graduates of the wine-and-shagging-after-mc thread come hither!

[wilderumpus]

Seeing as practically all of us have now got pg, here is a new home for all of us to come to carry on chatting after getting the BFP after our mcs. Today we are pregnant! :)

Morning all. Well I woke up in the night with horrible heartburn, despite having gaviscon before I went to sleep. Is this what I have to look forward to now? I suppose it is my fault for eating all the fajitas. They were delicious though, I would do it again I think I'm going out in search of bras at lunch time again as I seem to have outgrown all my biggest ones now. I seem to be up to a 36G
boo I hope you threadworm problem has sorted itself out, that must be a nightmare. I guess I have all this to look forward to with impending parenthood! Sorry to hear about your dad too, how sad.
wilde and boo My nausea eased off around then too I think and just turned into indigestion. I read that about the placenta too, makes sense.
wilde The forgetfulness has got me too! I was asked for my address in a shop a couple of weeks ago and started telling them one of my old student addresses. Luckily DH was with me to correct me but I think he thought I had lost my mind :) I have probably posted about this before.
one Don't worry about the woman on the bus, I'm sure she was being weird :) I yelled at a charity collector a few weeks ago who was a little too persistent in trying to stop me. I was so rude, I just don't know where it came from as I'm not usually like that. I'm glad I have a bump now so I can get some sympathy if I shout at anyone else :) Hope your nausea calms down soon - I found cutting back on anything made from wheat helped me.

Wild your unintentional aggression and then leaving it there gave me a real giggle. And Sheldonella did you make those fajitas yourself? And thanks for the tip, will see if I can cut down on wheat. Your descriptions of forgetfulness are funny!

And although I wrote that post I'm not feeling too "poor me", it just felt like the right way to explain it! I read a thread yesterday about pg experiences and laughed so hard I was on the verge of crying! Crazy days!

yeah, I was being really weird one. Am normally the first to apologise even if it was someone elses fault!

I don't like fajitas :( I used to but then I got pregnant!

charity collectors do my head in sheldon. Being approached and talking to strangers on a whim is not something that pleases me. I got that job once you know but turned it down. It was poorly paid, long (cold) hours and was all based on reaching targets which depressed me as I am a big fan of charity but think it is best when NOT done by cajoling people!

sheldon when did you start to feel bumpy? My bloat has deflated but I am putting on weight so am getting nice and fat! I am dreading my weigh in tommorrow as I am a stone and a half overweight! is mad, it crept up while i was stuffing my face as work bribery. Oh well, I would rather be fat with a baby and a phd than without I suppose. Must think of the long game. Will drop off when BFing and then will start triathlon training again when bubs is one. :) Must try not to blurt all that out to the MW tomorrow when she is lecturing me!

ps I don't 'SUPPOSE' I would rather be fat and have a PhD and a baby, I definitely, definitely KNOW!

Thats better, big lunch eaten. I seriously cannot stop eating. I am really counting on breastfeeding helping me lose weight.
one DH made the fajitas, I made guacamole. I usually do all the cooking but I was too tired last night so he stepped up. He is good at it but I am usually too much of a kitchen control freak to let him :)
wilde I just looked fat at first but it sort of looked bumpy at about 12/13 weeks and now at 19 it is huge and very obvious. It makes the rest of me look less fat I think as it is bump shaped but the rest of me is definitely bigger too. I had about an excess stone and a half before I got pg this time.
Oh well, if there is any time we can get away with being a bit fat this is it. I'm determined to enjoy it :)

sheldon I only have small moments of crisis (like tomorrow's weigh in) but that is probably because I have ishoos with weight that since I stopped talking to my mum have actually improved beyond measure (hence being a bit overweight!). I look fine I know this, but always have weighed more than I look like i weigh and worry about what the MWs will say. Otherwise I just think am growing a baby and what will be will be!

Yay for 12/13 weeks then. Not too long to go :) I will start pg yoga then too, and swimming when I don't think I will die of tiredness just from getting to the pool!

Stupid day today. Right from the start.

So far I've managed to trigger the burglar alarm in my own house, confuse the alarm company so much that they sent the police round to check all was well, forget all my numbers and passwords to convince the police I was who I said I was. They asked to see my passport as ID but I posted that off for renewal yesterday. Apparently being pregnant and having no brain doesn't wash when you might be burgling your own house. FFS. What is happening?

