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October 2013 - Operation Baby Eviction

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MrsHoratioNelson · 26/09/2013 12:28

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Key:
SC - still cooking (pre EDD)
SFW - still f*ing waiting (post EDD)
OWT - on way to theatre (CS)
IP - induction in progress
SWIL - somewhere in labour
LIT -lost in transition

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Sanjifair · 29/09/2013 17:46

PS good luck favellio!!!

moonblues · 29/09/2013 17:55

Congratulations littleducks and good luck favelio!

claphammama · 29/09/2013 18:08

We've just bought an advent calendar in Fortnum and Mason... yes, in September... I realise it's sad and a clear indication of my middle aged status... DP stopped me from buying Christmas decoration but I had a good browse... in September... OMG

favellio and cherry good luck! looking forward to your news!

umlauf really hope BF will take off for you now that you are home and more relaxed. But, as everyone else has already said, you've made so much effort and it's hard for many people, doesn't work for some. Don't beat yourself up about it and don't get depressed about it. I know it's easier said than done and many of us would be similarly emotional about it, but you are trying so hard and it's all you can do. At some point your stress and Bertie not feeding enough may mean that you have to move on and it's going to be OK. Hope it works out though - good luck xx

smitten Shock at your mum... so insensitive. Whatever she thinks about the name, she should also realise that obviously you must love it if you consider it for your baby. Both my mum and MIL didn't like the name we chose for DS1 but laughing and ridiculing the name you like is not right... ignore them! I love Felix - it's one of my favourite names and I also considered it but DP vetoed it. We are not telling our chosen name to anyone, for this reason. They will just have to accept it. I've only shared it on this thread.

My yoga breathing tip is to breathe slowly and deeply into the pain, rather than away from the pain. And my yoga practice involves deep thoracic breathing which is breathing in and out through the nose into the chest, not stomach. So many techniques out there...

OrangeBlossom2 · 29/09/2013 18:10

Good luck favellio I hope things progress at a good pace for you.

umlauf I second asking them to check for tongue tie, they missed it on my goddaughter and after a second check and a little snip a few days after birth things improved greatly (she was jaundiced, not feeding well and giving my best friend sore nipples). Talking to someone about it at work, they said they knew three people at st George's who had tongue ties that were missed at the initial check recently.

I am sure no one here thinks you are a chav or will judge you if you choose formula. You have to choose what is right for you. For me it is something I really want to do though and have asked DH not to suggest formula if things are tough as it will be hard to say no or make me feel worse/like that is what he wants me to do and what I want is support to make it work.

claphammama · 29/09/2013 18:16

also forgot to add falcon so sorry BFing didn't work out for you but hats off to you for trying so hard xx

chickieno1 · 29/09/2013 18:55

Congrats littleducks

Good luck favellio and cherry

Hugs to umlauf xx

roofio87 · 29/09/2013 18:59

Evening all. just back from the hospital here, had reduced movements today, more that they have been much smaller and more constricted than normal. baby roofio is normally so active so this was weird. all very quiet on monitor for first half hour then he went crazy moving like mad so they were happy. lots of regular bh still too. antenatal ward was virtually empty so was in and out and car park barrier was broken so we didn't have to pay so all in all a good trip!!

OrangeBlossom2 · 29/09/2013 19:06

Glad all ok with baby roofio. Smile

Umlauf · 29/09/2013 19:12

Thanks ladies, especially the video poster on FB whose mn name I don't know!!! I asked a few different ppl to check for tongue tie be ause I've read on mn about it being a reason feeding goes badly but they said he was fine, I'll ask again at his first paediatrician appointment.

The good news is expressing is getting much easier now that my milk is on the way so I have something to feed him. Watching the latch video I was copying the technique but he just won't suck. We have the medela bottle that's meant to mimic a nipple and he won't take that either! only syringe or normal bottle teat.

I don't have much of a problem personally with switching to formula (although really really wanted at least a month of bf to give him the start) but Ive just come across so much judgment already, I do care what people think of me and it hurts. I know he'd be fine but I want to avoid the horrible comments. (My mum is mean - think Bridget jones' mum in the films!)

Feeling a bit happier now we've had a walk and I've managed a good expressing session! Don't know where I'd be without you guys!

