shagged out viroids volume 5 - proving that JSing really does work!

[mandasand]

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Glad you are feeling better sonething

Thanks for everyone's good luck wishes. He was happier on the way and pleased to see his friend. The teacher asked me to stay like before until he was settled. Then decided that she was going to take him and me leave before the register (no warning to me of change of plan ) so he absolutely broke down sobbing on the floor. Then clung to me, she tried to sit him on her lap but he was just kicking and screaming and I was ushered out. Been so upset this morning I just can't stop crying about it.

Aw, Tired, sorry to hear there were tears again this morning, but I think it's great progress that he was happier on the way in and that he had his friend there. That is progress, and positive signs for the future

Good luck tomorrow, Wing!

How was he when you picked him up Tired? Did they say that he'd settled down okay after you'd left?

Perhaps next time (tomorrow?) given them a call mid-morning or lunchtime and see how he is to put your mind at rest?

Thanks Manda. I'll definitely update when I get back tomorrow.

Thanks again lovely mumsnet friends for all your nice supportive words. They did ring today to say he was ok. Also we just picked up DH and he told him loads about what he did with his friend. Was quite chirpy when I picked him up. I shall not cry tomorrow!

On a happier note minitired has been positively doing gymnastics for the past 48 hours it's lovely!

That's really great that they called you to reassure, Tired. Gosh it must be such a wrench! Have you been wandering around at home thinking 'the place is so empty!' or finding lots of things to do with the time? Sounds like he's beginning to enjoy it now Woop for your little gymnast, too! Are you about 22 weeks now? I am 15 weeks and was beginning to think I could feel flutters but then was told by the consultant that my placentas are anterior (towards my belly) so it will be longer before I can feel movements, even tho you are supposed to feel them earlier with twinnies.

I am sooo of people seeing somersaults etc on scans as the most mine have done is jiggle their arms when they get prodded by the ultrasound thing! Really want them to move about next time! That will be in 3wks time, but it's a cervical scan so the 'dildo' ultrasound device rather than through the belly. Does anyone know if we'll be able to see the babies as well this way? If not, I may have to be cheeky and ask for a peek through the belly as well!

Thinking of you for tomorrow Wing, and looking forward to hearing your news

Glad today was better Tired and fingers crossed no tears tomorrow! I love this stage where you can feel the kicks but its not mega uncomfortable. Can't wait to feel kicking. Have been feeling smiley today when I think of my little blob with a heartbeat!

My BF is due in Jan and we have been talking about our pregnancies and babies etc not thinking about the fact that the kids didn't know. Her eldest asked the other day 'is guinea pregnant?!'. She neither denied or confirmed but figured it was probably best to tell my children before they did!!

Because I saw the heartbeat yesterday I told them this morning. They were v. excited...DD kept looking at my tummy and complaining that she can't see the baby. She also kept stroking it and saying hello baby....twas sooo cute .

DS wants a boy baby DD wants a girl baby, no surprises there! Will you all find out the gender?

Handed in my chapter today so having a well earned break tomorrow and am very briefly because DD hates shopping going jacket shopping and out for lunch with my mum and DD. Happy days.

Thinking of you Wing for tomorrow. Let us know how it goes. I'm so excited for you!

Morning all :)

Well good news and bad disappointing news.

The good - there is a little baby :) Heartbeat there, hurrah.

The disappointing - by measurements I'm only 10 weeks 6 today. I just cannot get my head around the fact that I am eight days out on my dates, and that makes me worried that the baby is actually just measuring small and something's wrong.

The sonographer didn't seem overtly worried but I can't work it out.

Saying that, DH (who of course was really worried and disappointed because I was, bless him) and I did chat about cycles and OV dates etc and I already thought my cycle was longer than 28 days, which would allow for a few days behind 12 weeks, and then if I didn't OV exactly halfway through the cycle that could account for another few days.

I said to him that's also probably why we hadn't been successful up until the month we tried JSing EOD because I probably got my OV dates totally wrong.

I had a brief text chat with my BFriend (who is just starting her third year training as a midwife) and I'm going to have a chat with her later about it. Her first reaction though was 'Hmm' which didn't fill me with a lot of confidence

So I'm feeling a bit less tearful and a bit happier now that at least I know I haven't been making it all up and I am actually pregnant! But boo hiss to the fact that I've got to go back for the nuchal scan on the 24th AND I can't bloomin well start telling people properly yet!

