October 2013: Newborn snuggles and waddles to the finish line

[FeministInTraining]

Stats sheet here

New arrivals here

Key:
SC - still cooking (pre EDD)
SFW - still f*ing waiting (post EDD)
OWT - on way to theatre (CS)
IP - induction in progress
SWIL - somewhere in labour
LIT - lost in transition

morning ladies, am afraid Ive only managed to catch up with the overnight talk.
falcon I also have no wise words but you've already had some fantastic advice and I just want you to know how well you're already doing by recognising the depression. I know so many people who have struggled and not acknowledged it so you really are doing so well even though you dont feel it xx

Good Luck tucking and shooting!! Looks like that full moon is working its magic a little early. lots more babies tomorrow hopefully!

ruby were having the same issues here with Isla. we not have her crib mattress propped up with a pillow under the mattress as advised by the midwife. I have an oversupply of milk and makes her so windy and often choke. we have been feeding lying down aswell when Im able which she seems to find easier. I also take her off whenever she coughs on the milk and wind her then put her back on. our feeds are very quick though so makes it possible to do that.

We had 5 day check yesterday and explained my concerns to midwife re:5 minute feeding and Isla being so sleepy. midwife ws concerned about her sleeping so long at night but when we weighed her she had put on 20 grams so all is ok. I was so relieved I cried (day 5 seemed to be my baby blues day) Anyway so all good on the feeding front now that were coping with just having an awful lots of milk. So thank you to all who gave support the past few days. Hoping she continues to gain or will have to start waking her for feeds and midwife said to definitely not let her sleep more than 6 hrs.

GT very jealous of you getting to 3 weeks with no explosive poo!! we had a "just stick her in the bath" one last night in which shed manage to get poo literally up to her chest... how is that even possible?!

mrsH glad C is feeding better

and I know Im a bit behind but so glad all is well with A flyer

Hope all SWIL are doing well and sending labour vibes to all SC and SFW, and positive sleep and feeding vibes to all with babies x

Good luck Tucking and Shooting!

Jelly - how many days post CS are you now? As I said, I did a lot of heavy ish lifting and all normal household things like cleaning and the school run from 2.5 weeks as DH went away for ten days. From ten days post CS I was able to do most things, but was still tender. By the time DH went away, it was really fine. I was given no advice (oral or written) post CS about not lifting etc, apart from being told to check my car insurance (I don't drive so no issue). I asked the MW and HV and they said to listen to my body re lifting DD (honestly - she's the size of a 5 yo!) - if it doesn't hurt it's fine! I'm now 5.5 weeks post CS and certainly have had Jo setbacks in recovery etc as a result of all that lifting etc!

MrsHN - Boots do an ultra slim maternity pad with wings (in the big Boots on the high st, they're upstairs with all the baby stuff) - they're fab!
Re bf sides, definitely start on the boob he didn't start on last time, so don't just start where he left of. So if he's taking both boobs, do LR, then RL next time. It's best that way so that each boob has an opportunity to get totally emptied (by virtue of being the first boob in the feed) every other time. Tbh though, it's not an exact science do not the end if the world if you forget! If you always start where he left off though, you may well start to notice one boob being more full than the other after a few feeds. The only exception to the LR, RL thing is if you suspect a blocked duct or are feeling a touch mastitis -y. If so, ALWAYS start with the sore boob. If it is in fact the other boob's "turn", give the site side for five mins (to sort of take the top of the milk off!) then revert to the normal boob.

Clapham...? Hope you're ok and feeling brighter x x

Twins have had a slightly better night. Much more what I would expect! Waking every two hours or do but settling in their cot fine after being kept upright for 15 mins post feed (all my babies are a bit silent reflux-y / have immature tips if stomachs!).

Ruby was it you with projectile vomiting?! I would ask GP about reflux (normal, not silent) x

Pink - yay!!! It seems you also have fast supply plus efficient feeder like me! You will be sooooo grateful for this in the weeks / months to come! So glad Isla is gaining well. Once I knew DD was gaining well, I just ignored the length of feeds thing as 5-10 mins just was plenty for her!

Sorry - not give the "site" boob first in case of a blocked duct, give the sore boob first x

Where is orange? We didn't hear off her yesterday I wonder if she was swil?

