November 2011. Bumps, kicks and less feeling sick.

[Missyraines]

Thought I'd take the plunge and go for it.

Having a terrible day today. After my lovely dinner last night I went to sleep with a slight worry that the gallbladder may complain. Well I woke at 3am, 5am, 6am when I buckled and took paracetamol then lay awake until OH got up at half 7.

At 9am the agony was too much in my stomach and side so I took the codeine. Unfortunately the nausea was so bad I had to be sick but wasn't sure if the tablet was in or out. So couldn't take another one. Pain only eased when I made OH pull over and I barfed all over the road (sorry TMI) tablet seemed to do nothing.

Got to amnio appt and after 2 mins Dr said she wouldn't do it - no access. So consultant asked why we are doing amnio - what was our nuchal/bloods risk. Had to explain I wasn't offered the screening because we were doing amnio. She thought this was wrong - big bloody help to me eh?

So I have now had the blood test (too late for nuchal) if I'm high risk from that then I fly back from holiday for amnio next week. If low risk then I have a choice. Lots of tears today, this is the 2nd time I've built myself up for this test just to be turned away, so disappointing. Blood had to be taken from my knuckles again as veins have all disappeared. So sore.

PMA has disappeared. Sorry for laying out my misery here.

PamSco big hug for you!

Oh Pam I'm so sorry. If I could lend you one of my veins, I would. They are seriously prominent. A few years ago now a friend of mine grabbed my wrist and said, Oh, can I practice taking blood from your veins, they're fantastic. Had to hastily hide wrists and say 'practice? Not a chance, I'm not a pin cushion!'.

Do you have any more appointments re your gallbladder and if anything can be done? I can't imagine what you are going through. I'm glad you've got a supportive OH to lean on.

My PMA today is
Realised this morning my sore throat has disappeared over past couple of days.
DD has started to crawl (finally at 13 months). Sooo cute to see the big grin on her face whilst she slow crawls around the room.
I won £25 on premium bonds - woo!
Only 6 days until anomoly scan

I'm just about to have a afternoon nap (anyone else feel like they hit a brick wall at around 2pmish and really need a nap?) Luckily DD naps now too.

Happy Friday everybody! Hmm, making me think of crunchies...

Afternoon Ladies, hope you're all ok.

pam so sorry you're being messed about so much and while you're ill, I really hope it's all sorted soon. My veins disappear as well, i keep having it taken from the back of my hand.

terrys wow that's early, do you mind if i ask how come you're going on mat leave so soon? sorry if you've already been asked that.

crazy I lost my mum in January, 6 weeks before I found out i was pregnant. I completely empathise and was actually diagnosed with adrenal exhaustion (last year was a hell of a year). So I'm sending you all the non MN-y hugs I can muster, and to your mum. I too found exercise really helped and have been doing yoga and having massages to help .....

Ladies, its been a bonkers day. As well as being 19 weeks tomorrow, I am getting married a week tomorrow and moving from one side of the country t'other in 14 days. yes. I am bonkers. The joys of being a (soon to be) army wife.

I was all for the very low key, Im wearing a blue dress, not looking remotely wedding-y thing. And then monsoon got me ....and now i seem to have bought a beautiful grecian wedding dress (in a 10 - whoop whoop), grecian sandals from dune and a grecian hairband ...hmm.....whats happening to me?!!!

pamsco if i could jump in a car and bring you a box full of whatever might make you feel better (not sure what that is but im sure we could find something) i would ....i think yours may be a 'ask DH to do whatever he can do to pamper you' moment ...even if all you can manage is sofa, blanket, dvd, cup of tea

hope everyone else is having good days - am looking forward to 20 week scan on Tuesday

Hello ladies!

I'm excited to hear how the 20 week scans are kicking off and how many people find out Vs waiting for the result. Tis nice to have the choice. Pamsco, are you serious? They take the blood from your knuckles? I really hope these gall stones exit your system quickly, it sounds awful.

I have skived off work early today which is nice, got offered a seat on the tube this morning for the first time! For some reason I rejected it, and he looked all worried, so then I said, it's alright I am pregnant, so then he told me I had to sit down which was nice. Made me go bright red and start sweating profusely though. i'm glad I usually cycle/bus it in, tis much less stressful!

I'm feeling very positive at the moment, we have a big list of house jobs and things to buy over the next few months and I won our first purchase - tumble dryer off ebay for £100, I was going to buy it new for £300 so very happy with that :) Now just need to work out how to pick it up coz I don't think it's going to fit in my mini... We're going to buy paint at B&Q in the sale this weekend, and maybe order our Ikea kitchen too - whoop!

I have made a giant spreadsheet project plan which is also like a countdown to the baby coming and it's nice that it's kicked off.

