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theTramp · 25/09/2012 18:00

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pinkpeony4 · 05/10/2012 13:17

Place marking here too.

Tramp I have a Finn and he is definitely a boy. All the other Finn's I have ever heard of have been boys too so never heard it for a girl. It wasn't common at all when we chose it but has risen slightly in the name stats. It's not nearly as popular as Finlay/Finley though which is definitely in the top 100.

Hope you feel better soon Zoey that is miserable.

Tiddley lucky you having your 20 wk scan on Sunday. I am 19 weeks today & still have 3 weeks until mine

tiddleypompom · 05/10/2012 13:52

An old friend of mine had a Finn, Connor and Mac - they were lovely boys and I never thought it was over-doing the heritage (DH was Irish) TBH. I reckon the naming issues can be over-thought at this stage (not judging, we're the same) - as soon as they are born they seem to 'wear' the name and if a nice child, the name is nice too! We're getting our knickers in a twist re: illiteration (despite my own married name being HH initials), but also avoiding certain names that, with our surname of Hill, sound like places (think Primrose...). I've a friend with a Jack Jones - comedy in theory but cute as buttons in reality.

Thanks pink, I confess to a certain level of anxiety - the name 'anomaly scan' doesn't help! Hoping instead for a lovely peek at further progressed hands and feet. I think I already said (many threads ago) that Shrewsbury hospital charge £50 for finding out gender, so we shall be going without that knowledge!

By the way manda I meant to say, your description of a bumpy eve with DH sounds familiar! From the other responses it appears you are definitely Not Alone! I feel for you though, I have also been embarrassed having a silent and edgy companion in company, and felt envious of the other chilled out couples. Probably we all have our turn in that chair...

theTramp · 05/10/2012 14:23

Pink - for some reason I have always thought of Finn, or Fynn, as a girls name. Your little boy looks adorable and its a great name (Huck Finn - next book day costume maybe?)

My objection isn't the name, is to the Irishness. I actually don't give a stuff really, if I like the name and it suits it'll be grand. But I'm getting a bit fed up with the Irish nationalism that is creeping in to child rearing conversations. Socrates has two parents, one has an English heritage, the other an Irish heritage - both heritages are valid. I am not going to start bending or acquiesing on the issue of one being better or more of a culture than the other - who has a right to say that? Particularly as one is caught up with Catholicism vs Protestantism - which is a bloody ridiculous political conversation dressed up as religion that is tangled up with nationalism (a nationalism I do not share) and comes with a big set of pitfalls that I have NO intention of seeing our child tainted by. Not on your bloody nelly.

Sorry - rant over.

We have til Socs is bron to iron everything out. It'll be fine. We're both easy going and pragmatic, I just need MrM to stop being so anti bloody Englishness.

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Em2010 · 05/10/2012 14:26

Oh tiddly such a shame you're not having twins - you could have Primrose and Notting! Grin

Thanks to manda dh and I might actually have a boys name we agree on- was contemplating Bertie which got me to thinking of other royal names and hey presto - George!

Ds is not himself today, can't quite put my finger on why. As we were leaving playgroup this morning he burst into tears, proper sobs that I've never seen before. Really shook me up to be honest! Am going away this evening - just for the night to help DM. I don't leave ds overnight very often and I'm going to miss him so much!

Well anyway, better get my afternoon kip on the sofa in before ds wakes up!

Em2010 · 05/10/2012 14:31

tramp could you settle your naming issues with something European perhaps (ie from neither English or Irish cultures?) Some of the Scandanavian names are lovely (IMO!)

pinkpeony4 · 05/10/2012 14:42

Tramp My dh is Irish too hence Finn and was like your dh when naming ds1. The next two have non Irish names though so just because one has an Irish name doesn't mean you then have a "theme" for any subsequent Children.

Tiddley I really like alliterative names mine is after marriage! I think they work as long as long as they aren't tongue twisters.

Em I hope you ds is Ok? In need of a nap maybe? My non napping ds2 is always knackered by Friday.

Lexiindisguise · 05/10/2012 16:08

Ems I love Scandinavian names - Freya is my current top girls' name, and I like Johan as well (but the y/j sound confusion gets DH every time!)

Just place marking really - hope everyone is having a good day

tiddleypompom · 05/10/2012 16:12

:o em Also banned is Harry, though I fancied that last time. Turned out his pram buddy mate was called Harry so I was extra glad we didn't.

We used George for DS middle name. Love it!

Hope DS feels better soon - ours is also going through some sort of developmental stage. He's learning to walk, just starting to use words (first word is tractor, typical) and generally has changed over the past fortnight. These skills have coincided with a period of clingy & frustrated behaviour - not 'like' him at all. I suppose growing up is quite bewildering!