Falcon I really feel for you. I think pushing the DR to refer you asap for cbt or counselling and upping your meds is def the way forward. I've suffered with depression in the past, more anxiety for me, but it sounds to me you have similar to what I get bouts of "Reactive Depression" which as you know it eventually does pass. However it's horrid at the time and everything seems so doomed and like it will never get better. I tried loads of different meds before I found one which suited my needs. Do you think it's worth trying an alternative?
However I think as others do that you are doing a fab job. A baby and a 5 yr old is hard work, look at what you do for all these people in your life. They love you and to them you are the most important person they know, that's a major thing and you should take credit in the fact that these people love and adore you. It's easy for us to sit here and offer words of encouragement, but to someone feeling low that's all they are is 'words' that's why therapy in whatever form is going to help you start believing those words and believing in your abilities. Lots of hand holding from us all on the October bus. It's good that you feel you can tell us how your thoughts and feelings. I always found talking to those close to me more difficult than talking to strangers. Thinking of you.

Good Luck tucking, shooting and untitled. I look forward to hearing about babies later on.

Feminist I totally understand you feel like you'll be pg forever, luckily for you I can def vouch ( as I felt like that too) that you won't! You will have that baby with you very very soon. I am still relieved to not be pg anymore., those last two weeks were a killer for me.

I'm desperate for my first post c section poo, I'm literally having to clamp my bum cheeks together sorry tmi my dignity has completely left the building in recent days, however I have a very whingy baby in my arms asleep and I fear if I put her down she will stir and cry....the thought of shitting myself is more appealing than having to soothe her again for the millionth time tonight.

tucking! You are breaking ranks and leaving me (as I expected) as the last 13 ther on the bus! -gives stern glare-
Seriously though, good luck! Hope you made it to the hospital! Also good luck to shooting, untitled and orange.
Falcon, recognising the problem and seeking help early is very important and you have done this already, so think about it as being the start of your recovery.
GT Explosive poos! What fun, I remember quite a few 'baby in bath, clothes in bin' incidents with DS!

Breakfast this morning= 1x pineapple and 1x pot of raspberry leaf tea. I'm maxing out the potential of this full moon!
Get practising your moon dance sanjifar!
Falcon sending you lots of love and hope your gp is helpful today. And like the others have said, you're doing great and already on top of this by realising and admitting how you're feeling. Xxx

Update....
Having been having what I think are painful contractions all night I am 1cm dilated!! Slightly disappointing! Dr coming back at 10 to see profess and discuss options. Baby is also back to back which he seems to think is bad for me. Will keep you posted. Please send dilating thoughts!

Good luck shooting. You'll have your baby soon. Come on stubborn cervix! Xx

Hi ladies, I have never really got round to posting properly on this thread but have enjoyed reading it over the last few days. What a lovely supportive bunch you are! Congratulations on all the new babies. I was due too on the 13th, can I join you sanjifar? Ditto the full moon thing, I have a midwife friend who Said the same. I am so fed up now of waiting, have tried everything, poor dh is exhausted and my two boysi come bounding in every morning with "has the baby come?" I ca'nt bear the disappointment on their faces.

Whoops, here' hoping the moon will help the last of us deliver babes tonight.
Good luck tucking and others swil.

Thanks legally and thankyou for all your breastfeeding advice to everyone Ive started looking back through for your posts when I have a question

Hope you got to go flyer... and feel better for it.

shooting dont be disheartened by the 1cm. Isla was back to back for the start if my labour but turned and then went from 3-10cm in 1hr. if youve got the energy try positions on all fours or standing legs apart and leaning on a table/chair. Otherwise just rest. Hope all kicks off for you xx

Hope your breakfast works ready !

Rox and Oddlife: make that triplets. My DS was also born on 3/10 and is exactly like yours re: the sleeping!

Morning all - what was the abbreviation for being at home with the baby?!

C has fed like a complete trooper all night, not a hint of needing to express

My boobs are now very sore due to a poor latch i think, so i will get some help with that today when the MW comes.

Thanks for the mat pad and bf advice.

Hope tucking got to hospital on time! And good luck shooting.

mrsHN HWB? Would that work?

I've got bf lady coming to help me get Isaac latched without shield. He can do it but its too shallow and I was in agony the other day. Shields are much more comfortable

Sending dilating thoughts shooting!

My abbreviation today is SIFH stands for still in fucking hospital

Dying to leave and they are saying Monday probably that means nearly a week long stay, I'm in my own room bored and sooo tired! Had melt down at 130am on midwife as Alex was crying non stop, I'd fed her, changed her, cuddled her did skin to skin and nothing was working. I buzzed mw and burst into floods of tears the shame she was lovely and took pity on me ( she's been on last few nights and knew I'd had a total of 4 hours sleep over two nights)
She took Alex off from 1.30-530am to allow me some sleep. She is my new best friend.

Good Luck shooting.

I'm really excited to hear about all the weekend/full moon baby news come Rolling in.

