graduates of the wine-and-shagging-after-mc thread come hither!

[wilderumpus]

Seeing as practically all of us have now got pg, here is a new home for all of us to come to carry on chatting after getting the BFP after our mcs. Today we are pregnant! :)

i'm too scared to go to an nct sale for the reasons you describe ice! volunteering does seem like a good idea, i will try and do that when i move to make new friends. Sounds like a pain being between friendship groups atm.

aw it must be sooooo annoying people saying about 4 kids, and expecting you to be disappointed with another boy :( my DS is nearly three and thomas obsessed too. well, more fireman sam these days

sheldon I had some dried apricots in my bag for light headed moments yesterday while out and felt my blood sugar going... ate one, ate another... nothing. Ate about ten and was still shakiing so scoffed a snickers which then happily got me through my lengthy MW appt! Like ice I really think once that weird shaky light headedness starts (out of nowhere) nothing but hard refined sugar will do! I am going to get some digestives for my back methinks.

we went out for dinner last night and I ate way too much and couldn't sleep for indigestion! And today I am shattered. eek!

I have a thing for soup and pineapple. (not together) I am not sure about the rules are re: pineapple but have had to give in anyway.

oh god, my boobs have started leaking

eek get thee some pads asap!

So, I will be pleased, when I look back on this, but I have had an evening of the worst nauseau so far, still luckily no vomitting, and my digestion, um, "issues", have not ended there these last two days. And I should not eat but instead I am about to go and get some chinese noodles.

I was just visiting with a friend who had two lovely home births, I'm really torn. I would prefer it really and she was reassuring, having done it in my area, that I'm super close to the hospital... but I don't know enough to ease my fears yet.

I also love big pants. They work and don't shift in unwelcome ways.

Ice, goodness, you posted that midday, were you at work?

Wild and Sheldonella I've also taken to eating snickers bars and have a two pack in my bag. I agree with you Wild, once the shaky sweaty dizzy stuff starts for me I just need the hard stuff!

Hope you're all well!

i need some big pants. where can i buy them?!

i have had food poisoning! better now but utterly wiped out like i have flu; so so glad is the weekend as DH is doing everything :) bleugh.

ice my boobs started leaking when i was out for my first pub session after having DS. forgot my pads and when you dry the patches under the dryer they stain. oh dear, the glamour! I drank my way thru the shame.

snickers all round then, they are my fav too. Generally don't make it into my handbag tho!

Sorry about the food poisoning Wilde, not good. Hope you Re feeling better today?

Had our NNS yesterday - started working at 7.30 came home at 4.30! Absolutely cream-cracker ed. managed to get travel cot, brio train track, and cloth nappies for my cousin. No bumbo as apparently they have to have safety straps now, which I think kind of defeats the design of a bumbo?

When pg With DS1, about 34wks, DH and I went to Norfolk for long weekend. Sat at dinner in lovely posh restaurant, DH says something g really sweet, then laughs and points to my boobs. 2p sized wet patches over nipples where hormonal reaction to his romantic words had caused me to start leaking. Was mortified, and spent rest of evening with hands across chest. Not very romantic body language!! It's happened earlier and earlier with each pg .

Right, off to cook lunch for 10 people, provided DS2 returns from skateboard party in one piece... Enjoy rest of weekend all!

lunch for 10! how lovely!

apparently bumbos are all dangerous now as children keep toppling out of them face first? I also read that it is mostly dangerous because people put their kids on the table in them and they fall out. (!)

What's NNS? The NCT thing I presume?! well done on your haul, I am impressed!

Do people realy tip stuff into a bag and then go and rifle through it in a corner? really? That would make me realllllly angry. Is it normal?

am much better now thanks! back to work, hurrah I do have a maccy dees order in for lunch though as it is literally the only thing in the whole world I want to eat. everything else makes me feel a bit pukesome still. Anm starving but I can't face anything in my house, not chocolate, not crisps, not toast. nada.

Posting from bed so will b short. am feeling terrible! Totally sick and exhausted. Possibly because of late night & late dinner on Friday (friends 40th), then early start on sat for work. Ate a bag of chocolate buttons and puked it up. Thought the nausea was going .
I read about your sickness yesterday, wild - feeling very sympathetic & wondering if we are going through some kind of symbiotic experience!!

well done at your nns, ice, I want to go to one!can't believe that about bumbos - we have one in cellar though both DDs just climbed out of it (they were lil monkeys). Never a head issue though!
Bad luck about the leaking boobs - never had it before baby comes (yet)....

