March 2013 Mk V: Lumpy bumpy witty knitters (patiently) await the bloom!

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New one marchers sorry on phone and can't link! Will post title in our old thread x

Tramp I think it's called round ligament pain!

Emus when I was pg with dd1 I found if I lay on tummy I felt that type if feeling, but as I said I wasn't sure it was baby until 20wk scan and the feeling happened as I could see baby moving and I think I cried and told midwife I've been feeling that for ages

Manda extra discharge might be down to extra poking around you've been doing iykwim, I'm actually excited for your friend, she's in for a big surprise

Thanks, Tramp. I was young, in my final year at uni and determined not to be a single mum living in a council house - not that there's anything intrinsically wrong with that but it was pretty much a norm where I grew up, I couldn't see any other options and I really wanted to take a different path. What's worse is that my parents - who I told the full story to in a morphine-induced moment of idiocy - went absolutely crazy. Lots of shouting in the hospital, etc. Very anti-abortion, plus Mum had suffered one too many miscarriages to understand how I could possibly make that choice, etc. I had to go home from uni to recover for a couple of months straight after too, and have the joy of younger female cousins being paraded in front of me ("This is what happens when you mess around with boys", etc?!) It was a really tricky and not-nice time from start to finish but thankfully it now seems a lifetime ago.

Just now keen to find out exactly what exactly went wrong during the termination and whether it will impact on this pregnancy (e.g. if it was a perforation during D&C then there's no option but c-section, etc).

I've only just started putting on weight Emus (though I am definitely showing with two) so don't worry too much about that, especially as I read somewhere that you shouldn't put much on till last trimester! But it's an awfully anxious time, isn't it? Time is definitely moving faster for me in this second trimester. Not as much counting down the days now - more like weeks, which is nice. How long is it till your next scan?

Gummi that's very possible! Haha. Will desist, I promise. Will let you all know how it goes with friend, teeheehee...

xx

Gummiberry I can feel this lying down or sitting up! I've read that for your first you are unlikely to feel anything until week 18 onwards.

Suddenly starving so off for some cheese and crackers. Had enough packing for one weekend so going to lay in the sofa and catch up with Downton Abbey - bliss!

Manda what a terrifying situation to find yourself in so young. Hope you get the answers you need so that you can put your mind at rest with this pregnancy.

Slightly envious of you having twins! Twins run in my family and I've been told by several fortune tellers (when I was much younger I was really into having my fortune read) that I would have twins! Mind you, I was also told by one that I would have three pregnancies but no child . I think this is what's behind my deep rooted fear over this pregnancy (even though I don't believe in clairvoyants now!). It's stuck with me.

My 20 week scan is on 23rd October, a day before we fly to Vegas for a friends wedding so I'm worrying about getting bad news a day before we go. When I get back from Vegas I've got a day before I have to go to Barcelona for work. I am toying with going for a private scan just to put my mind at rest - although not sure when I'll find the time!!

Hi everyone, just catching up. I've been taking it easy this weekend and managed not to do too much heavy lifting. I have made a huge pan of brocolli and blue cheese soup though so I feel I've been a bit productive. The anxiety is still here unfortunately - Emus I think I feel the same way as you. I have my midwife appointment tomorrow though so I hope I will get to hear the heartbeat. Is this standard at the 16 week appointment? 16+1 today :)

manda What an ordeal you have been through, I'm glad all is well now. So brave going through that at university too. Your pumpkin lasagne sounds lovely, I have that recipe, must try it.

zoey Sounds like you have been through some scary times too. I hope this time is much easier for you. Sorry to hear about yours and DH granddad.

tramp I've been having that pain, can be quite uncomfortable.

Baby showers - I doubt I will do this as like Hermione I work in male dominated IT and have mostly male friends where I live. My close female friends aren't really into that sort of thing either.

Ok, I had best start thinking about dinner later - duck legs and potato dauphinoise I think.

sheldonella not standard now. It's not 100% guaranteed and some MW / bosses have told MWs not to do it as it may cause worrying.

