Jue in June -Waters breaking everywhere and not a drop of Gaviscon to drink...

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Here's another :)

Congratulations curioselle looking forward to the birth story

millie no progress just feeling crampy! So strange wanting more pain, but really hoping it doesn't just fade away. weird not having june baby after being with due in june ladies so long! :)

takethat hope that it is something for you, maybe we give birth in tandem

I'm starting to think it must be contractions. Whatever they are, they are fucking fucking painful, bringing me almost to tears, and they're getting stronger and more regular. Took paracetamol and it did nothing, so I'm downstairs now. There's absolutely no pain in between them, either. It's now lower abdominal pain, sort of like period pain but much more intense, accompanied by back pain which is even worse.

I bet, though, that I keep DH awake all night looking after me and then they ease off and he has to go to work ...

wow thats great - in the least horrible way, sounds like you are really on your way. Maybe it's time you need some support rather than dealing with pain by self?

Congratulations Neen a lovely name. Must have a count sometime to see if the boys have now caught up with all the early girls!

TTL and Curioselle does indeed sound to me as though you are both on the way.

Nurse dd is also a fairly quick feeder. Also as you have a big baby it might be that she is just more efficient. If her poo has started to change colour and you are getting explosive green poos then it might be she's not getting enough hindmilk but otherwise there is nothing to worry about. If you see any posts on the breast/bottle feeding board by Tiktok her explanation of the whole foremilk/hindmilk thing is great and it seems a lot of hcp's get it wrong and it is less to worry about than we think. Your bf peer supporter isn't by any chance a called Chrissie is she?

hmm apart from waking a couple of times with cramping I slept fairly well! I hope it increases today!! takethat how are you doing? :)

Feeling a bit down. Have been having contractions all night - DH stayed up with me all night. They were getting thicker and faster and harder until around 4-5am, when they peaked at 3-4 mins apart and a minute long. That went on for half an hour and I thought we were nearly there with going to the hospital. Since then they've eased off and they're only every 8-9 minutes and they're not as painful as they were. I threw up twice, too, and had a bit of an explosion at the other end, so I really thought things were working. But now it feels like I'm going back to normal after a night of excruciating pain :(

DH is staying off work, but I'm really tired and fed up :(

oh dear don't get too down hearted, this might just be your bodies way of giving you a break, get a bit of rest and I bet it picks up again! This is it regardless of how long it takes, am sure if you were examined you would be a way along now. Does this sound like I know what I am talking about? I don't -Just using intuition

TTL just dropping in to say stick with it! Maybe they've just eased off as nature's way of letting you have a bit of food and rest before things kick off again in earnest. Thinking of you today.

TTL and Curiouselle sorry to hear you haven't had as much progresss as you hoped. Just remember that every contraction is a step in the right direction. I had about 3 BH all day yesterday and nothing since so I'm trying not to think about it and just accept I'm having a sweep on Tuesday.
Im sure one if not both of you will have your baby by the weekend. Xx

tinyk how you doing? any twinges? Xx

I'm mega p'd off that nothing is happening so as tough as it is that you haven't progressed further at least you have hope. I'm still in bed. Can't face getting up and getting another dozen texts and calls and mother-in-law ringing every time she leaves the house and the second she's back home again. She even said on Wednesday that she hates the waiting! They're on standby to have the kids but I'm starting to think I should tell them not to worry and my M&D will have them instead. My M&D live 20mins away rather than 5 but at least my mum isn't on my case 24/7.

ttl fear not that happened during my labour. I had two spells where thy died right down. I found a bath helped relax me and soon enough they were back! I was hesitant to get in the bath initially as I was worried it would slow things right down but if did the opposite for me,..... Made me nice and relaxed and got all those good labour hormones pumping so things progressed nicely.

Best of luck!

TTL - that sounds like how my labour went! Hope yours is quicker at getting properly established though!

Newneeps - congratulations on your boy I love Arthur!

Couriselle - good lucks things seem to be happening to you.