Urgh wild I am with you on not stomaching anything - had a bit of watercress soup earlier but that's it. Hungry but daren't touch the snickers in the fridge yet in case vomiting ensues!

Oh the glamour! Hello to everyone else will write more when not on annoying phone!

Big pants? I get mine from M&S!

Ugh, sorry to hear about the food poisoning Wild, what caused it?

Ice, you have my sympathies re leaking!

I somehow missed the bumbos bit of the thread will have to look out how to avoid dropping baby on its head!

Boo uff, how are you feeling now? I was in bed all day yesterday from the evening preceeding it. I read that the way to manage it was rest and avoiding work and stress... was that written in some other era for some other group of people??? I then googled that fish (boak) and b vitamins can help so I took some supplements last night and this morning and I do feel better - of course it may have passed of its own accord but I have to go back to work tomorrow and couldn't just wait and see! The only thing I could eat was a plain, unadorned baked potato. I actually looked a little slimmer by this morning!

Hope you all have a good evening.

ok M and S it is then, thanks :) I have three pairs of pants that are comfy now, all the rest dig in in odd places (bot the waist) and I do not like it.

poor boo. I hope you have some nice sleep and wake feeling better. Tiredness really sets my sickiness off I find. maybe it's a 10 week thang, i think hormones are crazy at the mo with a double whammy of ours and placenta's.

does anyone else spend their days feeling completely wrecked as if they had a massive bender and didn't get any sleep and sort of feel jittery and weird?! that sort of wired, uber tiredness?! takes me back to uni all-nighters and pro plus days. I just feel a bit weird.

one I gave myself food poisoning making myself some lovely healthy houmous as a snack on friday aft :( Won't ever eat houmous again. I shall just stick to crisps. It must have been that the appliance I used to whizz it all up had been sitting around for a while, some bacteria must have grown in it in that time and, twit that I am, I didn't wash it first.

I feel like complete shit today. I was fine and dandy this morning and cleaned my whole house (after a day of being in DH's care - honestly, he was soooo busy doing house stuff while I groaned around so I am not dissing him - but what is it he DID?!) and got the gammon on in the slow cooker for tea (ug I don't want it any more at all, I think I forgot about the being pg bit when I started using the slow cooker - forgetting that all food choices are utterly arbitrary and fleeting atm and smelling slow cooker food all day might not be nice), then worked my socks off for a few hours and then sort of... died.

anyway. big love chums, lovely sundays all! :)

Morning! I've not been around much this weekend as I have been visiting uni friends and having a good old catchup. One of them is also pregnant and only a month behind me which is nice so there was lots of baby talk :)
I have my 20 week scan tomorrow and have the whole day off. If everything goes to plan we DH and I are going shopping for a moses basket and then I'm going to have my teeny tiny glass of prosecco.
wilde Glad you had a good booking in appointment and have a good mw. It is so nice when they are sensitive to past experience and I hope you get to see her for future appointments. Sorry to hear about the food poisoning too, can't be nice having extra reasons to feel sick. How are you today?
boo The homebirth invitation sounds lovely. I really like the idea of homebirth but a bit scared with this one being my first. I think if this is uncomplicated I would definitely go for a homebirth next time. The tea party idea is lovely. Sorry to hear you have been feeling rubbish too. Hope you are also better today.
one The B vitamin thing is interesting. I'm sure my nausea eased when I started on pregnacare which is full of the stuff.
ice It had never occurred to me that boobs leak whilst still pg. I will be ok the lookout for that!
Thanks for the blood pressure concern all. I'm not too worried as I think the high measurements have always been when I've been stressed. It is a pain that I have to go every two weeks though. The dizziness hasn't happened again but I'm definitely going to carry around some snacks from now on. I go from feel normal to being desperately hungry within minutes so having a bag full of chocolate seems perfectly reasonable to me :D
Oh yes, big pants - M&S full briefs, 3 2 sizes bigger than normal - soooo comfortable.
Have a great day everyone

sheldon 20 week scan! how marvellous! good luck! moses basket too, lovely.

have a homebirth, go ooooooon :)

I have b vits in my pregnacare and feel like death warmed up still.