Sheldonella I have an Angelsounds fetal heat monitor which I got from amazon for about £25 which means I can listen to LO's heartbeat everyday at home. I have been able to hear it since 13 weeks and I have an anterior placenta (which generally makes hearing the heartbeat more difficult). Its the best investment I have ever made and so reassuring.

Vegas emus? That sounds exciting! Will it be a theme wedding?

sheldon that's my favourite soup, once again i'm hungry :)

So my 'flutters' have been shallow, and i've felt them mostly when i've been still. And I only notice because I remember from first pregnancy. i'm 16+1 now so also could be completely making them up in my head.

My other new thrilling feeling, little stabs from my old friend heartburn, already, really? Ow!

Hullo all, I think someone posted earlier asking about hypnobirthing. I have had hypnotherapy before for a chronic health condition and found it very helpful, though like all these things how positive your experience is depends on the practitioner you see. I had been considering hypnobirthing but have decided against, partly because I cannot really afford it with our current circumstances! However I did also read a paper, based on research in Sweden I think, which looked at the impact of different birth preparation courses on whether women needed to have interventions such as c sections, epidurals etc. it found that things like hypnotherapy which focused on mental relaxation/attitude etc. did not lead to a lower rate of interventions but birth preparation courses which taught women how to move and position themselves in labour and birth did lead to fewer interventions. My personal view now is that hypnobirthing would be a non essential but nice to go to classes if money\ time were no object, and I could get into a course led by a midwife/ former midwife. But learning about how to move and position oneself is most important.

Finally may I recommend a brilliant book I have found called the social baby by Lynne Murray and Liz Andrews. Basically it outlines how babies will try to interact and communicate with you, and how you can understand what they are trying to say and how you may be inadvertently pising them off! It does this largely through a series of photos of an interaction between parent and child. It is very easy to read and prob especially good for first time parents. It does only really deal with quite new babies though.

Ow no three not the go awful heartburn - I had so far managed to forget about that, I remember drinking gaviscon straight from the bottle!

On baby showers I am really against them and hate going to them as I would rather buy something when baby is born and see baby rather than a forced party with games- its sooooo not me and thankfully my best friend is the same so wouldn't even need to do her one ever!!!!

So blinking hungry, got a huge leg of lamb in the oven and smells amazing and have done everything roast potatoes, mash, honey roasted carrots and parsnips, seetcorn, stuffing, homemade Yorkshire puddings- just need it to hurry now!!!! Then it's crumble and custard to follow

Have just been for posh afternoon tea & eaten way too much cake. Nice but v bloated now.

Emu - I wish I wasn't putting on weight yet. Everything I've read suggests you shouldn't in first trimester unless you've eaten too much which of course I have. Between the carb only or feel sick and eat or feel sick weeks I've managed to run fast & loose with all nutrition rules. (sigh) Good news is last night I managed a vegie spaghetti bol and no nausea afterwards. Wahoo! A while meal without potato and no nausea. I may try salad on Monday. Anyway don't be worrying about it. Because if you were you'd probably worry about that too. Sods law, devil you do, devil you don't etc.

I'm quite amused by the fortune teller story. The most ridiculous things pop into mind at times don't they. Rational min says - hookum - irrational mind worries. I suspect lack of control is at heart of it all. I've felt like I've had no control over my body for years now. At least with Socrates I know why, oddly I'm finding that reassuring. :)

And I recommend private scan if you are stressing. Best £150 I ever spent and put my mind at ease. Every NHS scan seems to make me worry rather than alleviate fear. I think that's just an all prevailing hospital take away. Even if you have a standard blood teat they make you feel there's something to worry about.

Zoey - despite fact I've eaten so much cake that just the thought of more food your roast, lamb aside, is making my mouth water.