Also, our friends are having a bbq tomorrow which I'm looking forward to and my boyfriends mum is coming over from DK tonight and she's very excited about the baby, this'll be the first time she's seen the bump and first time she's a grandma or (mormor in Danish). Fun times..

Hope you all have nice weekends ahead of you

I think I said nice about 30 times in that post, will give myself a slap.

PamSco sorry you're having such a crap day. Hope people in RL are treating you well, and that things get better soon.

Smilingcl had to laugh at what you said about the tube! I'm glad you told the man in question as he must have felt so embarassed! And so many people don't offer at all because they think they'll offend.

I'm going to have the opposite problem. As a fat "larger" woman I don't think it's that obvious I'm pg and I suspect it'll stay that way for a while yet.

Well the midwife went fine. She is lovely and was happy to take the time to answer my questions. Was really concerned when I asked for the blood test, wanting to make sure we both understood what it meant and what it could lead to. I think it's good that they don't treat it as automatic in a way, so they make you think about why you're getting the test. But thankfully she could do it then and there, so I don't need to make yet another appt. :)

Hi all! Mental busy few days so just trying to catch up last few pages. Pam sorry you're not feeling great...taking blood from knuckles sounds horrendous! Blue just started feeling movements this last week...I'm told it's normal for this to be later when it's your first as it is for me...you must be well used to all the wriggling round now if it's been going on since 12 weeks. Still feels weird to me!! Good weird tho of course.
Crazy-so sorry to hear about your mum. Hope you've got lots of support.
Bron-hi! Also a first timer so no advice but good to read everyone elses tips in answer to your qu.
Bit tricky looking back when using phone but good opportunity to catch up as on train to London at mo...meeting dh who's been on a course and spending weekend there. Be nice to catch up with some friends who've not seen since baby news...wonder what they'll think to the bump!

Ooh PamSco you poor thing. Sounds like a horrid, horrid, horrid day. I hear you on the blood taking thing, it took nine attempts at my first booking appt but thankfully not from my knuckles - must have been awful. And please don't beat yourself up about the painkillers I've heard that gallstones are about as bad a pain as you can have - similar to having a coronary. Huge unmumsnetty hugs to you.

So sorry you're having such an awful day pam I know how painful taking blood from the hand/knuckles can be, that on top of the gall stones and being messed about when you had prep'd yourself for such a difficult test. Hope that you manage to have some time out to relax whilst on holiday.

Talk about giving yourselves a lot to do lk I do hope that the wedding and move go well.

smiling if you hadn't have pointed it out I wouldn't have noticed how much you used the word nice!! Glad you are having a nice day though

Well this week has been a lot less stressful at work, has almost been too quiet in comparison to last week!!! Managed to get off early yesterday which meant I arrived early for aquanatal....lots of chat time :) It was a really good session, think I am going to really enjoy my Aqua evenings...even baby started joining in with moving about as soon as I hit the warm water :o
Also managed to record baby's heartbeat onto the computer using the doppler - now have it on my phone too so can listen to it whenever I feel the need to relax :) Sent a clip to my mum and got a tearful phonecall in response...it is the first of her grandchildren that she won't be at the scans for but with the others she hadn't heard the heartbeat so it was something a little special for her.

Anyway off to make 3 different cakes for 3 different people's birthday this weekend!!!

Just met the Mum of one of ds3's friend's in the supermarket. She has four boys, is expecting her fifth baby at the beginning of November, will be having a planned CS, is having a tubal ligation and is going to the same hospital as me! >>

Pam sorry to hear of puking amnio knuckles pain horror. What the he'll does no access mean exactly anyway?

Yay for Grecian goddess wedding if it was me now I'd be having a waddling!

Good PMA day for me,looking forward to a chilled weekend, wish the weather would cheer up tho.

P.s what does it feel like after the bubbly flutters? I haven't had them but swear I am being kicked today. Is that possible?

Also another question, anyone braved an nct sale?

Chipmonkey you got me thinking there, I cant rem the twilight zone music so I'm just going ooooooweeoooo in head

folic I can feel definite movements at times, sometimes it feels as though baby moving from one side to other or top to bottom (normally at the most awkward time as often just as I'm getting into an odd position to do something to a patient). Other times it is a very definite kick/punch, though these tend to catch me by suprise!!! There are times though when it is still fluttering as well - think for me it depends where baby is to & how big baby's movements are to what I feel :)
I'm suprised at how, despite being 18+5, much I already recognise the movements that baby is making & can tell where baby is lying...I am loving getting to lnow my active baby (really think the doppler has helped it all become real)

That sounds ace bumps, i feel like I've never been that knowledgeable about my baby bump. Hope it comes at some point!

folic don't worry hon, you'll get to know it as it grows. each pg is different, i've felt this one in a completely different way to ds. i didn't get many flutterings this time it seemed to go straight to thumping me.

lktoday oooh wedding plans, is the dress on the website?

i'm feeling really weird today, head feels funny and i feel really dizzy. we're going to be out all day today as well for dss's birthday celebrations.

