March 2013 Mk V: Lumpy bumpy witty knitters (patiently) await the bloom!

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New one marchers sorry on phone and can't link! Will post title in our old thread x

Just popping in to say hello before the sickness starts again, thought I was through the last of it being 14+5 but obv not. Had to have ambulance out as couldn't keep down fluids even with the anti emetics given to me at the walk in centre. What I found funny was that I kept being asked to provide a urine sample, I couldn't keep any water down so quite how I was going to go for a wee I don't know. Anyway, have been told that its def morning sickness and the hormones peaking before placenta takes over, plus a slight UTI that I can sort out when I can stand without chucking up.
BabyBoo isn't up yet so getting as many sips of water down me before he/she decides that enough is enough and i have to live in the bathroom once again. Sitting in the walk in centre were two girls with babies talking about how much they hated their health visitor for telling them that dummies weren't good all the time. Made me giggle as I trained as a speech therapist and my MIL is a health visitor and dummies are regarded as the worst thing! My mIL would have had a field day taking to these two!

Hermione so sorry you're having such a tough time of it. Really hope you turn a corner soon...

Oh my word, Funny, that would have been truly awful? Phew, though! I don't know about you but I am still leaving the house with my little zip-up bag of panty pads, tampons and sanitary towels, just in case?! Feels slightly ridiculous now I'm reasonably far along but I can't bear the thought of something awful happening when I'm out on my own and not knowing what to do.

Wow, so many are feeling pops and wiggles and squiggles!!! Not jealous at all! Thanks Zoey and JoJo for explaining: I shall be on the look-out for the flutters of giant butterflies (what a lovely description!) Hope you get to feel something before the op, JoJo. Aw, I reckon that's just your DH's way of nesting, Zoey! It's lovely! Sounds like he and mine would get on just fine talking about drill bits and stuff!

Vivee thanks for the recommendation for John Lewis on Oxford Street - am often that way with work so shall pop in sometime! Sounds like you have the right attitude re parents. Just focus on you and your needs right now as that's of primary importance and none of us have extra energy to cope with other people's inappropriate stress right now. I really hope they come to appreciate that very soon too.

Crikey, Three, you've been to some way-out baby showers! The nice, simpler get together ones, though, sound lovely.

Pink, ooh was that in town or somewhere in East Oxford? There three I know are all East Oxford. I'd love to know of more Nepalese restaurants close-by! The food is no spicier than your average Indian or Bangladeshi restaurant, so you can safely go by the number of chillies on the menu (i.e. if there's none it's really not v. spicy!) I do love a bit of spicy food though? Do you know Chiang Mai Kitchen, the Thai restaurant tucked away in a Tudor building in the centre of town? One of my favourite places to eat.

Zoey hope you had a great night with the girls!

My bump has a variety of 'twosome' names from DH like Eric and Ernie, or I just go a bit baby-crazed, rubbing my belly saying 'Babies!!!' in a slightly crazed way. I truly am in love with my bump.

Had a 7am start at the desk today (damn book) as have got two lovely friends coming over later this afternoon. We're having our now traditional Pumpkin Fest - usually in November but, hey, we have pumpkins from the lottie and I can't wait to tell one of them about the pregnancy (she was my best woman and she's going to kill me for waiting so long but I wanted to tell her face-to-face and it's been a month or two since I've seen her!) Walk by the river and then four hours (or so it always seems) making Nigella's ridiculously complicated pumpkin lasagne recipe. Can't wait!

Hope everyone has a good day

manda I'm interested to know how you plan on breaking the news... Are you just going to answer the door with your bump on show and watch her confused look as she tried not to offend you with the are you? Aren't you? Look!!
Or are you going to hide behind a pillow??!

Ooooh 19 weeks today :)

Morning- DH left me in bed till this morning as I didn't get in till gone mid night (even though he waited up for me). Had such a fab night in mates local we has a proper girly catch up and friend brought her rapido board game- OMG I love that game it's so funny and we all blinking cheat, lol!! All friends think I am carrying different this time so are convinced it's a girl so hopefully Thursday will reveal all, only 4 more sleeps and it's nice as got DH grandad funeral Tuesday so it's something nice to focus on!

Its a cold wet day so it's going to be joggers and hoodie DHs as mine are too tight and I am thinking homemade rock cakes and lemon cupcakes however I do has a craving for pancakes with lemon and sugar!