This is an explanation of hind milk/fore milk, that I like. From Kellymom

'Foremilk is the milk (typically lower in fat) available at the beginning of a feeding; hindmilk is milk at the end of a feeding, which has a higher fat content than the foremilk at that feeding. There is no sharp distinction between foremilk and hindmilk ? the change is very gradual. Research from Peter Hartmann's group tells us that fat content of the milk is primarily determined by the emptiness of the breast -- the less milk in the breast, the higher the fat content.

A woman's breast really only makes one type of milk, the higher-fat milk that we typically think of as hindmilk. As milk is produced in the breast, the fat globules in the milk tend to stick to each other and to the walls of the alveoli (where the milk is made). Between feedings, milk collects in mom's breasts and gradually moves out toward the nipple, leaving more and more of the fat "stuck" further back in the milk ducts. The more time between feedings, the lower the fat content of the foremilk available to baby at the beginning of the feeding.

Once the let-down (or Milk Ejection Reflex/MER) is triggered (by baby's nursing, pumping, etc.), the milk is squeezed down the ducts until it becomes accessible to the baby. Milk production is not faster during letdown - the flow is simply faster. There are several let-downs per feed, although most mothers only sense the first one.

As the breast starts to empty, the fat globules begin to dislodge and move down the ducts (let-down facilitates this process). So the further into the feed, the higher the fat content of the milk, as more and more fat globules are forced out. The end result is that the milk gradually increases in fat as the feeding progresses.

Your breasts don't "flip a switch" at some arbitrary point and start producing hindmilk instead of foremilk. Instead, think of the beginning of a nursing session as being like turning on a hot water faucet.

The first water you get out of the tap isn't usually hot, but cold. As the water runs, it gradually gets warmer and warmer and warmer. This is what happens with the fat content in mom's milk - moms's milk gradually increases in fat content until the end of the feeding.'

Some babies feed faster than others just like you can vary the flow of water from a tap. That is why I am always very wary of people who say your baby should feed x mins - because every baby is different and every breast is different!

Thank you ladies :) Had a little spate of contractions between 8.30 and 9.15 but they're drying up again now. kara didn't your labour last a week?! Please God don't let that happen to me!! Amazing help on BFing btw - I'm going to copy and paste that.

Very very thirsty so trying to get some fluids in in the hope it will kickstart things again. For now just enjoying the relief - DH made a list of my contraction lengths and gaps between them from 1am-7am and there were 55 in total, all lasting roughly a minute, so I'm knackered! He's dozing on the couch now and was amazing all night. So glad he's here with me.

My mum rang me 10 times yesterday and texted me and DH and all sorts, and she's already begun the onslaught today. DH lied to her at 7 and said everything was normal, but she's got some cock and bull story about me needing to ring her because she has ordered an animated card for my brother's birthday (which is today - he's in Greece for the summer) and she gets a free one and if I want to send it to him I need to ring her and go through it all online. I really don't want her to know I've had contractions all night because she'll then want to ring me every five minutes checking my progress and I just can't bear it.

owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ..... can't ring her in case that happens again, too!

Oh exciting TTL but also frustrating - does sound like a bit of a start-stop labour like a few of us had. Hopefully it will suddenly get into gear and things will move quickly for you after that

Good luck Curioselle

Sorry Neenewps for calling you curioselle earlier - I love Arthur's name too

After a day-full of unsettledness, we didn't have any middle-of-the-night screaming session last night.
Celeste doesn't seem to enjoy being awake at all - she is either sleeping, feeding or crying it seems - but luckily the sling gets her to sleep pretty fast most of the time and she loves being all wrapped up tightly in it

Quick post from me as I have been trying to straighten my hair for an hour but Cormac seems to think it looks better frizzy as he seems to be dead against me getting it done

Thank you for all your supportive comments, shows me that I am not being unreasonable in expecting some sort of help. Dps brother came round yesterday and asked how things were going and I couldn't help moaning about how desperate I was for just half an hour to have a bath - He said that I should have my bath ready and waiting for when DP walked through the door after work and just go and get into it locking the door behind me So, I ran my bath all ready for 4.30pm and then got a text saying he had gone to the pub straight from work Told him I was waiting for a bath and he text me at 7pm to say that I should put my bath on now as he was on his way home.

