graduates of the wine-and-shagging-after-mc thread come hither!

[wilderumpus]

Seeing as practically all of us have now got pg, here is a new home for all of us to come to carry on chatting after getting the BFP after our mcs. Today we are pregnant! :)

hello all!

Nice to see you back one thanks for your comment about my dad. Really glad you had a relaxing holiday, and are feeling pg symptoms, gotta be a good sign!

wild really glad you made up with DH, god I so know that kind of row! I was brought up in a very vocal family so we are good at rowing! It still upsets me though, specially at the moment when I am pathetic hormonal.

sheldon, ice - re changing bags, I am like wild - just used one I liked (which was a big flowery cath kidston number that goes across my body). I use the skip hop changing mat which I can't recommend enough (room for nappies, wipes and bags, and the whole thing slips easily into other bags or bottom of buggy). The problem with a lot of changing bags is that they are quite bulky and heavy, so you end up carrying around a lot more stuff than you need. Which is fine if you have a buggy, but not great if you are slinging it. I did buy one first time around from TK MAxx so it wasn't full price, but sad to say I didn't use it beyond the first few weeks. I think I used it as a hosp bag second time around. Anyway, I did see some nice ones in TK Maxx recently so worth a look if you are still keen. Also - sheldon I would just get one that you like unless your DH is doing half the childcare, as you'll be using it the bulk of the time.

God, yes sheldon Downton is my guilty pleasure - and I was in floods last night. bloody hell! I was quite shocked that that happened!

I had my booking in appt on Sunday morning. I felt slightly told off my Midwife for admitting I had had a glass of wine (practically my first since bfp!) the night before. She was ever so slightly patronising I thought. I have also been referred to a consultant for my threadworms, and also for having a history of big babies (one 8lb-er, one 10lb-er). Which is all a bit of a pain but on the other hand at least I will get to see people and talk to them and I don't necessarily have to do what they say. I can still choose homebirth if I want, and am wavering over this. I can't decide whether it will be nicer to get away from it all and go into the birthing unit, or do it at home. I am worried if I am at home that I will be thinking of all the jobs I have to do (I know that sounds ridiculous but I know what I am like...). Anyway, I will have to do research.

Liking all your book recommendations. Though - stay away from the Cheryl cole wild it will sap your brain. Though maybe by Christmas the baby will have done that already!

Thanks for the tips boo. It's a Cath Kidston one I have my eye on. I will see if I can see one in a shop. I'm desperate to buy something, definitely will if all is ok with the scan next week. I got the patronising comments from my mw when I said I was drinking 1 normal coffee a day. This isn't even against the guidelines! The same mw told me not to worry about the drinking before I realised I was pg as they even used to tell women to drink in the past to bring down blood pressure. I am considering a glass of wine to celebrate the scan if all is well. I'm definitely having one on my birthday in December too.

Well when I was pg the first time (5 yrs ago) the guidelines were max 2 glasses a week (I think) of alcohol and when the rules changed it was generally seen as nanny state telling women who weren't clever enough to know better to not drink anything as otherwise they would go and get drunk all the time..... incredibly patronising basically. So I don't have any problems with the odd glass - although since MC I have been much more circumspect. I can't believe you mw was snooty about coffee... I think some midwives just like exercising some power!

boo I want cheryl cole to sap my brain, that is the entire point! hehe :)

I have been a total cow and missed a post about your dad :( I hope everything is ok?

bugger the MWs advice! we have MN, we have eyes and can read and indeed, may I say it, we have judgement I drink a filter coffee most days :) and if the scan goes ok tomorrow I am going to have a glass of wine with dinner on Thurs as my friend has just offered to babysit so we can go out for dinner for DH's birthday! WOW! we haven't been out for a meal just the two of us for about a year. very exciting stuff.

so glad you feel better sheldon! that is good news. what shopping did you do, anything exciting?

I went out for an impromptu lunch with my two friends and their toddlers today! To a big mill near us so there is plenty of floor space, high ceilings and big tables - perfect for mums and toddlers! Was just lovely. DS was utterly charming and very 'calm' (not usual toddler psycho) so I actually relaxed.

Don't watch downton! tried to watch the last series but it didn't really suit me. sorry you were all so sad, what happened?! On sunday I am a homeland lass! bloody love that programme :)

absolutely starving. starving, starving. please be a baby in there!

I've got a scan at 3! am frickened!

Good luck Wild, be brave! I have cowarded out and cancelled the scan I had booked for today.

thanks one. and good for you! I want to cancel mine but DH won't let me.

I am in a tizz about the pg, even if it is a denial tizz. And if it is all broken I need to know, don't I. DH says having a scan is a privilige and knowledge is power bla bla (how dare he quote me back at me at such a time!)