I have a terrible dilemma ladies, please help me! :( Do you remember me saying about our friends who miscarried a couple of weeks ago? Also due in May? they invited themselves to visit yesterday and Dh is delighted. they live 7 hours away so is a big deal but the area we live in is reet nice so could be coming just to visit the area.. and not us... and not to talk about mc... But I am pg and they don't know! I will be 11 weeks when they visit :( what shall I do? I have tried to talk to Dh about it but he just thinks we keep the pg a secret as we are doing anyway until after the 12 week scan... but i can't keep secrets and will feel like I am lying. How can i commiserate with someone's terrible mc as if we are in the same boat still when i am sat there all pg? and not just a little bit pg, 11 weeks! :( It feels disingenous to me. or am I overreacting?

Should we tell them about our being pg before they come do you think, so they can not come if they want to? or tell them we are pg when they are here (most dreadful option, but what if they find out?) or what if we keep it a secret and they work it out later (aas they will obvs) and think we duped them and were sat here with our wonderful smug secret?

oh no, oh no. I am fretting!

Ok, let me think... If you really don't want to keep it a secret I think telling them in advance would be best. If you did keep it a secret though I'm sure they would be understanding when they did find out. I think if it were me I would probably prefer to know in advance - that way they could postpone if they feel they need more time. I do think it makes a difference that they know you have been through it though. My cousin came to visit me with her baby not long after my mc but I was able to be happy for her as she knew exactly how I felt. I think it gave me a reason to be optimistic IYSWIM.
Sorry, I don't know if that is helpful. Maybe someone else has a better idea...

ah! nns! nearly new sale!

thanks sheldon. i can't really keep it a secret, either I am pg or have some kind of virus - it is clear I am under the weather and generally a bit weird and fat. Spoke to DH and we have decided to call them tonight and say that we are pg but that we are being super secretive about it as we are worried about mc and bricking it about the 12 week scan. I hope this will say to them that we are pg, so I don't have to 'hide' it or deny that part of my life, but also that we are really not flaunting or talking about it because of mc, so we would be very sensitive with them if they did come up.

i don't know if they would still come up tho; it would be very hard on them I think at this stage of the grieving :(

Eugh re the food poisoning wild! And am probably to late to give my opinion but I think your plan sounds good. I would struggle to not say it in those circumstances.

And re the b vit, it's an extra tablet, spa
bigger hit, it's working really well!

Shedonella, hope tomorrow is wonderful, beautiful, gorgeous !!! We will be looking forward to hearing how it, good luck!!!

hello everyone! Still feeling a bit rubbish here but definitely better - have taken a day off work today to recover. I NEVER do this, so I thought - what the hell! And I think I do need to recover. I have a bad cold, so I wonder if that just set my 'morning' sickness off, or whether I had got some other bug. YUK.

Anyway, Good luck with the scan today sheldon hope it goes really well, look forward to hearing about it all later!

wild for what it's worth I thought your plan sounded excellent too. If I was your friend I would want to be told, defo, for all the reasons you said. I think it will totally depend on how she is feeling about it about whether to want to come up or not - I think I would have been fine with that, but I know others wouldn't. I think I would have felt it helpful and encouraging to know that there is life after MC...

yes sheldon I am with you about Homebirth first time - I just didn't want to tempt fate and it would have led to me being less relaxed than more relaxed, as I don't find hospitals stressy places. But everyone is different. I am warming to the idea this time more and more, though I guess I shouldn't get ahead of myself - scan is 9 days away (and counting!). still wondering if there is a baby in there at all.

one I can only eat very plain food - bread, toast, hummus, toffee (!). I am still feeling a bit like that, but we'll see how things go later. I've been on the vits etc but not found that to help. Orange juice is good though, not apple as I usually like. No slimmer here, though, a definite bump is on the way - at least, a flabby one!

Am seeing consultant tomorrow about the threadworms, which are still here, if infrequently . I found that thread on it (in discussions of the day yesterday and today) quite useful just in hearing that others have had them, they really are taboo!! When I am feeling anxious I start to worry that the baby will have some kind of infestation, or worse... sorry TMI!

Hope everyone's well!

boo I really feel for you with the worms :( it must be awful.

good luck today sheldon!