DH reckons I can because I've seen that MiniWing is looking okay at the moment (well, the scan was so brief that all she showed us was the heartbeat and vaguely pointed to the head) and the % chance of MCing between 11 and 12 weeks must be such a small difference that it probably would be fine but I want to wait just a bit longer.

Right, I had better go and update the stats thread.

Hi manda even better today just a little cry when I left which as at the same time as the other mums and I managed not to cry hurrah! I also have an anterior placenta which I didn't know about until the 20 week scan. I don't think I felt movements later really was def having flutters at 13+ weeks and the kicks now are very clear. Mostly low or at the top though and more muffled feeling when at the front if that makes sense. I have never seen somersaults on scans just waves and wiggles or kicks.

guinea thanks for the encouragement about school much better today. Nice to see the heartbeat and tell your dc it's makes it more real and exciting. Have fun shopping!

wing I think the scan news is fine. You baby is there and doing great. I think cycles can vary so much more than we realise. Think I was quite similar to you in the ttc following an app which was using an average for ov dates. We ttc 3 months like this then upped our game to everyday as I was getting bored of waiting and got BFP! So it does make total sense to me that you cycle may have been longer with a later ov date. At least with going back for the nuchal scan you will see baby again and it will have grown so will put your mind at rest hopefully. Try not to worry x

Tired - so glad it is getting better :) I'm happy that the timing of this bump will mean that I'll be on maternity leave for the first full autumn/winter term of DS going to primary.

I'm feeling a bit better now. DMum called to make sure I was okay and DH has been looking up MC rates. Apparently it's only 3% (I think he said) post-8 weeks if you have heard/seen the heartbeat and then it's 1% once you get to 12 weeks and beyond. And he pointed out that we are much nearer to 12 weeks so really close to that 1%.

So we've agreed to tell our siblings and close church friends this weekend and then everyone else from next weekend when I'm 12 weeks...

Right just do some work. to you all :)

Nice you told your DCs, Guinea! Well done on the chapter! (Want one of mine to revise/rewrite?!) Sounds like it's going well

Wing I don't think 8 days is too awry either. Anyway, what the hell, there's a blinkin' baby in there!!! Remember how it was on the JS thread?! We were all so desperate for our BFPs and woop now you've had a great scan AND you get another in 10 days time! Chin up, love!

Tired that's such great news about your little man! He's getting brave, see? (And probably having lots of fun when you're not there, hehee!) Thanks for telling me you've never had somersaults - that helps with my jealousy of others!

Happy weekends one and all! xx

Guinea DS said last night "Mummy have you got a baby in your tummy?" I was very and said no, not yet and asked him why he asked. I can't remember why he said he'd asked! Another week, once we've done the Nuchal and I start telling more people and we'll tell him :)

Manda my goodness you are SO right. All that stress on the (lovely) JSing thread and my recent scan envy on here and I'll have another sneaky peek at my baby in just over a week! Thank you for the perspective

I got DH to get my maternity clothes down from the loft this morning. Some of it I'm going to need straight away - including a pair of elastic acted smart trousers for my London trip on Monday - and some of t I probably wore out last time and can replace. I'm starting to get a teeny. It excited now

Hey! Lots to catch up on.

I'm sorry about the scan wing, but jealous you get to see the baby again soon!

Yey for telling the children!

The midwife changed my due date to 26 April, so a day earlier. I'm 8+1 today. Scan in 5 weeks. Oddly all my symptoms have gone, aside from being exhausted. That's not a bad thing is it?

Hi all, i've only been missing for a week and so much to catch up on.

A lot of ups and downs i see.

How is everyone today?

Just to make you all smile - I have no DCs (as you know, just one pending), but tomorrow i get 2 teenagers (16 to 18) comming to stay for a week. They will be comming for 1 week a month for 8 monthsto study at a college here. I have to provide parented accommadation for them.

Crash course in Parenting?

Wow Toffee that sounds exciting! Wonder what they'll be like? When are you due, we might be in hospital at the sane time

Wing my midwife EDD is 23 April. My new date based on the scan is 5 May! I would have panicked too if it hadn't been for the fact that I KNOW when I ovulated (because of the daily OPKs which my phone just changed to daily poos he he) and so I knew the initial date was wrong. My cycle was still standard length but I just OVd later. That's probably what has happened to you. I'm 7 weeks today and I'll have my scan at 10+5 but as I'm not having the nuchal scan it doesnt matter. about your DC asking!