DP announced last night at 930pm "I'm off as I'm totally shattered I only had 6 hours sleep" yes I wanted to rip his face off

Also MrsH sending you nipple soothing vibes, my nipples feel like Jaws has been chewing on them, latch is obviously wrong.

flyer men are pretty special.....mine said last night when we were out for a walk and I had to stop occasionally for massive bh that he'd like baby to be born now because (and I quote) this pregnancy is getting boring and its hard work (yes he meant for him!) and he'd rather it was hard work with something to show for it. So supportive. I decided no response was the best policy! Glad you got some rest last night in the end. Heading out for a swim, must remember towel that actually fits around me this time . Had a slightly embarrassing episode last wk with my usual towel when getting out of shower! It does not in any way cover me up any more!

My dp is being quite annoying too. I know he's been back at work this week and he works hard, 36 hrs over 3 days, but he's also feeling quite run down, a bit sniffly and has lots of mouth ulcers so I do feel for him but my god is he winging about it!!! I'm tired too, having looked after H 24/7 all week. Obviously I love that, but I'm not complaining. its also been hard because I feel like I've spent all week bonding with H and learning how he likes things done and dp doesn't quite get it. when he was up with him last night he kept putting him back down before he was ready then getting annoyed that he was waking up again!! I just took over in the end!!
sorry, rant over. Love dp really!!

Men fucking men dp said he'd be hear at 1030am, promised he'd take over today so I could have a small sleep. A phone call from him just telling me he has more work come in and has to tend it to as it's his main client. Cue major crying episode and then him using the old trick "I'm doing this for us and our baby so we can have nice things" I don't want nice things I want you to be here, I'm tired, Alone and need support as I've had a c section and am limited to what I can do movement wise. Twat! Sorry rant over.

Oh flyer that's rubbish. Have you got anyone else who could come in and give you a hand. Just someone to watch A while you go to the toilet and have a shower would help.

Men just don't get it sometimes. I remember when I was 8 months pregnant with my first, someone asked me how the pregnancy had been. My DH said "not too bad really". I had to point out he wasn't the one who was pregnant, exhausted, had been vomiting for 3 months and now was starting to get very uncomfortable. . At least he had the grace to apologise!

sorry some of you are having problems with dh's/p's

I have to say mine has been fantastic..... this time!!!! It's been a learned process though, and until our 4th baby i would say that he was pretty crap tbh.

This time, he is almost doing too much, telling everyone How wonderful I am and boasting to all and sundry about how good dd has been so far, and going out of his way to try to help with school runs, popping to the shop etc.... (it is starting to get on my nerves! - but at the same time I think Why shouldn't he!!)

oddlife and doobeedee, Ailla is a 4th October baby - but still one of the triplets clearly!

DH has just popped out and bought some infacol so I will give that a try later. Took me ages to put her down (on my tummy) last night as she was constantly feeding but then squirming around during/after each feed, until eventually she released a belch and a couple of sharts.

Ailla wees regularly, but her poos seem to be small and infrequent. Should I be concerned?

Speaking of DH's, mine is being really good. He doesn't like me to do anything around the house (because I am doing something he can't - bfing) but I don't like having people run around after me. I get worried that he'll get fed up of it all and will get depressed or irritated and will be unhappy. He assures me he is fine, but I am a worrier!

My FH upset me today. Ill come to it in a min. But in hospital he kept using our first son as an excuse for not coming in. This would work IF we didn't live with PIL. If my dad wasn't off work. If sil was not on 24/7 call to us. He was like ill give him his breakfast then come in... 3 hours later anyway it's something I'm still upset about. N still need to get it out of my system by letting rip at him.

Today. I had midwife app at 10.30. Reminded him lAst night. Can't your mum take you? No she fucking can't. She has to look after our 1st son, you have a day off, you will take us.
This morning call him to wake him, no answer. So resort to calling his mum to wake him. Finally speak to him. Sort put timings.
10.22, I get a call. Oh I fell asleep. So while mum runs around getting ready I lay rip at him. He was also meant to drop some bits off to me. He assured me he would be here by 12. Well I ain't had a txt or call to say I've got tied up. I'm so FUCKING ANGRY AT HIM.

Flyer in know exactly how you feel when you're stuck there, you rely so much on them being there when they say they will and when they're not it's so disappointing and worrying. DH's concept of time and lateness has always been somewhat elastic, they just don't understand that it's the company and their presence that is required, not necessarily any actual assistance. I asked DH for some company during a feed last night but he just lay there and dozed rather than actually sit up with me for a few minutes.

C is another one with a death grip jaw - just seen the MW who said that, given that his latch is so strong (albeit wonky) that I could try a bottle for a feed and just stop it if on the next breastfeed he seemed fussy. That will give my boobs a chance to recover from one or two quite painful little blisters :(