I am ok with food tbh, the problem I have is that I have no energy or werewithal to cook. I want some soup but the thought of making it seems way too complicated and exhausting when normally it really isn't! In fact my favourite most adored food atm is thai. sadly I cannot make thai food, and the jarred stuff won't cut it. It has to be from the restaurant. This is an expensive craving I am not allowed to indulge in! So I spend all day thinking and dreaming about thom kha gai soup with no hope of actually getting any :( oh the sadness.

is anyohne else having heartburn/acid reflux? I had it awfully with DS and am starting to get it again now. this seems early so am trying to ignore it but couldn't last night when I had to sleep propped up on cushions!

we told our friends last night. Is so sad how much sadness our baby makes! Like when I told my closest friends (who did NOT understand why I didn't want them to visit for a weekend of binge drinking so i had to come clean or look rude) they were all tentative and 'are you ok' rather than 'yay! congratulations!' which made me a bit sad. and now we have told someone else and it has made them upset. I don't know if they will visit.

TBH in a way (and this is selfish) it would be easier for me if they didn't as I really feel terrible this week (worse than last week when I thought symptoms were easing off) and hiding that will be so hard, but if I don't then how bloody awful will that be for them?

anyway. obviously they come first, poor chickens. I sooooo hope they get pg again soon!

sorry, here endeth the me, me, me!

wild I am the same re cooking - I can't cook anything, and anyway by the time it's cooked I've gone off it.

I def feel worse this week than last - like you, thought I was feeling better. Spoke too soon! Well done for telling your friends, that must have been hard.

No heartburn/reflux here yet but I am expecting that as soon as the MS goes (if it goes).

Boo, well done for taking the day off. What funny we foods we each find acceptable, palatable! Your orange juice, Wilds craving for restaurant Thai!

I don't have heart burn but do propped up because because of the nausea.

Sorry your news is upsetting others Wild, I had that last time, painful stuff.

Now, I'm on my phone in bed (!) And it's hard to write so I shall stop butwill pop in later hopefully for a sheldonella update!

i go off food too boo. Dh said last night he would cook for me if I could actually tell him something I wanted to eat, which I couldn't! Best I just eat as and when I suppose. I did actually make a thai style mushroom and coconut soup for lunch in the end and watch great british bake off while I didn't feel sick!

boo I hope you feel better soon. being ill and pg is awful, poor you.

I'm back! The scan was wonderful, although took 3 attempts to get everything! She wouldn't turn over so I was sent to eat and drink and dance around the hospital twice. We got there in the end though and everything is looking nice and healthy :) I can't believe how much she has grown and her little face is so lovely. She was moving her lips and looked like she was talking to herself :) Definitely a girl too, the sonographer checked again for us.

We went straight into town afterwards to have a nice lunch (oops, ate parma ham) and do some shopping. Lots of nice things bought - sleepsuits, vests, hats, socks, a little blanket, a duck comforter and a sleep pillow for me.

wilde Sorry your friends are upset, I'm sure once they have had some time to think things through and deal with their upset they will be very happy for you. Hopefully it won't be long until they have some happy news for themselves too. You have inspired me to have thai food tonight. It will be red salmon curry which I will get around to making when I'm done on here :)

one Sorry about your nausea but glad you are resting in bed.

boo Good you have taken the day off, sounds like you deserve it. I hope your consultant can help you tomorrow.

one you inspired me to get to bed. I told DH I was ducking out of bedtime with DS because I was busy. He asked what I was up to to and I said 'growing a heart and brain and eyes and arms and legs and I am exhausted.' nuff said.

hope you feel less nauseous soon chuck.

yayyyyyyyyyyyyy sheldon! how lovely! :) and you have bought things :) please send me some thai

Oops, I'm having a naughty tiny glass of prosecco

Hurrah Sheldon your post was lovely! The scan sounds perfect. Glad you had a nice shopping trip too, and Parma ham & prosecco sound just the ticket!

wild I will have to remember that 'I'm growing a...' speech for next time! Made me laugh.

Thanks for support one and glad you and wild went to bed (not together ) we need all the rest we can get! Speaking of which, I'm off to bed. Night all!

Yay for MiniSheldonella!!!! That was definitely cause for celebration!!!

I'm sorry I petered out last night. OH came home and I got up and had a cup of tea with him. Then he went shopping and I went back to bed. When he came home I got up again for another hour. I was mostly just being comfortable, not even sleeping, just not wishing I was in bed... because I was there!

I didn't feel nauseaus last night and don't this morning. [hsad][hconfused]