Evening - thanks for all the welcome messages

Randomswitch - thanks for the info on hypno birthing. I've tried a bit of hypnosis in the past (admittedly it was only a Paul Mckenna CD) and it seemed to have quite a good effect. I'll do some more research and post anything I find on here for those who are interested.

Gummi - I'm sorry to hear you have another headache. I completely empathise. I've found my migraine has subsided a bit this weekend and the only thing I have been doing differently is drinking more fluid. Hot drinks seem to help... vimto in particular!

Someone asked about flying. I recently flew to France and the one thing I forgot was how hot planes are until they take off and they turn the air con on. I ended up stripping down to a tiny vest and demanding the air hostess brought me ice as I panicked that I was going to over heat. I was obviously over reacting and everything was fine but I would recommend wearing layers or something just in case you find yourself in the same situation!

I'm also having stretching pains down below. I'm thinking these are normal. I just can't wait to feel the baby moving now.

Three I don think its a themed wedding although anything is possible! It'll be the first time I've been to Vegas, I just hope that me being pregnant doesn't restrict me too much (bar the booze). Already I've had to turn down a hot air balloon trip :-(. Hope that's not the case for a helicopter tour. We'll see. Apparently it's not the best place to visit when you are pregnant.

Tramp I've been eating more which is why I can't understand the weight thing (although I have been much more active than normal due to moving house and all so I suspect that is why). I have no energy to cook anything from scratch at the moment so am envious of all the gorgeous home cooking you lot are doing! Hopefully when we settle in the new place I'll get back on it.

In other news, I cannot wait until Christmas time (13 weeks to go!). It's my absolute favourite time of year. I've loved the rainy weather today :-). Hope it continues to rain as that might help me sleep (yep, still struggling).

Welcome DJH80

Hi all, back in grey York and it's bloody freezing! Haven't caught up properly yet, but just wanted to add that my friend that we stopped with this week has been doing a hypnobirthing course and is due in 8 weeks, so will let you know how she finds it!!! Will catch up soon and do a proper post.

Emu - in which case I'm even more envious of the lack of weight gain!!! Your Vegas trip sounds fantastic btw.

What a bunch of Goddesses we are.. Domestic and otherwise.

Today I took advantage of the awful rainy weather and cooked up a storm. I started with a chicolate cake thn moved onto cheese scones and then after a break to see pals cooked honey glazed gammon (I'm a veggie so this proves serious love for dh today!) and made fresh raspberry filling for my chocolate cake. Feeling a tad smug. Am utterly addicted to lift lemon tea at the moment.

Looked at aqua natal classes today. Not one blinking class in this city that is not during the day... Does no one work here? Or is aqua natal unpopular amongst working women? Free swimming passes available though so my new pregnancy tankini may get an airing yet!

Dame I made cheese scones too!

I too have a headache and am also being slightly freaked out by stretching pains.

Emu Vegas sounds awesome!

Oh I have out on weight. Just not as much as I thought and I seem to be losing it now. That's why I'm worried as I wasn't expecting to lose, just to put on!

Sundae I'm very much looking forward to it. I hope I can find some clothes that fit though (as At 20 weeks I should be showing by then). Finding summer maternity clothes might be a challenge!

See we are all clearly starting to feel more human without even noticing as are all managing to function better and get stuff done - WOO HOO go Marchers! maybe this is THE bloom

I have always wanted to hit Vegas and in 20 years when all children have grown up I am on it, lol!
I still haven't weighed myself am too blinking scared, I am picking a lot but when it comes to my dinner or big meals I just pick and haven't finished one in weeks- was hoping this would of eased odd by now as I am hungry but starting retching if I force myself- maybe weighing myself will keep me away from the salt and vinegar crisps.
Struggling too contain myself in excitement for Thursday

Maxi dresses ahoy!

gummi I'll try and stay in touch but will be in for 3 days so may be difficult immediately. Though it looks like they have the 'patient line' type bedside systems - which might allow me access to the we . Not allowed my phone though :( I'll be lost without it!!

Not allowed your phone jojo how come?