to me! ) but I've also heard of toddlers getting really chubby due to extra fat and calories so I'm not sure about that.
Night weaning went so smoothly I'm almost tempted to say she'll be fine but don't want to jinx myself!

Laura2611 poor you!!!! My friend was sick day and night and was really worried as she was loosing weight, had to be put on a drip at some point as she was getting too dehydrated, tablets never worked for her but she now has the most adorable little 1 year old and said her little girl was worth every minute of it :)
I am feeling better this evening after spending the day going "I feel soo sick! How am I going to do my work (I work from home), this is awful, I don't want to keep feeling like this" etc etc poor hubby is so patient. I am looking forward to being able to tell my customers (vast majority of them are mums) that I am trying my best but that I may not be able to send all orders daily as I am preggers and feeling rubbish lol!

My mum had PND with both me and my brother, not sure if she had meds for it though, does that mean I'm more likely to get it too? Hope not :/ I think I'll do the cross that bridge when thing too Hubby!

Laura2611 as for tablets, I would weigh the pros and cons. If you are sick you may get dehydrated and feel even more poorly so perhaps meds will help you have a most enjoyable pregnancy and in the long term be better for the baby?
I read that even if you can't keep food down, at this stage the foetus is able to use nutrients stored in your liver + you can catch up on healthy food later in pregnancy xx

I think you may be more at risk of depression, topmammy but not a certainty by any stretch. Mine was brought on by absolute sleep deprivation - she was waking 12-15 times between 8 and 2/3!! - and then just not at all coping. I don't have friends or family around me where I live (they're an hour away) so it was very tough for me. I would advise not to worry about it and if you start to feel overcome by it all, then ask for help and not try to struggle through like I did. Made me sick. I didn't get meds or I'd have needed to have stopped bfing, which I enjoy and at that time gave me the bonding time I needed with dd.

choccy oh how I know that feeling of desperation! See above re waking times - went on for 18 whole weeks!! Felt like I was actually going to die!! It was so hard because all the hv and docs kept saying was "leave her to cry, don't go in to her or she will have won". (Won?! Really?! Omg!) They didn't have any other options for us, even though we kept on saying that's not our style. Just contributed to everything getting too much for me. Anyway, I'm stronger now and have accepted this is our life

Broody there are lots of anti depressants that are safe for breast feeding.

If I could take a med to keep me mentally healthy and it was classed as safe for breast feeding, I would jump at the chance. Unfortunately anti depressants worsen my condition and are strictly banned.

topmammy depression can be hereditary but really not very strongly so (and less so than bipolar, although not sure why). It's more a mix of environmental and genetics factor. I have occasional bouts of depression since I was 17 yet my parents never had it, neither did my grandparents etc...
In any case don't worry, it is highly treatable in the vast majority of cases and as long as you see your GP early you would be back to your happy self before you know it.

Twosa, I think it depends on your gp. When I went to see them after dd was born they basically said I had to stop bf if I wanted any anti d's. They were refused to give me anything saying there was nothing I could take an I should stop bf to make me feel better. Bloody useless.

Twosascrowd, the antidep I am taking is fine for breastfeeding and for pregnancy (when I say fine I mean if, when you weigh the pros and cons with your GP and you both agree that discontinuing the meds would be worse for your baby because of the state you would be in then best to keep taking them). I would have preferred to take nothing at all, unfortunately if you have a medical condition (and depression is) then you need to treat/control/prevent it in the same way as you would treat diabetes etc.

Thisisnow unfortunately some GP aren't very understanding when it comes to MI although in all fairness they are getting better. I think the fact that the vaaast majority of depression sufferers are women doesn't help male doctors understand or want to understand better.
The one I take, studies show that even though some of it gets passed through breastfeeding, it is perfectly well digested by the baby.

After constipation, depression lol we like our -ion topics in this group :)
I am not feeling sick tonight hurray so hubby and I are going to watch a film in a little bit.
I am French and want to bring up my child bilingually so I think I need to start telling my parents to send me CDs of lullaby in French!!!!

Aaaaah hubby, my friend is French and she speaks both languages to her lg (just turned two). The lg is speaking back in both too so really positive. I've noticed she always gets told off in French though

I'm going to have to change gp's. Every time I go they want me to stop bf- "you don't need to anymore" "can't give you anything if you bf" blah blah blah. One even told me I was a nuisance as he had to look up what to give me. Have had several say I can't have antibiotics yes ok then. What do they give women with mastitis?!!
They give me the rage

thisisme exactly the same here! Bloody useless aren't they?

Some GPs, like us teachers and topmammy will agree there are just useless!!!!
Definitely change to a more understanding one. I have been told incredible things by GPs in the past (even had one who associated PND with being less of a natural mum, as in "you're not the type of mum who will get PND"... and you feel like saying and "did you do your medical training at Hogwarts School for Wizards?!" lol
I hope the bilingual thing works, I have some friends whose lo understand but don't speak but I think it's because they tried the whole "I can't speak this mummy" and when they started asking for things in English to French grandparents everyone let them get away with it so they never really "had" to speak it if that makes sense!
Think telling off in French is easier lol, when you are annoyed it comes out in your mother tongue!!!!

It's ridiculous. It cant help bf rates if even gps arnt supportive.
I went once and needed antibiotics, had dd sitting on my knee and when he'd prescribed I asked if ok for bf and he rolled his eyes! "She doesn't need bf at her age" she was about 14 months .
I have him my stern look

Gave!

At the end of the day it's up to the parent to decide really...

Thanks broody and hubby. I've not experienced depression before I don't think, although have been very down/suffering anxiety at one point in my life. Very happy now though thankfully. Both my parents have been on anti ds at some point in their life. I think life can just be really hard sometimes! I hope to escape PND but shall have to wait and see. I've a feeling my mum will be watching me like a hawk as not only did she suffer from it herself but she gives a training session to other midwives about mental health in pregnancy!

My heart feels like it's beating out of my chest at the mo! Although I don't feel breathless or anything. Is this another pregnancy symptom?!

hubby that just about sums it up - "not the type of parent to get PND" what a load of absolute sh1t.

While I'm having a little rant, I'm totally fed up of people telling me I shouldn't still be bfing because dd is nearly two. Do you get that thisisme? Even my mum is like "it doesn't look good having a toddler hanging off you..." - all of twice a day?! In the privacy of my own home?! I think mum and dad have always found it weird because she couldn't breastfeed my sister and I so they haven't been used to seeing it. Plus in the late 70s, bottles were very much in favour so she may have that mentality still. Idk but they're my boobs and my baby so....

Phew. Sorry ladies. Feel good to have got that out my system, haha! No more ranting from me. Promise.

"Did you do your training at Hogwarts School for Wizards?" baahaahaaa!! Brilliant

Hubby, my parents tried to give me a head start in French by making me listen to this kiddies French tape thing in the car! Hehe. Don't think much went in but I did do French GCSE. I think it's an amazing skill to be bilingual, wish I was! How did you learn English so well Hubby? (sorry for being so nosey )

Are any of you girls on Instagram btw? Happy to share my username with you if you want to see pix of dd?