Does anyone know how far along you can fly too as my grandad is very ill in insensitive care with his diabetes but is in Ireland? I feel awful as haven't been over since my nans funeral in 09 but just couldn't face being there and her not so staying away seemed easier!

Congrats on 19 weeks jojo that seems so long away for me right now!

My belly was so hard this morning when I woke up even DH was surprised and was having a poke, bless him he is always rubbing it and kissing it. Now I have been to loo its a bit softer and more normal feeling

I'm guessing Mandas bump will pretty much give the game away. Pumpkin lasagne sounds interesting, what do you use to offset the sweetness? Also, I've a great pumpkin pie recepie - which has a biscuit rather than pastry base, if you fancy it. Properally scrummy.

Heartbeats - brill!

Hermione - so sorry you're still struggling with such nasty sickness. Fingers crossed it goes soon.

I've more energy but by 5pm I'm pretty much done in. Have been in bed before 9pm all week. Poor MrM with his lonely evenings watching
Ted.

Haha, I'm going to answer the door with bump proudly on display! I have been thinking about my most bumptastic outfit, hehe!

Ohhhh I think you have to be really quite far along before they bar you from flying, Zoey. I looked into it as I was supposed to be going to Milwaukee for a conference about now and technically I could still fly, and for ages, but with twins and the various medical things that, at that stage, needing looking into and resolving, I decided not to go. Sorry about your grandad, and your DH's grandad too.

Tramp will get back to you on the recipe later! I only do it once a year, for this occasion, and have forgotten! I do know there is a ton of three different kinds of cheese in it: I asked my MW about the required 500g (!) of goat's cheese and she said 'Oh, it'll be fine! I was eating loads of stuff like that in my pregnancy and drinking too!' Plus it'll be cooked thoroughly so I'm not worrying at all.

zoey policy varies between airlines so check websites but most will allow you to fly normally until 28 weeks then ask for a doctors or midwife note to cover you( basically saying you're fit to fly/won't give birth on the plane) after that. Cut off varies up to 34 weeks. This is different if you're having twins manda

I have that nigella recipe and it looks like a lot of work which has always put me off. You must think its worth it manda so I may give it a try. Today i'm making cheese scones and a red velvet cake.

hermoine sorry you're still suffering. I got some really good advice last time I was in hospital: the OB suggested I try the suppository anti enemics and didn't try to get in water between hurls but to attempt something with salt in it...she said 'treat it like holiday dehydration and get salts in before diluting them in fact hold off on water for a few hours if you can. This was the opposite of all advice I'd had but I was willing to try anything by this point. I tried salted cashews, one at a time.. It helped a tiny bit.. Then dh made some thick lentil soup, blitzed it down and I managed a few slurps without being sick, we're talking a pathetically small amount here. I then slept a few hours and repeated. It took ages but I started to feel a bit better. I'm not suggesting this as a cure all but it helped me a lot so I figured I'd share. My anti enemics are mostly holding the hg at the moment but I'm 17w2 and I think that is a factor(at 12-14 weeks things were awful - think there was a hormone peak). Keep strong xx

manda also gets the double whammy of 'omg you're pregnant' and 'omg it's twins'

Morning! Just said 'no thank you' to Jehovah's witnesess at door. Very dedicated aren't they, they wanted to talk to me about doomsday and what it will really be like! Slightly awkward being in pj's at this time, with a one year old also scampering around in her sleep clothes but i'm sure they get that a lot if you will knock on people's doors on Sunday mornings!

zoey what dame says about airlines, but make sure you have proof of pregnancy with you anyway even up to 28 weeks as if you have an obvious bump and no proof of due date have heard they can stop you.
Also if you are going later on make sure you get note from doc in advance. I got refused a fit to fly letter at 30 weeks because my iron from 28 week bloods had come back low and that classed me as high risk, tho I was only flying to Glasgow. Luckily I was quite small and got through with a big coat but it coyld have been really annoying.

hermione i'm so sorry you're still feeling so poorly :(

manda have you got an Orange top you could draw a pumpkin face on and open door with twins to announce themselves and the start of pumpkin fest?? Could do you for Halloween too!

Busy days for everyone. Zoey, sorry to hear your granddads ill, it's been a rough year for you guys by the sounds of it (family wise).