Dh took away my sand! And my head was sooooo comfy in there.

doobedooobedoooo.

Thinking about you this afternoon wilde

wilde hope the scan goes well and dh doesn't say I told you so!! like mine would

I need a bit of a slap please ladies. I am keeping myself awake at night worrying about this baby having downs. I had the nuchal scan at 13+6 which is the last possible day, and the NT measured 2.2. What with my age (38.5) the risk came back as a 1:350, the letter stating that 1:250 was considered high risk therefore I wasn't being recalled. with my previous pgs the risk factor has been in the 1000s each time, so now I am slowly convincing myself that we can't be so lucky as to have 4 healthy boys and no4 won't be. Woke dh up in tears at 3.30am. He's told me to book a reassurance scan, and gave me all the blurb about stats and how they are gathered etc and all would be fine. Just can't get it out of my head.

I sympathise with the night worrying ice, I've been doing it too. That risk sounds fine to me (99.7% all is ok?). They check for markers at the 20 week scan too don't they? I'm sure something would have been picked up if there was a problem.

Checking in for Wild's scan results.

Ice I don't really know anything about this, but at my age, 40, I think I have a one in 75 chance. I know much younger people have a one in a thousand chance but if yours is one in 350 (I've never seen the numbers before so am unfamiliar with the layout, am I reading that right?) then it's better than you could hope for???? Please do correct any misunderstanding on my part. This is a worry for me too. And when I was in town earlier all I could think of was how we might spot Down's but look at all the other difficulties a person could have... Anyway, statistically there's nothing saying you can't have four healthy boys, having had three doesn't reduce your chances of having a fourth. Here

I just googled what would be involved and learned that the amnio test can check for actual numbers of chromosomes. Would you consider having that?

(sorry, I'm now finidng different stats re my one in 75!)

(and yes I am hiding out from doing chores in the garden!)

yo ladies. I had my scan and I am apparently still pregnant with an actual baby that wriggles and has a nose and the biggest heartbeat ever :) Hurray and phew-fucking-whee! They can't tell where the bleeding is comning from but told me not to worry.

I just ate my bodyweight in fish and chips to celebrate.

ice I am having fears about disability too. I won't have the tests but am feeling the same about being sure I can't be lucky enough to be pg with another healthy child. I hope it passes for you ice but if it gets worse will you try some relaxation techniques to help you through? Won't do you any good! BUT we understand so if you do want to talk more, do come here and we will try to help you!

DS wanted to say hello to the baby again last night and when I told him he came from an egg he looked at me like I was completely mental and very angrily shouted at me that he DIDN'T pop out of an egg and he is JUST A BOY!

be well peeps

Yay wilde that is great news :) been thinking about you all afternoon! Sounds like the same experience I had - no reason for bleeding found. Hope you can relax a bit now. Had the baby changed lots from last time?

I am more relaxed, thanks sheldon!

seeing it move sort of made it seem more robust and real for some reason?! Like, it must have a brain and things. And it had arm buds and is clearly growing. It is much different to last time - this time you could tell it was a baby; at 7 weeks they are very still, and just a bean-shaped blob with a HB! Nine week it has arm buds, a nose and forehead, back, bum (rump), big strong HB and it moves. Couldn't see its leg bugs but it moved just as we were staring to find them. scamp :) Honestly, I saw bubs and just completely fell in love. That was a heck of a cute baby on that screen

And at 7 weeks it was 9mm, this time it was 25mm! no wonder I have been so hungry :)

I wouldn't be surprised if I have another bleed if I am particularly active but unless it is lots and painful I shall just try to ignore it. Having a good scan at 9 weeks means the mc rate is down to 1-2% so I have to start to try and chill and go with the flow a bit more

Woo! WildBean is well! You are brave and it paid off (and that's a fab stat btw). And great details abou tthe difference between 7 and 9 weeks, it's fascinating stuff the rate at which they are growing!

Oh, and your ds's statement was very cute!

Oh that's lovely :) The movement is lovely isn't it. My DD was playing with the cord at the gender scan. Did you get some pics? I still keep looking at mine.

How far along are you now one?

I have just eaten a huge pile of fajitas and can barely move! Would it be bad to have ice cream?