It here's a local beer festival here this w/end - oh woe is me, I can't join in :o

theTramp · 05/10/2012 16:40

Oh there's lots of names out there we just need to pick one that's not related to heritage. We both like Inigo and Conrad and there are a couple of others that would be lovely, boys names are way more contentious than girls for somereason. Ultimately when Socs Is born we'll have a name that fits rather than shoe horn our faves I think.

Poor grumpy DS. A nap and a Friday treat maybe.

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zoeymlucas · 05/10/2012 16:49

Em hope your DS is feeling better after his nap and back to his normal self :)
Its weird how you can love a name for a baby and then of gone off it by the next - with DS1 I loved Ben but was so glad I called him Taylor as while he was in special care there was 4 incubators and at one point the other 3 were Ben's!

Both my boys have family middle name of Douglas poor kids but we have decided this ones middle name is Steven after my dad but no one is being told life in RF until he is born :)

Been dosing up on tablets all day as 2 friebds over tonight for takeaway and catch up which will be nice if I can just manage to A) stay awake B) Not be sick and 3) Eat!! DH is taking boys to his sisters so he can catch up with them which is good as its got me out of seeing them again which is always welcome as they are stropping about my policy when baby is born and I am refusing to discuss it - its my choice and my family accept it so they blinking can!!! In short when DS2 was born I couldnt see him for 6 hours as was failed epidural and then GA so all family came in and saw him in special care and then come to tell me about him and show me the pictures they had taken. Which in all honesty broke my heart that everyone saw my baby before me so this time I have ruled NO ONE is to come tot he hospital until I have seen him. As soon as I have seen him they are all welcome to come visit and see him but not before and if they break this they WILL NOT be allowed into special care. DH agrees it was hard for me last time and my family agree with my reasons for this its just his sisters saying they have a right to see baby - UHHHHH not before me you dont!

tiddleypompom · 05/10/2012 16:55

Zoey I can completely understand your view on visiting and how it would be upsetting to feel that you were way down the list of those seeing your baby. I hope this time is easier for you & no ga for a start!

zoeymlucas · 05/10/2012 17:05

I think last time I didnt really think about it so it just happened and when it did it was awful so this time I know how it will be and am letting people know early - my mum and family totally understand but his sisters say they have 'a right to see him' and yes they can see him after I have and not before - its not a discussion or debate with them thats whats happening :)

backwardpossom · 05/10/2012 18:21

Hi all, that's work over for another week and I'm 18 weeks today. Could do with a bit of a rant about work, but think I'll hold it in for now! Am so tired though, and I have LOADS I need to do before maternity leave! Will try and catch up in a bit, hope you're all well. I can't stop eating at the moment! x

Em2010 · 05/10/2012 18:29

Just sitting on an extremely bumpy train down to Stevenage so my message may be rather wonky!

zoey I completely understand where you are coming from! Thinks its extremely unreasonable of dh sisters to expect to see baby before you! Tsk! If this one is a boy he will also have the middle name Douglas as it was dh beloved grandfather name. Not ideal but that's why it's a middle name!

tiddly have just giggled at Harry! Though I guess his class mates will never have heard of the comedian so he wouldn't be teased. Ah I feel for you on the beer festival. Have just been offered my complementary glass of wine and would have loved to accept but stayed strong!

Thanks for all your thoughts of ds. He has a bit of a cold at the moment so might have been feeling a bit grotty. He was much happier after his nap although left him bawling at the station Sad I had a tear in my eye too

Well just departed Donnie so journey about to get bouncy again! Ttfn!

backwardpossom · 05/10/2012 18:33

Oh, on the subject of cloth nappies, I got this offer emailed to me today, and I couldn't resist. £4 a nappy! I love the lime green colour Grin www.littlelambnappies.com/special-offers/eight-osfa-nappies-for-only-32

mandasand · 05/10/2012 18:40

Marchers, THANK YOU, to sooo many of you, for sharing your hedgehog-DH tales! Reading them has made me feel so much better! There's always the doubt somewhere in my mind that he's right, and that it's all my fault, etc. And glad I'm not alone in managing this kind of thing! Really heartened by those of you who say they get better at managing situations when they become DFs! Smile

We made up at lunch. We kind of did a bit earlier. I was up till 3am writing my talk for today and fell asleep on the futon in the study. He fetched me in to bed at some unearthly hour but he was still a grump first thing. But I couldn't be *rsed anymore, phoned him at lunch at the time he usually calls me, and just wittered on as usual. This is one thing we do better as time goes on - make up quicker! I've learnt it's not The End of the World each time it happens, which makes things easier!