Some days I don't feel anything frying so I wouldn't worry too much about lack of symptoms.

Manda if its any consolation I have to start on the next chapter on Monday . Still haven't finished my fieldwork and getting slightly worried now. Ho hum,must keep plodding on.

Glad school was a bit better tired, onwards and upwards!

Ooo It's Strictly Come Dancing tonight, how exciting!!

Guinea you almost made me cry with your comments. I hope you don't mind but having someone else go through the same thing (even thought its completely usual I'm sure) has really helped.

Being nosy, why aren't you having the nuchal? Is it not offered where you are?

Frying yes I'm now looking at the positives of this extra scan!

Toffee you are brave very good to be doing that. Are they foreign students?

Had my first private scan today and it was brill! Baby has very long legs like their brother!

Glad you enjoyed your scan something. How far along are you now? Are you having any more private scans?

Wing I'm not having any screening for Down's Syndrome so they won't do the nuchal if I'm not having the triple test. I didn't have any screening with either DCs. I don't think I'd risk an amnio or CVS and I wouldn't terminate so just decided not to bother.

I did my Masters research on women's decision making and attitudes towards risk with regards to prenatal screening for DS. So many women did the screening without thinking through the implications and then ended up in turmoil when faced with decisions they had to make. This reinforced why I don't screen for this. Just a personal preference and I understand why women do but just isn't for me. I'll still have my anomaly scan which may seem strange, but some things that they can pick up may affect birthing decisions or neonatal care etc, whereas I don't thnk that's the case for DS.

Wow Guinea that Masters topic sounds absolutely fascinating. I would love to read it. To be honest, I wouldn't terminate either but I would want to know in advance just to make preps etc.

Something yay for your scan! I was going to say that I'm because I just can't justify the cost but as I've got another one coming up soon so I can't be jealous

Actually I've also realised something else that made me feel upset/disappointed yesterday. I must have got literally 10 seconds to look at the screen - once when she said 'look, there's the heartbeat' and then another brief look at the end.

I think if it had been just a dating scan ie not expecting to have the nuchal as well, they would probably have have spent longer showing the baby off to me IYKWIM. I'm sure that was the case with the dating scan I had with DS.

The sonographer was just really abrupt and brief. There was no congratulations - the first thing she said to me was 'oh, you're far too early' and then as a second thought showed me the heartbeat.

Sorry, I must stop rambling and moaning. I'm not like this normally (as most of you will know by now I hope!) but just argh!!

Back to happy thoughts tomorrow

Oh AND they charge £4 for each scan pic

Very pissed off about that. We didn't bother because we were in there for such a short time there didn't seem much point :(

Well you can get a lovely scan pic next time wing hopefully you will get a different sonographer as that one does sound rather grumpy! Our hosp charges that much too but it's more like you pay £4 up front for a sticker then get what pics they give you. We actually got 7 at 12 weeks (two attempts to get the nuchal so two lots) and 3 at 20 weeks.

Glad you had a lovely scan something my ds1 always measured really long and is still reaching 98th percentile for height age 8 he is taller than my shoulder already! Maybe your DS will be very tall too?!

That does sound like a grumpy sonographer Wing. Mine was lovely the other day, she said congratulations and was really genuine about it - I almost cried! (sorry if that sounds like I'm rubbing it in, I'm really not).

We have to pay for pictures from the 20 week scan but I got a free picture this time and I've got masses of pictures with DD because we had so many scans and we got given free pictures each time.

When is your next scan Wing, I'm a wee bit as its ages until my next one.

Anyone know how much-ish private scans cost?

Hello everyone! Marking my place in the hope that my pg is sticky! I got my bfp a week ago but had been spotting for several days so assumed mc. Scan showed things the size they should be but need to wait for the follow-up comparative scan in a few more days before I feel even vaguely out of the woods. Spotting has stopped and some nausea has started which gives me some hope, but still trying to assume the worst.

So excited to read all your news and really hope I will be joining you properly soon!

Congratulations Hooya! Will keep everything crossed that everything is fine. Nausea is a good sign! Let us know when you have the scan. If all is well when will you be due?

Congrats on your BFP Hooya!! I'd better not give you a Hooya-slap as you're a bit fragile at the moment. I hope you're taking it easy, no lifting or exercise etc. (I'm not a medical professional but it seems sensible to me!)

Keep lurking if you don't feel confident enough to continue piston and hope to see you back after your next scan :)

*posting. Dur.