He gets back, I jump in the bath - and have to get out 10 minutes later as the baby is crying, the sort of crying when you can tell he is being left to cry. I look out the bedroom window and see DP down the end of the garden on the phone and smoking. DS is no where to be seen. And I lost my temper I called out the window that his son was crying and wrapped a towel round me and went downstairs to get him, just as DP went to pick him up. I got him first though and said i'd just take him up with me, DP tried to say he hadn't heard him but I had been listening to him crying for 10 minutes and I know for a fact you can still hear him in the garden. Pathetically I sat on the bed, dripping wet, rocking my baby and sobbing my heart out He did come up a few minutes later (when he had finished his phone call!) but I asked him to leave me alone. He couldn't understand why I was upset.

Went back downstairs when DS had calmed down and it was time to feed him so started to do that when DP walks in having cooked dinner (he was feeling guilty) and then had a strop that I wouldn't stop feeding him mid-feed to eat the dinner - I didn't want it by that point, eventually DS and I just went up to bed. He came up about 11 and was giving me hugs and stroking my back as I was trying to sleep - His way of saying sorry, but I am past caring. I think he actually wanted sex but I am far to scared of my insides falling out for one thing, wanted to sleep for the hour I had left until DS woke up to be fed, and didn't want him near me anyway! I didn't get chance to talk to him about how often he is out and how little he does with DS last night so will have to talk to him tonight. It does feel though that it would be easier on my own. I do everything myself anyway. We are the same age so he has no excuse in being younger. He also does sod all with my other DC, but then they are not his.

Wow, maybe not such a short post

Huge congratulations on the baby news!! Glad Jasmine has been spotted, was worried for her.

I think DS may have reflux as he has been throwing up alot after every feed, had to change his baby grows each time and bath him, don't know where it is all coming from, my boobs don't look big enough to hold all that milk! Plus, he cries quite a bit and doesn't sleep well, has hiccups alot - all symptoms, so might try and get a doctors appointment for him just incase. Other than that, he is still a delight and the light of my life.

Have we got anyone in labour? Will have to read the thread properly!

Loving all the photos on facebook too, I don't get time to post on their really but get the email notifications so see all the pics that way. I do think our antenatal thread has produced the best looking babies not that i've seen any other threads babies (I am sure they are all gorgeous)

Looking forward to more birth stories!

Oh Prisoner your post really upset me - I'm so sorry
Want to just give you a big hug right now - what an arse - I really don't know what to say. (((((())))))

Thank You for all the encouragement folks. No progress yet just still feeling crampy now and again - really hope it develops. Am going to go visit my friend with her newborn for lunch as don't think sitting around waiting will keep me sane! Feeling eagerly desperate probably doesn't help

prisoner your DP needs a proper kick up the arse! It sounds like he hasn't changed his life at all, and you are coping with everything yourself. Even if you didn't have a newborn he is not giving you the consideration or time you should a partner. Has he always been like this or is he reacting to the daunting thought of being a parent? I send a massive hug!!!!!!!

ttl sounds like things are really progressing for you! Keep your mum at bay she doesn't sound conducive to good pregnancy hormones ;)

Prisoner - I am with Sassa and Couriselle - I want to hug you AND give your DP a kick up the arse!!
Was his brother sympathetic with you then? Would it be worth asking him to have a word with his bro?

MoP - you and Theo look fab!!

Wow quiet on here today! Glad to see about the 2 new arrivals on Facebook though :)

millie I think mn has been down this afternoon so that may explain lack of posts. It is really nice seeing photos on facebook, it was a great idea creating the group.
I'm still crampy but no change or progression :( am bouncing away trying to encourage things along! please please please!