November 2012 - nearly halfway there!

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Previous threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1412456-Nov-12-babies
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1432039-Due-in-November-2012-part-deux-no-cringy-thread-name-here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1438916-November-2012-Duebies-Part-3-insert-cheesy-name-of-choice-here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1449640-November-2012-bring-on-the-second-trimester
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1460598-November-2012-the-boringly-named-fifth-thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1479016-November-2012-time-for-gender-guessing

I was just feeling my bump and prodded a bit too hard (ouch!) but I'm sure I felt the baby, hard lump over to the right.

You can't hurt it by prodding too hard can you?

Have you felt how hard the sonographers dig in DH?!

Sorry you lot gab too much I am only at page 13 but just had to say how sorry I am Little. Daisy is a gorgeous name and I don't know what else to say I am just so sorry and wish you the very best for the future.

I agree apple, I have two DC's but I still strike each week as a safe one. I breath a little easier at 24 weeks, a little easier at 28 and relax a lot at 34/35. Life is too precious to be complacent.

yellow I did not read the guardian article (about to) but breastfed both mine until they were a year old. When I went back to work I did a mixture of breast and formula. DS1 weaned himself really but DS2 had to be dissuaded. Its bloody hardwork at first but I think it benefitted them. They have cast iron stomachs and I think we have only had one ear infection between them. Was good for weightloss too. I will step down from my soap box now.

What sad news little. Sage reminder really that we should be repeating the mantra of early days -"today I am pregnant and I will enjoy it"

Sports day today in the unexpected sunshine! Lovely to get some vitimin D. I took it easy for a change and sat down - even the short bursts of hauling equipment about have left me a bit achy.

Thanks for all your messages and comments. I shall certainly be spying on you all and keeping everything crossed for you.

Please do not feel bad about celebrating your good news. Hearing others good news makes it a little easier, knowing that no-one is having to go through this awful event.

Today, you are all pregnant.... so bl**dy well enjoy it!!!! :o

P.S. (My husband is currently terrorising the cats and dogs with the remote control helicopter I bought him for his birthday last week. What was I thinking??)

Little ((hugs)) you sound so positive. My friend sounds similar to you, she lost her little boy at 28 weeks last year and is due this winter. She's so positive about everything it's wonderful. I wished last night I could hug my little one, but just hugged the bump instead. I wish you all the best for the future I really do.

Vallium glad all was ok, shanelle good luck!

I can't remember who posted the bf article but it's worth considering that all the toxins in the environment and ingested by yourself will be passed onto the baby while your pregnant, there will be no additional ones so to speak while breastfeedinh that they won't already be exposed to (alcohol maybe?) so don't let things like that put you off. I will try to bf if it doesn't work, then I'll have to use formula.

Little, that's the most beautiful sentiment and it has moved me a great deal. Like the others I am holding my bump that little bit tighter today. I told DH what had happened as he saw I was upset and he has shed a tear too. I wish you every joy for the future. xx

little my heart goes out to you, I'm sorry that Daisy could only stay awhile. Our family was in a similar position to yours a couple of years ago and whilst it was a horrid time, we found great solace in appreciating the little time we spent with our baby before wishing him on his way. Good luck and all the best for the future. xxx

hiya,

Just wondering about private 3D scans... anyone had one is london? what prices are they?

i missed the group on offer, as i didn't think DH wanted it, but now he has changed his mind...

Little I am in awe of your positivity.

I am a HUGE breastfeeding advocate. Think it was totally worth doing with DD, despite the first few problematic weeks, and will do it for #2 if possible. There are masses of benefits to it, for both Mum & baby and it is definitely worth at least trying I think. If it doesn't work out, formula is adequate to meet baby's needs BUT it so much more expensive & time-consuming in comparison. There are always scare stories & to be honest, how can formula be toxin free given its made up with the same water we drink...??!! Plus, breastmilk is free.

I loved breastfeeding! We did a lot of camping when DD2 was small, and it was so easy just flopping a bap out whenever she was hungry.

Scan in stirling is 80 quid. Just 3D. No doubt more expensive in London. I miss London. Used to live in Brixton. When I first moved I could not sleep as it was too quiet.

The group on "offer" was £90! So hate to think what full price offer is. I think DH just wants another chance to see the tackle ! It's one of the reasons he won't let me tell ppl in rl. Cos he thinks "what if it was wrong".

Culturally there is a pressure for us to have a boy. Which upsets me. N I know it sounds silly. But I wanted a girl, but always thought if I did "ppl" will not b as happy. Which upset me cos I would love to have a girl.

Now I know I'm having a boy, the pressure is off I guess. But really it's made me realise, I just want a healthy baby. Funny how the "community" can put so much pressure on u with something like this. N I know ppl will say F them lol. N I think the same thing sometimes. But it's hard when ur amongst these ppl. Spesh as I live with PIL.

Ok that's a very random rant from me! guess I need to vent today.