Oh and I was an hour early to collect DS3 from nursery for no apparent reason, which they kindly pointed out to me after I complained that I'd been left standing outside for over 20 mins. Luckily they are used to me there.

boo and wilde it's about right for the nausea to be lifting, although it will probably come back if when you over do things. one hang on in there - it does get better, honestly.

wilde was looking back at our Greek holiday photos yesterday avoiding the ironing and I had a definite bump then. Was 11-12 weeks I think. And once I'd eaten my evening meal people were asking me how long I had left...

Thank you for your thoughts on worrying and downs etc. I've decided to get a grip and just get on with things. Well, for the rest of today anyway.

Good luck with the consultant boo and i know what you mean about not taking the medication even if it's offered. still battling nits in this household, SO frustrating. I can recommend the Norwegian formula hand cream - the one where they have the old men on the fishing boats in the middle of a storm?

PS sheldon there is no such thing as too much gaviscon!!!!

Ice poor you ( and many thanks for all the giggles your post gave me!). Today I am laughing like a maniac. I saw a fire meeting point sign that started me off giggling (and left OH looking worridly at me, rightly so) and then we got in the car to the news of that poor blind man tazered by the police who mistook his white stick for a samuri sword. I cannot stop laughing over that (poor man though, only just recovering from two strokes!).

I read that we should be having an extra 300 calories a day. I bought a cake.

We've been talking about a few things we'd need to do before any baby arrives and went to B&Q for some things. I suppose that's made me either manic or happy!

ice I echo one, that is a funny post you poor thing. Are you stressed or is it all baby related?!

glad you are having such a giggly day one! and talking about the baby :) that's lovely! we are starting to sort of talk about the baby more and buy into this whole pg malarky. I can't wait to have my 12 week scan and then I think I might buy a little something for this wean... I can't believe I am actually pregnant!

two more weeks then and I might start to have a bumpy! YEAH.

what week are you now one?

Hi Wild, I'm 7+2.

Guys, I was just reading my due in June thread about all the folks setting up/attending their mw appts and was reconsidering when to call the mw for my own. I'm hesitant to book mw appt because at my last one it was exceptionally painful and felt vicserally wrong when she took the blood, I nearly passed out, I can only say it felt like the blood was being forcefully vacuum sucked backwards out of me, it was awful. I've never had problems with giving blood before. 10 days later my mc started but for the week or so proceeding the mc, so a few days after the mw appt, it felt like I was carrying a stone, a rock instead of a baby, so although it was awful I also wasn't surprised. Somehow I've come to blame that appt. Writing this out I can see it's bonkers to link the two events. But it doesn't help that the mw appt is really just for them and that the only way I benefit is that she then refers me for the scan. Honestly, I would avoid the whole medical establishment if I could, it took me ages to stop bleeding, the whole thing was so awful and the medics weren't any help at all. I keep reminding myself that the reason mortality rates are so low is because of (generally better health and) medical intervention but I really don't want to go!

ice You poor thing, it sounds like one of those days :)
one Can you ask to see a different mw? You might get one anyway, I've had 3 mw appointments at my surgery and never seen the same one twice. Totally understand your feelings though but it is probably time to get it over and done with. I feel the same about my hospital as their refusal to see me when I was miscarrying left me traumatised. Fortunately I'm past the stage I have to use the EPU now. I'm glad you are laughing a lot today though, nice to see you happy :)
Ugh, this day is really dragging on, I want to go home and put my PJs on and eat ice cream

Although I live in a city my surgery only has one mw and she only works part time. She was perfectly pleasant but I know I will want to refuse her taking my blood again and I really don't want to act silly in front of other people in RL!

Anyway, I've been googling this issue and decided to ring the mw out of curiosity. I will be 11 weeks at the time of the next available appt. While they weren't happy with that I am so have taken that appt. I then also cheekily asked if they would still be able to get me in for the 12 week scan (which I def want) ! And also like this I won't have to attend the appt if it all goes pear shaped. (and to return to good humour - why is it that pears get blamed for all the wonky ways in which life can turn?)