Flyer747 · 29/09/2013 19:13

Umlauf please don't beat yourself up about bf, you sound as if you are trying your hardest if its not working out for you and Bertie and its getting you upset and stressed then you have to do what's right for you and your baby, no one should ever judge a parents decision over something as important as bf/ff. I also love the fact that you were sat chilling reading Grazia mag in labour Grin oh so glam and v beckham.

Been out at friends all day, totally shattered now.

Glad all ok Roofio, ormskirk sounds quieter than the women's usual waiting time is 4 hours Shock

Clapham glad you have you house back to yourself now, and no more game shows to endure. Grin

Good Luck to those having inductions or c sections.

Congrats Littleducks Thanks

JellyCurls · 29/09/2013 19:22

Ok wise ladies, I have a question for you. I twisted in supermarket earlier and have really hurt my back, I can't bend and can barely twist. Paracetamol not doing anything and neither is heat from water bottle. Going for a bath to try ease but wonder what else can I do or take. And how the heck will I manage if baby decides to arrive tonight!!!

JellyCurls · 29/09/2013 19:33

Umlauf been thinking about the breast feeding. Can Bertie suck your pinkie if you put it in his mouth, is it a strong suck reflex? Also is the roof of his mouth quite high and arched. DD had no suckle instinct at birth and had to be taught by inserting things in her mouth then taking them back out. Also DD and DS have very high arched palettes so really struggled to make the vacuum needed to feed.

MrsHoratioNelson · 29/09/2013 19:59

Another one with a question here - is anyone else finding that baby is now so tightly packed that its difficult to tell what's BH and what's just baby fighting for space? Baby plenty active but seems pretty clearly uncomfortable. My bump is still quite small judging by some of your pictures and it just feels so taught and tight all the time.

Sorry I can't answer yours in return Jelly, make sure you rest up. A bath sounds like a good idea.

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monkeytree · 29/09/2013 20:11

Sorry Jelly cant think of anything apart from a massage to relax any tightened muscles in that area. I think it's apply heat for muscles, cold for joints but not medically trained and would not like to advise in terms of treatment for pregnant ladies and their unborn babies. Do you have a physio based at your local maternity hospital? We have one here and I have heard they have helped a lot of ladies.

Clapham You should give yourself a huge pat on the back. I refused to have my SIL stay over this Summer for the very difficulties you have stated. Now at nearly the age of 40 I am learning to be selfish having always put others first.

I am now very obnoxious in this pregnancy and snapped at my mother on the phone tonight.

My extended family situation is a mess if it makes you feel any better. I have no in laws (or outlaws as I like to call them) both died young due to smoking related illness. My one sister in law is a recovering alcoholic and lives 200 miles away. My father is estranged (for past 6 years) nasty piece of work - physically and emotionally abusive. My one brother takes after him and I try not to meet up with him apart from mutually swapping birthday cards for our children. My other brother is completely dominated by controlling sister in law. I have lived in this house for 2 years and my sister in law has never visited once in all this time all she cares about is herself. I do like this brother very much and would spend more time with him if I could.

Mother rings up tonight (after two weeks) complaining that she is tired because she has been baby sitting my nieces and nephews. Lives 30 minutes away in the car but might as well be the other side of the country to me - never once offered to help with DD etc. since pregnancy but said she would do more if she lived on the door step! I snapped tonight and suggested that perhaps she ring back when she is feeling less tired (continuous yawning by mother down the phone). She eventually asked me how I was! I started saying how difficult things were without much support (directed at her not DH who is v. supportive) and we then quickly ended the call (call not headed in a very good direction by this point).

All this makes me slightly resentful/envious of other supportive family situations but it does make me strong too and I do feel somewhat empowered.

My immediate family DH and DD are wonderful and I make every effort to be there for DD in any way I can. So far we have a really close relationship, something I can't say I had with my own mother.

Sorry about the long rant but feeling very sensitive to things at the moment.

Shirehobbit · 29/09/2013 20:15

Sometimes heat can make strain-like injuries worse (aiding swelling/inflammation) - have you tried ice, Jelly?

Shirehobbit · 29/09/2013 20:24

xpost Monkey - I'm not estranged from my family, but it's complicated. So, I do understand a bit about doing this alone x

Related to Jelly's back, my cocyx is killing me Blush I'm perched on the gym ball as it's the only place I can get comfy. Any tips? Don't know why it hurts, either.

(PS my new Kindle is awesome, baby can definitely SC a while longer Grin )

OrangeBlossom2 · 29/09/2013 20:26

Sorry jelly no advice, I hope you feel better soon though.