Goodness me it's been tricky getting through today on 3.5 hours sleep! I was giving a talk at a conference and it went really, really well. Criteria for it going well (1) organiser is much more effusive with you afterwards and immediately tries to get you on board for a publication, (2) it takes 25 mins to deal with the queue of people who want to chat with you in the break afterwards, meaning to can't get to loo or to the tea-queue, and (3) someone in the audience asks you to come and speak at their university. Job well done. I tried to stay on a bit but I was fading fast so did some errands in town and came home, chatted to the decorator who's done a lovely job on the woodwork this week, and slept.

As a result of my errands ... I am now the proud owner of M&S size 18 BIG PANTS!!! I am going up a size a month at this rate, so could go from a 12 to a 26 by the time the babies arrive - cor!

This evening I've got teaching prep for my new OU cohort tomorrow and am trying to gear myself up for cake baking. I always bake a cake, at least for the first tutorial. But I'm shattered! They do nice-ish looking, locally made cakes at the Co-op though ? would it be so bad??? Hmmm?

Hermione will we all be offered a flu jab because of pregnancy? Hope the family reunion goes well tomorrow! Not always easy, these things.

Hope you had good time with MiL today, Three. Mine has been a bit weird with me for past year or so (think I've mentioned before) but now is all over me because of the twins. Nice but ? eek. We're just going to see how it goes. She is desperate for the babies to know her, which is fine and good and understandable, and wants to help out loads before and after birth, which is fine too if she's happy to come 170 miles to stay! But in her last email she was talking about coming for two-week periods!!! I think it's going to be a 'let's see how it goes' situation. She hasn't been to visit since FiL passed away so I've suggested she come down well before xmas to practise the journey and see how well we are getting on. I'm sure it's just a case of managing everyone's expectations. She does respond well to hints, e.g. I suggested that altho she's welcome to come for a night or two soon after I've given birth to meet babies and while I'm in hospital, DH and I will need to spend most of his two weeks of pat. leave together, learning how to cope. She instantly got it. Thank goodness.

Which makes me think Zoey how much I would have hated the situation you were in last time. Seriously, this is your party and you lay down the rules! You can't have that happen again. Glad DH backs you up, but how strange that they just don't seem to get it. Some people don't tell family they are going in till they are ready for the visitations!! That's bold, but I can see it may well work in some situations.

Sheldon yay for your special meal, but boo to the beans! I had a summer pudding when we went out last week and had in mind a sort of fruity crumble. But it was a freezing cold pudding and I just couldn't eat it! Funny trying to go out and eat with pregnancy-appetite, isn't it?! (Love your secretive typing strategy!)

Totally confused about prams after last night's twin evening. The pram we want is a newborn to 4 years, but everyone was going on about needing something else for the first 6 months?which I didn't get. If it's advertised as a newborn can you not use it if you buy the appropriate support things? Hmmm?more research required methinks!

Tramp woohoo for baby stuff day tomorrow! Interesting that the heritage issues seem (reading between the lines - forgive if wrong) to be getting stronger at the mo. Do you think it's because of imminent fatherhood anxieties? Or living in England/sense of dislocation? Totally with you: heritage fine; but not when it gets complicatedly twisted with politics.

Tiddley how can they charge an extra £50 for gender-telling?! The sonographer knows just by looking, surely? I thought authorities who didn't tell might be responding to gender selection preferences within the community ? not in order to get lots of £££! And, yes, you're right - all couples must have nights like that! Boo, pity about the beer fest! DH has once or twice in the last couple of weeks poured me two fingers of his Speckled Hen when he opens a can at home and I feel like a naughty teenager Smile

Woohoo Em, glad to be of service! George is so cute! Awww your poor little man. Probably just tired trying to negotiate the complexities of the world Smile Hope he's all better now. Do little kids talk about stuff that upsets them or just file it way?

Lexi Freya is lovely!

Happy evenings one and all ... and sorry for such a bloomin' essay!

Lexiindisguise · 05/10/2012 19:04

Manda glad you and DH have made up - I also have a hedgehog DH but didn't have time to comment!
zoey I'm amazed your SIL's can't see why this is an issue.
Off to the pub tonight - first time I have been invited pretty much since I made preg announcement so determined to accept. Planning on fish and chips & lots of chats! Hope everyone has a good evening.

HermioneBoo · 05/10/2012 19:20

manda my MW gave me the impression that she wouldn't offer any jabs unless I sought them out, the flu jabs are being given out now so I'd give your Dr's a call and book yourself in. three yes my immune system is terrible at the moment, I've already had a week off work with flu and it was horrible not being able to have anything to alleviate the symptoms. However I work at a uni so flu is rife and I can't take anymore time off sick, ms has already taken up loads of sick time!
zoey your SiL's sound like mine, stick to your guns and they'll get over it, they don't have any right to see the baby before you're ready. Thankfully my MiL has already said that they'll wait for us to ask them to visit, we won't be telling our friends we're home until we're settled either. Our poor friends had another friend come visit them when they'd only just got home! I know he'd do the same to us too so it'll all be hush hush :)

TheAngelshavetheOod · 05/10/2012 19:30

manda newborns have to lay flat and some prams don't.others do but arent as substantial as others.

sheldonella if you do lots of in/out of car then it's handy to have car seat adapters. If you plan to walk more then a carry cot is better.
Remember babies can't be in a car seat for long periods as it affects their growth (saw this in RL, v sad :( )

theTramp · 05/10/2012 19:53

Aw poor DS with cold.