Ah one. I am not wanting to have my booking in appt either but for different reasons. I can't imagine she would take blood so badly again? If she does, and you are uncomfortable, then tell her to stop and ask someone else to do it OR say you will come back another day to have it done OR say you will have to done at your surgery and they can send it from there? You do NOT have to give blood when you are uncomfortable. At some point you will but it doesn't have to be her.

Your linking the two doesn't make sense, of course, but it really, really does in our company! My weirdness i more that I love talking about my pg online but am crap at talking about it out aloud, i really don't like it and think I am making it all up and just feel like a faker, like I did when we talked about the last baby but knew it had died. Just a feeling links being pg and talking out loud about it. it makes no sense, but I know it will to you ladies. So you do make sense, one.

You don't have to get into the medical thang at all if you have a private MW btw... they cost £££s though.

is there anything you can do to buffer the feeling that the blood tests will give you? like take a biccy and flask of sweet tea (! no, really!) so you feel you are giving yourself sustenance and comfort straight after and therefore looking after the baby (only in a placebo way of course, there is no way having a blood test would hurt the baby!). Or something. i dunno, it sounds silly but these things can help!

I came over all funny when out walking home with DS and so by the time i got home and cooked dins I practically ate it face down. really, I could have just had a nose bag I am going to start carrying around some biccies or something so it stops happening!

Thanks Wild, Yes, I've since learned that private mw's are out of my league so have gone ahead and booked. I like your idea of the tea/biscuit. Also will look into whether bloods can be taken at my surgery or at least put her off a bit longer!

Did you have a low blood sugar moment? I've had that from time to time. I now have a dried fruit and nuts bag in my bag as I didn't want to keep eating crap in an emergency!

I know what you mean about being happy to talk about it here but not in RL. I don't want to.

Why don't you want your booking in appt?

yes low blood sugar. I do get it quite frequently but today it was just so awful and came on so fast! nuts and raisins sound good. I didn't really have it with DS as I worked from home so was nowhere near as active!

Glad you will be able to say what you want at your appt. My sis has to have blood taken all the time and so we all know our Having Our Blood Taken Rights!

I can't really explain why I don't want the booking-in one! Is definitely to do with the mc. I think it might be that I just don't like talking about the pg out loud! I don't want to talk about it. Which is so weird, because you might think that talking about it would be ace and make it really real. Maybe its part of not wanting to get my hopes up that it is really real and the more people take it seriously the more I will have to as well, and the more I will invest in it and... well that's a long way to fall. It worries me.

On the other hand though my friend up here knows am pg (she has just had her second and saw me through the mc) and she treats me like a proper pg lady! She empathises when I look tired and feeds me up when I feel funny and it is ace because it does make me feel pg in a nice way, not my usual worried/in denial way!

bloody mc, buggers everything up!

today we are pregnant! :)

I felt a bit emotional at my booking in! Just being in the hosp made me well up a little, which was totally unexpected, but I suppose it was linked to the last scan which showed I'd had a mc. Because I had the bloods taken there it was a very professional job and fine, but after I left I went and bought a big marathon, sorry snickers, bar, and wolfed it down in one. It only occurred to me later I might have been making up for the blood sugar loss... or it that just an excuse?! Anyway, one I would second wild's suggestion about tea and a biccy... but also in previous pregnancies I have had bloods taken at many different places, including some drop in health centres (not my usual surgery) which have a specialist bloods section - is that an option for you? Then, like wild says, they just send them to your midwife.

I am both chuckling and sympathising with all your experiences of being preg crazy! It seemed to ring so many bells and yet I don't seem to remember one single example... am definitely rather forgetful with some things just completely slipping my mind. I realised a couple of days ago that I had not received a refund from some shoes I bought back in early Sept and returned, and when I chased it up they told me they had not received them back at the shop (they were mail order). I've lost the post office receipt so thats £80 down the drain. I am sooooo gutted and I have never done anything like that before, it's kept me up the last couple of nights feeling miserable and annoyed with myself about it. Anyway, I have now chalked it up to experience, and am determined not to think about it any longer.

sheldon I couldn't eat spicy food at all last time for awful indigestion. I am not looking forward to the gaviscon phase, but already have some in just in case. I am also hoping for a bump to show soon as at the moment I just look tubby round the middle... groan.

wild I was worried about the weigh in too, as also weigh a surprising amount (I do a lot of sport usually so I think it's the muscle, plus a bit of excess fat!) but they didn't even comment on it. I think as long as your BMI isn't huge they are ok with it.