That's cool then, I have only flown once when pregnant before and that was 7 weeks with DS2! Don't think with history of prem's I will get signed off o fly after 28 weeks so will just see how things go as there is always the ferry- it just takes forever!!!!

Really can not be bothered to do anything today, it's pouring rain, Sunday and yucky! DS1 is being a royal pain the bum and I can see him spending a lot of time in his room today- ow the joys!

Jojo so glad you got your date, I know we'll be the last thing youll be thinking about but please try and let us know how you are, I think we will all be thinking of you on Wednesday

Vivee how awful, please don't let this overshadow your pregnancy, they are your parents issues and I'm sorry I don't think your brother should be suggesting you get married just to appease them. He should be telling them to keep opinions to themselves and celebrate that there will be a precious new addition to their family!

Welcome djh

Oh Ethel blue for you, you are all making me curious but I'm going to try and stick with team yellow

Tramp, ood etc I'm having gtt too, my BMI was slightly over, my test was supposed to be on boxing day, but they moved it to the 2nd of Jan

Can't remember any more as I've just caught up on 4 pages, I have another headache today, I'm blaming on sinuses and my own stupid fault staying up too late to watch girl with dragon ratio,
But yes I must also remember to drink more fluids

Manda & jojo you'll probably find you have been feeling baby and babies and just not realising with dd1 at my 20 wk scan when she wasoving I realised I had been feeling movements for ages just doubted myself

My mil threw me a baby shower with dd1 must admit I wasn't quite sure about the whole thing but when it came to it, it was lovely, no games or anything just everyone brought all wee things, even weaning spoons etc it was so nice to have the stuff all in when it came to different stages

Waves to everyone, hope you are all having a happy sunday

Dame the recipe is really hard work, you're right. Kind of funny story behind it. I can't remember what busy-craziness I was up to at the time but my friend came over with both the recipe and two huge shopping bags full of ingredients ? it only slowly dawned on us that not only was it quite a long-winded recipe but that she had bought the full quantity of ingredients to feed twelve and there were just the two of us! (She's not that au fait with recipes!) Those two massive lasagnes kept us going for days! So, every year since we've done the same recipe, with the same quantities, as a kind of tradition. Tonight we are four so we'll make a better dent in it! It is yum though.

Three what a great idea!

Tipping down here too Zoey - really miserable!

Your baby party sounds lovely, Gummi! I'm starting to come round to it now! I like the idea that those of us who haven't been recognising flutters are having them but just don't know what they are!

Ohhhh in other news, am still obsessed with cervix. The pressure on it comes and goes each day. And the soreness (like in a heavy period) comes and goes too. I am checking the opening to my cervix (very very gently!) two or three times a day. DH is telling me to leave well alone, but I'm terrified of missing some sign that things are going awry. Will phone cervix scanning people tomorrow and ask if I can come in a week early or something? such a bloody panicker, I know!

I know easier said than done manad but don't panic about cervix from someone with an incompetent cervix and your DH is right leave it well alone you could introduction bacteria or anything or disturb something that was perfectly fine before!!! Unless you have had problems with cervix or a cone biopsy there is no reason it will do anything at this stage! The pressure is totally normal and is mainly cos ur womb used to tilt but with babies and pregnancy it sort of moves upright to move from behind pelvis so everything is just adjusting, I get it as well as I ignore it as its perfectly normal!

Thanks for the messages everyone, oooo flamingo lentil soup sounds so good right now! I've managed to keep down two cups of boiled water and some crackers and sleeping a lot. Taking it so easily today that ve barely left the bed! I'm going to keep the MW tip in mind though if the sickness starts up again, thinking about it I have been feeling queasy for a few days, I was off work on Monday but put it down to stress. 12 weeks and then no sickness was obviously a myth!
Loving the chat about baby showers, I've only been invited to one but turned the invite down (went to visit with a present and a cake later) as I would have been the only one there without children and it was one of those groups that never seem to talk about anything else but babies and children. My friends at work asked if I was having a baby shower but having worked in IT for so long most of my friends are men and they all agreed that it wasn't something they would enjoy. I can imagine it would be fairly awkward with a group of blokes! However, they all love cake and asking me questions about BabyBoo (they were very amused by the weeing inside me question, no matter how many times I explain what the umbilical cord and placenta do they still think amniotic fluid is made up of baby wee) so I will have a baby shower of sorts!
Sorry to hear about your grandad zoey

Thanks, Zoey - it's really, really good to hear from someone who actually has experience of IC and still has the pressure-feeling after your stitch! If you're not panicking then I know I shouldn't. Can I ask how you first discovered you had IC and at what stage? Don't worry if it's too personal to answer...