Hurrah wild so glad scan went well! Great news! What a relief. I have been keeping up with the thread and was crossing fingers for you (for all the good that that does... !) but I've been a bit hectic and no time to post.

ice I have the same worries as you - well, not had the nuchal (or any scan...) yet but I do think 'how can I be so lucky to have another perfectly healthy baby?'. But, there is no rationale in that, there is no reason to think that you won't have another healthy one, and many people have lots and lots of healthy children (I'm thinking large irish families of which I know a few!). Like you and one I am worried about age (I'm 38 too), and yes that does make it more statistically likely but again, women over the ages have had babies late that have been perfectly healthy. Ultimately we all know that if there are any problems, however large or small, we will all be able to deal with it in our own ways. But I do sympathise and share your anxiety. Everything seems worse in the middle of the night too!

wild, one was responding to a msg a while back where I said I was feeling down and thinking about this being my first baby since my Dad died. It will be 2 years on Boxing Day. I really miss him.

I have got my consultant appt through and have been able to change my bloods onto the same day thank goodness, so I don't have to go into hosp every day for a week (slight exaggeration but ykwim). Am slightly nervous about what he's going to say, as if he wants me to take medication I am not sure I want to in case of damage to baby. My GP told me there was 2% chance of causing damage with the main threadworm medication so im not going there. I am coming up to the end of the 6 week cycle and I know I will be so depressed if I find them after that. I've had enough of it and my hands are so chapped and dry from constant washing.

Anyway, apart from all that my nausea seems to be lifting slightly and I seem to have more energy... I hope this isn't a bad sign. I'm 10 weeks tomorrow.
Hope everyone else is doing well.

aw boo good luck with the drs, I so hope you are sorted soon. And thew consultant appt.

So sorry about your Dad, that must be so hard for you x

I think I am feeling a bit better too boo. The tiredness was still shocking at the weekend but this week I have been ok. Not so nauseous, my boobs have calmed down, I have slept really heavily three nights in a row (! yaya), and not bloated any more. Still feel really pg though and am still unreasonably tired. Food issues have calmed down loads, am not really off anything except chicken and back into veg etc. I think at week 10 the placenta starts to kick in so you have a double whammy of hormones for that week? eek!

I am going mental everyone. I think it is preggy brain coupled with PhD which means I have turned into the most absent minded, forgetful person ever. I can't remember my friends names, leave things in shops, can't remember how to cook a meal. I am happy enough at the mo knowing that my son has been fed and clothed (can just about do that) and do my work. Amazingly I can concentrate on my work so think that is where all my brain power is focused!

arf zzzzzzzz.

I know it's only been a short time in the grand scheme of things but I really can't just be this nauseaus so often. I'm grateful that I'm not vomiting, but seriously. Over eat, under eat, doesn't matter. But of course I mostly over eat so I'm fat. And my boobs have started growing out from the sides. I just don't know what to make of that. And last night I was "asleep" on my back and stretched and momentarily felt what was probably my own heart beat coming from my womb-area and couldn't go back to sleep. And I'm tired but no longer have perspective enough to know if it's baby tired or I'm just lazy and should do something about it. And I challenged a woman on the bus yesterday, but in a very strange way. I was sat in the outside seat and she very politely let me know that she was getting off at the next stop. We were ages from the next stop, where I was also getting off but then doubted my knowledge of bus stops so I asked her "such and such stop?", her "Yes", Me: "But that's ages away". Then felt bad for commenting on her desire to get up so early so I smartly said "Oh, alright, I guess you want to get up now, it's my stop too", and walked to the front of the bus, realising that I might have sounded a little unhinged. Just wanted to share.

"I have just eaten a huge pile of fajitas and can barely move! Would it be bad to have ice cream?" Quote of the (yester)day Sheldonella! (and I'm 7+2 and refusing to book a MW appt!)

Boo, I didn't realising you were still struggling with threadowrm, poor you. Hope that appt goes well and leaves you without any added worry. When is it?

Wild, continued admiration for your focus on your work.

one you just sound wonderfully pregnant to me :) tho sorry the nausea is getting you down. Maybe you will find that one little thing that sees you through it soon... some people have to nibble their way through it - I found I had to sip at a hot watery drink (?!) like peppermint tea and that would make it more bearable. Or suck on sweets. or go to bed!

you are probably baby tired. don't worry it will ease up in a few weeks and is SUCH a good sign. You are not lazy or fat, you will have a new bra size soon (if not already?) to accomodate your new 'fullness' at the sides :), and in a few weeks your pot will turn into a bump and all will start to make sense. You are growing a person from scratch and this will make you a bit fat and very tired I am afraid :)

Being a bit weird when talking is quite normal too. I don't know why this happens but it does! Like the other day DH wanted to use the foot stool so I passed it to him but instead of saying 'here you go!' like I meant to, I said 'HERE you go' and it sort of sounded really aggressive. and then the even weirder thing is that I didn't apologise! I just left it the weird aggresion out there, to see what might happen . WHY?! poor bugger.

hugs chuck, is all normal x