Reassuring to hear about your nausea lifting at this stage, wild and ice - obviously part of me is worrying about it... but like you sayice, it did return this evening with a vengeance when I was hungry and tired so it's not gone completely.

Thanks for luck and sympathy everyone. I will beat these bloody parasites! Sorry for essay!!

The MW rang this morning having got the message that I wouldn't be coming in until week 11 and made room for me to come in on Haloween week 9. I thought it was fitting, luckily I'm not superstitious! I'm going to go on my own and treat it for what it is, administration, since she will not be taking blood from me, thanks for your help with that everyone. I decided not to tell her that in advance though since she may have taken the opportunity to try to convince/threaten me. I'm very good at standing my ground though calmly and respectfully so long as I'm prepared for the need to. I've been reasonably okish emotionally since the first anxiety hit of discovering I'm pg again - hope I don't dip again after that appt.

And Wild your post reminded me that, annoyingly, it was my booking in appt when the mw said "You are now officially pg". That pissed me off at the time, I was thinking about stupid power dynamics and the medical establishment, but going back to what you said I suppose it will help us to remember that they don't make it real or not real. They just book us in. Last time I went in all vulnerable and expecting support, I will be more defended this time. Yours, Boo's and Ice's* appts must be coming up? I know I keep asking this but I can't hold it in mind, are you all due in May?

Boo I didn't realise your booking in was at the hospital where you mc'd. The system is brutal. That pisses me off on your behalf! (Likewise what happened to you during your mc Sheldonella - I have such a short fuse for this that kind of behaviour!) Hm, I hope I'm not turning into an angry b*hy lady! And that would make me sick too losing £80 like that. Clearly it was just a mistake and not only yours, what has the post office done with the boots!

Ice hope the rest of your day picked up yesterday?

Afternoon all. Ugh, not a good day - went very dizzy and lightheaded at work this morning, called midwife who "didn't know" what it was and then came home to a letter from the hospital about needing fornightly blood pressure checks. Argh! I also had to buy some enormous pants on the way home as I have outgrown all my current ones yet again. They are giant full briefs, quite hilarious really.

Sorry to hear about you booking in anxiety boo, one and wilde. I totally get it. I like the thought of it being just administration one, somehow it sounds more doable. On the blood taking - my hospital has a walk in thing where you just take a ticket and queue up and they do it. Is that an option for you? I had to use it and the nurse taking the blood there was very good, presumably because she does it all day.

Grr on the shoes boo that is really annoying for them to get lost. I have had things get lost in the post before so sympathise.

Right, I'm not technically off sick but working from home, so I'd better get on.

hey all :)

I had my booking in, was absolutely fine. one when they took my blood she asked permission, then asked if it was ok to do now, today. So shows that you do have rights. it is your body after all. Also, when I said yes she was really surprised. needles don't bother me at all and she kept asking if I was really ok. hehe.

ALSO for me, she asked about the dates of my mc's and was so lovely and the first 'professional' person to acknowledge that having 3 mcs in the past year might have been hard for me, rather than dismissing the two 'chemical' pgs and only caring about the BOvum. I hate that they dismiss my other mc's because I still had positive tests, all the excitement and wonderfulness and then the loss. I nearly welled up then and had to get it together.

Anyway, in the end it was really nice. I went in expecting full admin treatment, to be patronised and told I am too fat and drink too much coffee but actually was treated as an intelligent individual (key word 'individual') and actually cared for. yay :)

boo you don't have the reciept for the shoes at all, from the PO?

sheldon how long will those checks go on for - can you ask for one of those BP monitors you keep at home and do it yourself? grrr for you, hope you ok.

one ice is due in Jan I think? Me and Boo are May indeedy.

Ooh, I really got my calculations wrong, thanks for the corrections Wild! And glad to hear you had such a good experience today, I will try to keep an open mind!

Sheldonella, blood pressure issues sounds unpleasant. Can it be serious? Do you feel ok?

