June 2014: THREAD 3: Booking in+counting down 'til the 12 week scan!!

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hello everyone,

Can I join too? due date for me is June 10th! booking in tomorrow and am so looking forward to my scan (no date yet). I keep thinking.... how do I know my baby is still growing, then I get worried.

This is my 2nd, I have a MC in earlier this year :(

Welcome S1mmy! Congratulations, sorry to hear you've had a bumpy ride in getting here.

Been lurking but not posting, felt too shit tbh.

You London types have so much choice! It is much simpler here out in the sticks :) Had the option of either Hereford Hospital (12 miles away) or Gloucester hospital (20 miles). Both sons were born in Hereford so that's where we're heading again- no MLU and quite small so my boys were even born in the exact same delivery suite. But the hospital is fine- I don't even know about the stats for medical interventions etc but am hoping for a fastish natural labour again (5.5 and 4.5 hrs from first contraction to delivery) so fingers crossed I won't need to find out either! I used some excellent breathing and visualisation techniques taught at NHS antenatal class's and a TENS machine, teeny bit of gas & air et voila. Can't sing their praises highly enough on all three counts.

Really sick here still, drugs helping but still signed off work and sleeping on the sofa most of the day whilst ds1 and ds2 at school. Not sure how Bezza is managing to cope with hyperemesis too and a toddler- thinking of you matey. Have kept down 4 cream crackers and extra mature cheese today so massive progress for me!

Thanks sick, I'm coping with toddler only by staying at my mums so she look after us both (and by that I mean do all the looking after of DS as his useless mother cannot do anything for him) this means he only wants his nanny at the moment and not me which is hard but I'm lucky he loves her so much. Sorry you've had a rough day today.

Welcome s1

Interesting book. I shall buy it I am wondering if she talks about the health cost in case something goes wrong. My gut feeling is that there's where the trouble is. No risks because it can be expensive. I am a researcher (in a totally different area) and it seems that the you constantly find new information (contradictory or not) in every single article and it can be overwhelming.

sorry x post.
Welcome s1
I hope you'll feel better soon bezza and sick

Boo to sickness! I hope we all feel loads. Better soon. I am feeling less nauseous today thankfully and survived long conference (which was very interesting but my inner pedant was very annoyed at a few gratuitous apostrophes and poor spellings. Does nobody proof read slides? Annoying all on slides presented by my company!)

Only one more day to survive before weekend - woohoo!

Expecting Better. I am such a science and stats geek! I am a bit addicted to the radio 4 programme More or Less and keep downloading old podcasts.

I've discovered that protein seems to be the best way for me to beat the nausea. I don't usually eat much meat but I'll have to change my ways. I made a good start with a rather extravagant steak last night

I have my booking in appointment with my indie midwife on 18th. I cancelled my NHS appointment because she can do everything, including taking blood (if I want) and arranging scans. I probably shouldn't be but I'm amazed that she can do absolutely everything that the NHS midwives can, so I don't need to involve them at all!

I have a friend who's training to be a doula and she's agreed to be mine, which I'm delighted about. She's incredibly calm but also someone you wouldn't want to mess with, so I want her on my side!

Expecting better annoyed me, I stopped after a few chapters.

Just have to share, got low fat beans and nice wholemeal bread and had beans on toast and got M&S lemon & lime high juice and for the first time in 3 weeks don't feel constantly sick.
The lemon & lime high juice is lovely

She doesn't really give me enough numbers to make my own decisions, just throws a few studies at the reader and then says how and why SHE made her own decision - all nice and well, but doesn't help me as I realised early on that I'd often come to a different conclusion than her.

Emmazers that sounds great! Did you have to tell NHS why you wouldn't see their midwifery team? Does your midwife send everything to the NHs labs and hospitals?