(I always wash hands thoroughly beforehand, just to reassure...!)

I have had no problems with cervix apart from whatever may have happened during my quite late termination which went wrong. (It was late because I had periods so didn't know I was pregnant for ages, then dithered, then got ill with flu so they wouldn't do the procedure ... think it was just a week or two beyond the border of what's legally acceptable.) The procedure didn't go to plan - had to have a big emergency op 12 hours later as was haemoragging (sp?) badly and I was so out of it on morphine afterwards I never really found out precisely what went wrong during the termination - or rather I believed what they told me at the time which every doctor I've ever seen since says was an absolute cop-out of an explanation.

My consultant has written to that hospital to find out from my surgical notes what exactly happened, but she said it was most likely a uterine perforation which, I'm guessing, wouldn't have any impact of performance of cervix now. So I should just relax, I know. Thanks, chuck!

manda I get pressure/pain on my cervix, did with dd2/3 too but not had an early baby yet or one that wanted to come out by themselves at all

Just popping on quickly to ask you lovely ladies your opinion on whether or not I'm feeling baby. Last time I was on here we were on page 29 but now page 35 so I have some catching up to do tonight but for now I'm busy packing (even though I've felt like shit all weekend).

I'm pretty sure it's probably unlikely to be baby I'm feeling since I'm only 15+4 and bean is my first, but every now and again I get a feeling like a trapped nerve low down in my belly to the left. It's not like popping or fluttering but like the feeling you get when you've got a trapped nerve in your leg, but in your belly! When it happens, it last less than a second and then doesn't happen again for ages (or even a day). I'm pretty sure it's not a trapped nerve (how do you get a trapped nerve in your belly anyway?!) and it's definitely not wind. I've been feeling this randomly for a few days now.

What do think?

With DS1 I kept bleeding and was told 3 times I was having a MC, at 23 weeks I bleed again and went to maternity department and then did an internal ad I was 6cm! Bleeding is normally first sign as when pregnant the blood flow is increased so any movement causes bleeding, with DS2 I had spotting at 22 weeks on the Monday but had a planned San 2 hours later so went to that and was 3cm so for me bleeding is the first sign things are moving :)

Also with DS1 I gave birth through the stitch so ripped cervix out with him so had a repair operation 3 days later, but that don't seem to out caused any additional weakness or problems x

Oh my word, Zoey, how frightening that must have been. Thanks for sharing your experiences. It's clear from what you say that even if you start to dilate they can bring the cervix back together sufficiently to maintain the pregnancy - thank goodness too. I've not had a spot of bleeding throughout, just increased discharge over the last day or two. I will definitely try to stop worrying. I will find something to worry about in any circumstances!

Cheers, Ood - glad there's a few of us here with this! Safety in numbers, methinks

HI Emus and sorry I have no experience to share on this (yet!) Could it be baby/uterus leaning on a nerve? Hmm...

So I was reading today about a muscle in your tummy that stretches as the uterus/womb enlarges. It cam cause consistent dull ache like a mild period cramp or a sharp pain in your side. As long as the sharp pains are short and not consistent worry not. If consistent pop to hospital. So it sounds a lot like several of us are enjoying a muscle stretching. Wish I could remember what it was called now but can't and am on train.

Zoey - yikes in every way.

Mand - all the worry is understandable but as noted, leaving well alone sounds like sensible advice. And yikes for your termination - that sounds horrific.

Oh yes, hello Emus!

Gosh Zoey that experience sounds really scary for you. Hope you don't get that again.

Manda I'm a worrier too, to the point that I've now convinced myself that something has happened to bean :-( I'm looking out for signs of bad news all the flipping time. It's exhausting. I have so many people telling me to just enjoy it and I'm trying, I really am, but it's hard when you don't know what's going on in there and I'm not showing or putting on much weight! Which is why I'm hoping that I am feeling baby as that's reassuring! I'm clinging onto the fact that my interpretation of fluttering is like a trapped nerve feeling - haha!

Just wanna curl up on the sofa in the warm and watch the F1 but so much to do! OH has been away but is back tonight :-)

Hope everyone is well. X