Lexi - enjoy pub & really enjoy the fish & chips ;)

Manda - anxiety no. Oncoming fatherhood perhaps.. I think it may be wrapped up in a realisation that after almost 20 years living in London that what we have here is a man who is a Londoner not a Belfast boy. We've just bought a house, we're having a child together - it's not so much "settling" down (I dislike that phrase, the idea that you've settled for something rather than found what you want) as it is life has it's own momentum. Anyway it'll all be ironed out before Socs arrives - I'm v good at ensuring these things are, no issue to remain thorn like & hidden.

George is a lovely name. Nickname Gorge I hope (as in gorgeous not a geographic feature).

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lannyshrops · 05/10/2012 20:53

You know what, I am amazed at the disparity over the country in antenatal care! From scans, to bloods, to format for MW appointments and don't get me started on the telling of gender issue! Humph! Anyone would think that we dont have any kind of national framework for maternity care....oh sorry..WE DO!!
The one thing I do know is you do need to consider having your flu jabs (if you want them) Flu season started on the 1st of October. With our lowered immunity I would advise it as a health care professional but its up to the individual. I have it every year and I have never had a reaction. Having had the Flu when I was 19, I NEVER want it again and the thought of getting it when pg....urgh! My GP wrote to me inviting me to the clinic to have mine, but I have had it in work. For those who want it and have not heard anything I would pester, the NHS is a creaking old machine which clearly can't always keep up!

I wil get off my soap box now...

TheAngelshavetheOod · 05/10/2012 21:07

I still don't have my prescription form. Need to phone up this week. Hospital don't carry them. Hmm

YYY to the standards of mat care. No NT scan here.

Vivee74 · 05/10/2012 21:09

Manda, re flu jab, i got a letter from my doctor to go for one. When I was there for my 16 week appointment my doc gave it to me then. They very much recommended it. I've had the customary cold for a few days but getting over it now. Doctor also mentioned jan for hopping cough. After having that as a kid I still have the cough to go with it, will definitely be getting the jab.

Hope you get to relax after a busy week. Unfortunately I have a conference all weekend, fun.

FloweryBoots · 05/10/2012 21:16

My word. Catching up took a while. Must admit to reading properly to start, but more recent posts I've only scanned through as my eyes are starting to droop so responses likely to be out of date!

Love the name talk, lots of names I really love that other people are considering but DH always rules out pretty much anything and nothing goes with his (well our flippin surname. Should have persuaded DH t take my name instead of me having his when we married. Grrr. Actually we've not started talking about names really but thrown a few out at him tonight and he says no to everything, just like last time. Zoey, think your boys list is about the same as mine would be if DH could just agree to something and not come up with an utterly rediculous reason why it's not useable. He's also quite boring traditional with names and I prefer something a little less standard.

Rainbow I will be having this one at LGI, but was in London for last one so no real experience. I had appt. to see consultant to go through DS birth (was a bit traumatic and had a few flash backs again when started trying for this one so was having a debrief type thing, just a couple of years late!). Was kept waiting 2 hrs 20 mins and of course worked myself into a right old state in that time. Having said that, when I saw the consultant she was great and really kind and reasuring. She put a plan in place for me including seeing a special support midwife (I know you've seen 'specialist' midwifes before and not found them any help) though I haven't met with her yet (through my own choice, haven't felt the need) further review with the consultatn once they can get my notes from London, and appointments nearer due date with consultant midwife from delivery suite and generally couldn't have been better. My 12 week scan was also good - nice scan woman, spent plenty of time showing us stuff and explaining and took about a million measurements as I disagreed with what midwife thought dates should be (and I was right by scan!). Have heard it is a big busy hospital though and I'm not expecting it to be quite like the lovely birth centre I started in with DS. I've read (on MN) good things about Harrogate. I decided to go with LGI just because for me the shortest possible journey to hospital is big factor as found the very short journey last time bloomin hard so want to keep journey time minimal.

Really admire you going for HB. I always thought I would want that but again it's journies in labour that put me off now. Knowing how hard I found transferring from one unit to another within hospital last time, I just don't fancy the chance of having to transfer to hosp from home if I needed to go in. Sad there aren't any birth centres round here though.

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