I just read the info on 'Expecting Better' so not really in a positive to criticise but felt it goes into dangerous territory by giving people the green light to drink way more than is healthy for their baby.
I know most people are responsible adults and can make informed decisions but not all people are responsible and would see her advice as the green light to drink irresponsibly without feeling guilt.
But maybe I need to read the book before I get my judgy pants on

clutter I have been drinking gallons of M&S Lemon and Lime high juice. Its amazing with sparking mineral water!

bee I get that! I guess what I really liked about it was the way in which she looked at things and questioned and put some more stats in the mix. Didn't always agree with her reasonings but it def opened up my eyes about how much conflicting or outdated crap is out there.

Emma sounds like you're going to have an amazing team! Very jealous! :)

I also listen to more or less podcasts :)

Oooh Carrie, that sounds lush, will be getting some sparkling mineral water tomorrow. That could be my Friday night treat !

Ive read the first couple of sections of that book too. I've quite enjoyed it so far. Whilst I've chosen not to drink coffee or alcohol at all for the first 12 weeks at least, I still found what she was saying interesting. I am a bit geeky though ...

So i now have a stinking cold and feel like crap Not feeling very pregnant right now which is making me worry, but maybe that the cold symptoms have taken over i guess. Still hungry all the time, but i get like that with a cold as well.

Hope those with sickness feel better soon

I just spent some time on 'BabyCenter', the American site. It's so different, hilariously different cultural assumptions. For example this is from their discussion of returning to work:

"When trying to decide if you're ready to return to work, ask yourself the following questions:

• How long are your working hours? Working more than 20 hours a week before six weeks postpartum is likely to wipe you out. Your body needs time to recuperate.
• Is your job physically demanding? If your job calls for heavy lifting or climbing, you may not be up to it before six weeks. You don't want to use up all your energy on the job and have none for your baby when you get home. Besides, if you're not physically up to the demands of your job, you could make your workplace unsafe to yourself and others."

It must be so hard going back to work after just 6 weeks. I was such an emotional wreck I could never have been any good at my job 6 weeks postpartum!

Hi all happy Thursday!

In a bit of a dilemma and you guys seem good with advice and opinions! Was planning on telling my department about the baby in a couple of weeks. Today a colleague of mine, whose husband is being treated for cancer, confided that the hardest thing for her is having to put her plans to start a family on hold for a year or so til he's recovered and how she's been crying seeing babies on tv.

I feel so bad for her and now don't know how to tell her I'm pregnant. I was just going to announce it in a department meeting so they all hear together. Should I still do that? Should I tell her first separately? Oe keep my secret longer? :/

Liquid I just called my health centre's reception desk and they didn't ask any questions. I was a bit surprised. All the scans and screening does indeed get done through the NHS.

I understand concerns over the approach of Expecting Better and that's the NHS's entire reasoning for discouraging drinking because there's absolutely zero evidence that light drinking is in any way harmful, however I also think it's misguided. Firstly it's patronising to assume that women can't make their own decisions based on the facts but also because I think it can actually be counter-productive. If you start off lying or withholding information or giving advice not based on sound evidence then people aren't going to listen to you. Everybody knows that drinking heavily during pregnancy is a seriously bad idea and to be honest if that isn't enough to stop people then they have more serious problems going on and the official advice really isn't going to help.

I just feel the stance the NHS takes on advising pregnant woman to only have 1-2 units per week if at all is the best policy to promote safe delivery of a healthy baby. One persons "moderate" alcohol consumption may appear "heavy" drinking to another and the lines of safe drinking get very muddied. Of course most responsible adults know that heavy drinking during pregnancy is dangerous and of course they require more specialised help but there are also expectant mothers who are very unclear and to them 3-4 glasses of wine a night they may class as light but this could be dangerous to unborn foetus. Just saying and only my opinion.

Clever I would tell her separately first, so she has time to deal with her feelings about it in private.

Clever I would agree with Gin and then t won't be so hard for her to hear in big group and sure she would appreciate you thought of her first. Would still tell your work when you were going to as that is right for you.

clever I'd tell her first she can process the emotions rather than having to try and deal with them in front of a group of people, am sure she'll be happy for you and appreciate the heads up