I loved breastfeeding too first time round. Ended up doing it until ds was about 14 months when he sort of weaned himself. It took a few days to get going but once we both had the hang of it, it is so much more convenient than bottle! And just a lovely bonding experience. And ds didn't have a single cold or sniffle until after his first birthday. Just one bit of experience, I didn't realise that it could be so difficult to get him to drink milk from a bottle once he was used to bfing. At about 5 months i was a bridesmaid and wanted him to have bottle for the day to make things easier. About 6 weeks before we tried to get him used to drinking from it but he flat out refused! Even tho was breast milk. We tried loads but was no go. So gave up in end and he never did take bottle, went straight to beaker later on. Was pretty stressful at the time and I vowed that next time I'd introduce bottle for occasional feeds (pumped milk) from about a month, once bfing established. That way daddy also gets a go!

little you rock my dear. Your philosophical attitude and calm strength are amazing. I have no doubt of the pain you are suffering, but also no doubt that good things come to those who wait and those, like you with so much love and kindness to give. Take care xxx

On the breastfeeding debate, here's a fascinating rebuttal to the Guardian piece www.analyticalarmadillo.co.uk/2012/06/toxins-in-breastmilk-guardian.html?m=1 am a bit cross at the Guardian for scaremongering! (humans bioaccumulate toxins but guess what - so do cows and the crap is all in cows milk too, why did my fecktarded brain not figure out that simple logic! )

Can I suggest in case anyone else needs a little fun and laughter - I've just read this and cried, bellylaughed (and weeed - damnit) jezebel.com/5919206/cosmos-44-most-ridiculous-sex-tips - the bellydweller must have thought they were on a spacehopper I was shaking and roaring so much!

yellowwellies I've just read that article on your fb link, it's hilarious! I want to read his bad men sex tips now!

I bf ds til he was 15 months but after about a year I was fed up with it because I wanted my body back to start making baby number 2. I didn't have periods at all for the whole time I was bfing.

Also if anyone still wants to join the fb group you can now search for it. It's called Nov 12 Babies and you need to request to join. If you do can you still pm me your real name on here just so I know who's asking to be added, thanks!

GT I know where you are coming from. My husbands family just assumed we wanted a boy first and were obviously happier when they fiound out DS1 was a boy. Coming from a family of girls and having a Dad who only wanted girls we found it rather strange. I once spoke to my SILs mother in law and when I told her I was one of two girls she acted like there had been a tragedy in my family. My Dad was very amused! Healthy babies are what we want (and boys are excellent cuddlers!)

I wasglad I continued to BF until a year but I was glad to stop when I did. It is nice to get your body back but the BF bond is lovely too. Hope it works with DC3. I hate the media in relation to breastfeeding because there is no middle ground. It is either bad for baby or it is the only way to feed baby. No wonder women feel like failures if they formula feed and feel like social lepers if they BF in a public place. We do not give ourselves a break.

Loved the sex tips (and couldn't help thinking 'thank goodness I'm past all that 'trying to impress some' shenanigans when you might actually consider stuff like this! I've got a terrible sense of co-ordination though so would probably end up doing the fella an injury, specially with those early ones).

Another breastfeeding advocate here. Free, sterile and portable. Brilliant when travelling, or out and about, don't have to think about preparing anything. I could never work out what to do with bottles (though like Dixie I probably should have tried earlier with bottles of expressed milk because she never took bottles either then, at any point!).

Hello hello, can I join in? I'm due in November too : )

I'm definitely on the "breast is best" team, as it's natural and good for mother and baby in many ways. I was devastated when I had DD though as I was determined to breastfeed, only to be told she couldn't suck properly and wasn't getting enough. I then expressed as much as I could and gave it to her in bottles, and she still found it difficult. I had to use fast flow teats just so she got enough, and in the end switched to formula as my supply decreased. I felt so guilty and even tried to bring my supply back up and tried to get her to take to the breast again after she had got the hang of sucking properly - but as it goes, she was used to the bottle by then. :(
Still, i'll be trying again with this one as every baby is different!
I'm lucky too as DD has never been ill, and i'm rather proud of that, and just goes to show you can still have a healthy baby who is FF :)

(I've always been a bit of a health snob with her food though, no jars or anything, I wasn't even keen on rusks because I hadn't made them myself Still, she now chooses veg over chips any day so I guess my snobbery paid off. Maybe I was making up for the fact I didn't BF)

But women should not be judged for doing either, and FF has it's benefits, like handing the baby over to someone else for feeds while you get some much needed rest, and the Fuller For Longer trick so they sleep better

Sorry for rambling! Hope everyone is well today :)

P.S. Hello MrsSkinnyLegs, congratulations on your pregnancy! When are you due? We'll add you to the stats list :)

Swiss I was FF back in the 70s as was my sister, BF doesn't work out for everyone and there's no rhyme or reason to it. I'm certainly not taking it for granted that it will work again.

Very impressed with your solids regime. I was jar queen with DD (I still do the odd one). And she loves chips, pizza, icecream. Anything she shouldn't have in fact!

Welcome MrsSkinnyLegs. and (the envy emoticon is for if you actually do have skinny legs).