MrsHN yes sometimes baby seems to press almost everywhere at once and it feels like BH. Though usually it is harder in one place if it is the baby and baby bum is high up, BH usually particularly tight belly button and below on me.

I am exhausted after shopping, making two massive chocolate cakes and washing and ironing all the baby's bedding today. I think it will be a one off, I never iron! Also saw my sister for a bit, we are babysitting their goldfish while they are between houses. Travel lodge for them this time - this close to baby arriving we couldn't offer them a place to stay. Achey back so have broken DHs back to back baby spinning rule and am sitting back in a chair with my feet up instead of on my ball.

Anyone who needs more bedding, I don't recommend mothercare cellular blankets at all. They have frayed at the edges after their first wash before the baby ever uses them.

OrangeBlossom2 · 29/09/2013 20:29

Shire my physio reccomended ice for my coccyx, heat for the rest of my pgp. I don't know why. Also a coccyx cushion or make one by cutting a bit out of a foam pad. I bought this one

ImpOfDarkness · 29/09/2013 20:36

DP has just got off the phone to his parents, who are STILL trying to invite themselves for a month just before Xmas... fortunately DP could tell I was pissed off and managed to persuade them to go and stay with other family for part of the time, but we'll probably still have them for two weeks. FFS...

favellio · 29/09/2013 20:37

induction is boring!! been here since 2.30pm. had the gel at 3.30pm and although I feel uncomfortable, no contractions. just waiting to go back on the monitor at 9.30pm and hopefully if the trace is ok then I can go home for a few hours and have the drip tomorrow x

Mnippy · 29/09/2013 20:41

Good advice orange. My SIL recommended white company satin edged ones and they feel v nice after washing, albeit a bit of an 'investment'!

chickieno1 · 29/09/2013 20:43

That's frustrating about your mum monkey. I guess it is shaping your relationship with your own dd in a positive way but still hurts. I'm sure at this late stage in pregnancy we re all feeling sensitive about different things Flowers

Sorry jelly no advice but hope you feel better soon. Did bath help?

Glad baby moving ok now roofio. Maybe a sign things are about to start??

clapham yay for house back to yourself!! I can soooo relate to all you're saying. What pata shape did you go for? And what sauce/dressing? Maybe flyer will send you a pressie of her suggested shape :)

umlauf quick question, are you using a strong perfume or body lotion? If so maybe hold off for a while as can interfere with baby smelling you and your milk etc? Good that expressing is ok for you. Maybe try kellymom website for any tips?? Flowers

Hope all the new mums are doing ok xx

Tarlia · 29/09/2013 20:44

Good luck to those in progress or awaiting CS/inductions tomorrow. Sorry names evade me as I've been reading on and off all day.

roo so glad baby is ok!

umla I'm so glad you are at home.Really can't have been fun or relaxing while on a ward. If I were you I'd spend a few days hibernating in bed topless with Bertie just in a nappy. Whether this helps in the end or not, it's so lovely to stroke that brand new soft skin and great for bonding. Please don't beat yourself up about this as even if you do ff you have really tried and have given B a great start by expressing the colostrum.

Clapham did you make pasta? What did you have? I get privatly grumpy with guests at the best of times, let alone when heavily preg! I cannot believe you bought an advent in September!! whispers which sort is it?

Jelly have you tried cold too? Alternating hot and cold sort of shocks it. Isn't ibuprofen ok to take at later stages too? I'd call and check if I were you as this may really help.

CS question- today is day 10. Under my wound is all hard most of the way across. I'm hoping this is scar tissue knitting together?? It looks fine from the outside, was even looked at by the gyne last night.

My Bp is out of control :( Going to speak to my own GP tomorrow, I'm really not happy about it. I think my urine output is down again too. Sigh. I really thought like last time giving birth would resolve all this! It's pretty depressing as combined with still having the SPD and the CS pain, I might as well still be preg!

chickieno1 · 29/09/2013 20:47

And orange agree re mothercare. Used them a lot before ds was born three yers ago but just not impressed with the overall lifespan of the stuff. Doesn't look great now when got it out. All the other stuff not bad now esp john Lewis but even the primark, tk max, boots stuff is better than mc!!

OrangeBlossom2 · 29/09/2013 20:50

Thanks Tarlia

Mnippy I might invest in some nicer blankets if we end up using them much.

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