Glad you had a good time at booking in, wild. No, no receipt from PO - I have the receipt for the boots, but no boots as they are lost somewhere between my PO and mail order company warehouse. I usually keep my receipts but this coincided with a manic couple of months (I recall that particular day was the start of potty training, plus everything else going on). And my mind is sieve like right now. Breathe.....

one glad you have got the midwife appt sorted.

sheldon sorry to hear about your lightheaded episode. Are you getting enough iron? Try and take it easy - take time off work if necessary! I am determined to listen to my body this time (easier said than done, I know). How many weeks are you now? I know it's annoying about having to go in every 2 weeks but better safe than sorry, like wild says, it is something you can do at home yourself?

I had a call from our homebirth team today. I had said I was thinking about a homebirth, but not sure as had a great experience in the midwife unit last time. Anyway, the woman just called me up, was very nice and said, why don't we book you in for next appt (slightly prematurely, but hey ho) and I can discuss it all then. They do all the appts at home, and have tea parties where you get to meet other home birthers and discuss it all! It sounded really nice, and I have done a bit of reading up and might be swayed... we'll see. Was good to have a nice experience for once!

My SIL guessed I was pg today - she asked DH and he couldn't lie. Felt a bit nervous saying it out loud. Kind of wishing I'd had a scan already, feel like as each week goes past I am more attached to the idea of a baby... 2 weeks today for scan...

also meant to say one the hosp was also the one I had my 2 dds, so lots of happy memories there too, in fact the 2 happiest days of my life, so I can't blame them. It was just that it took me by surprise being sad there.

also thanks for the handcream advice ice - I have tried it (being generally dry of hand, spec in winter)! Sympathies about the nits - have you tried the nitty gritty comb, it is the only one to use imo!!

Reading about homebirth and births in general made me cry this afternoon - blimmin hormones eh? I really really hope this all works out for all of us!

Wow Boo That invitation from your mw re home birth sounded lovely! I'd be interested in hearing more about it if you do go along. And glad the hospital isn't all negative for you, I think I was emotionally trigger happy yesterday and looking for bandwagons, sorry!

boo am soooo envious of your (potential) HB parties! we don't have anything of the sort, no 'HB team' even are just treated like everyone else. boo.

am shattered today and not in the mood for being sahm! poor DS.

boo i know of several friends who've had amazing hbs. Personally they are not for me as I tend to 'give up' just as I reach full dilation and need a good kicking syntocin to get going again!

I like the idea of hb parties - to get to know some other due date babies too? I'm considering doing an NCT refresher course just to get to know some other mums due about the same time. I've found it really quite tricky lonely at times to get to know other kids for DS3 to play with, as I'm always doing school run, shopping, ironing, after school clubs, blah blah blah. And now my older 2 ds have started at a new school I hardly know anyone at the school gates either. I'm not particularly good at introducing myself when not pg, let along with a bloody great bump in the way, and hate the reaction of 'OMG - 4? You must be mad? Are you hoping for a girl?' Have just shut up really. Not good - must make more of an effort for dsx3 sake.

We have our NCT nearly new sale tomorrow - it's the largest in the country and i always help out as used to be on the cttee. Am baking a chocolate tray bake to help feed me the volunteers. Actually have a list of things to purchase this time as we gave so much stuff away last year thinking we wouldn't have another! It's always totally bonkers - and I LOVE it! People queue in the wind and rain for hours to get in first and grab the best bargains! They run in and grab a couple of bags and just tip clothes into them - then run off into a corner to sort through them. I need to get some more train track for DS3 who is T the Tank obsessed - in fact anything related to it will do. And a travel cot. new stand for moses basket. Bumbo. Nappies for my cousin's baby. And I won't spend over £50 on the whole lot - fabUlous as CGH would say on Strictly.

wilde - hurray for a good booking in session. It is real! Today you are pg.

boo - what a bugger about your boots. I read that then immediately thought of the pacapod changing bag I posted back 1st class (without a receipt) that cost something of a new mortgage.... Luckily have just received email saying they've got it. Phew.

sheldon lightheadedness in my pgs means I haven't eaten enough, combined with lower than normal blood pressure. Keep those snacks topped up in your bag - but sometimes a snack of something not good for you is what is needed to immediately boost your system, then some nuts etc on top to sustain it? I've taken to carrying cheerios or mini weetabix round, simply coz ds3 likes them too and they are quite sugar rich for me!

I LOVE enormous pants!