Thank you all you lovely lovely people. I couldn't reply yesterday as emotions ran high (cried at every post - dafty) so I mostly slept and drank apple juice until bed time. I'm doing 3 days with no solids except for grapes, nectarines, strawbwrries and cherries as I've proved these don't cause pain.

I was in the supermarket yesterday like a zombie when I passed Complan - anyone else remember that powder drink? I've bought a box so at least I can stop stressing about vitamins.

Slowly bringing PMA back up to speed.

Folic no access is my term. I have the placenta lying across the front and it goes nearly the full side to side. There is a tiny window of uterus at the front where the placenta hasn't covered. They need the womb to expand to make the window bigger as they don'[t want to put the needle through the placenta as this increases the risk of miscarriage. Problem is the bump just isn't growing. Baby is, but bump isn't so the window is still small.

Hiya all, Pam gosh what a truly horrid time you are having, I really hope you are feeling better soon :( Don't feel bad for not having loads of PMA, I think that you can be forgiven! I have awful veins byt never had the knuckle treatment, but you totally have my sympathy.

I am not entirely sure I can feel the bump kicking? Makes me worried at times but as I have a million hospital appointments am sure that if I mention it my mind will be put at rest.

Am waiting anxiously for payday and OH and I have decided to get a doppler. so by next weekend hopefully I can hear the hb at home!

Very glad it is the weekend, havent any plans apart from a takeaway as a bit of a treat. Spent this week upping my intake of all things healthy, getting out the birthing/gym ball and spending some time on there and trying to get my new project at work up and running. Where is the time going this year?!

Lk the dress etc sounds lovely, I hope you have a fab time and all the other commotion goes well.

Have a fabby weekend everyone :)

Hi all

Got my doppler yesterday and was very excited at first, but had several attempts now and can't seem to find the heartbeat... :( I know the baby is in there, I can feel and hear it move, just don't have a clue how it is positioned. I think I can hear the bloodflow, or is that the heartbeat?
I'm not really worried, but I thought I would hear the heartbeat quite clear. When I listen to my own heart, it sounds really quiet as well.
Luckily I have my anomaly scan next week, where we will be able to see the little one again!

Hope everyone has a nice weekend!

Hi bluetinkerbell. I've become a bit of an expert with the ole doppler. I've found that baby oil works much better than the provided gel. I first found the heartbeat just on my right side just above the err hairline. Don't ask me where if you've had a Hollywood though. That is also where I regularly find my hb so don't get confused. Another time it was more central. I push down firmly and move extremely slowly around. I'm sure you will find it soon. You'll hear it faintly at first but then turn the volume up. Careful not to blast your ears though. Good luck :)

Sorry to hear about your bad day pamsco. Hope you are feeling a bit better today.

Crazy so sorry to hear about your mum. Hopefully your pregnancy will give her something positive to think about.

Lktoday your dress sounds lovely.

Have exhausted supply of codeine after having to take max dosage yesterday after sneezing caused me to curl up in ball of pain. Pretty sure have torned stomach muscles again. Pma are dh making me breakfast and lunch in bed and running me a bath. If pain persists then will take maternity leave as soon as possible. Think 11 weeks is earliest.

Many many thanks for everyone's postings re induction. I am trying to do lots of reading before making a decision. Think elcs may pose less risk to baby than induction but again need to read more on this. Induction doubles risk of emcs. Happy to take more risk on me if less on baby.

I have also ordered a doppler so hoping I will be able to hear something with it although babs has stepped up the activitiy in the last few days.

Went for a lovely walk today in a forest park, had a dubious coffee and nice muffin from their coffee shop, felt very queasy driving home, threw up said coffee and muffin as soon as I got home, then went to bed for a couple of hours. Dh ordered fast food and brought me up a kebab and chips in bed after which I felt better.

So much for "feeling less sick" !!

I'm a few days behind here but there is so much going on I feel I want to comment half way through my reading so I dont forget it all. Firstly, Crazy, I didnt see your first post, but I'm sorry about your mum. It must be such an emotionally confusing and difficult time for you all. I hope you find the best way through it you can.
Secondly, this anxiety thing, thats been my big problem since (well, realistically before, but MUCH worse now) my son was born. The doctor kept saying "post natal depression" and I kept saying "depression because I am so miserable being this anxious all the time!" And I am really worried about it getting even worse with the next one too. Not a huge consolation to not be alone, but somehow, a little one.
As for this discussion about the inductions, personally, thank you to those who shared your stories so frankly and perhaps helping me to see a side of induction that had become a little lost in my desire NOT to have one. Dont be afraid to get up on those soapboxes when its so important!
And as for my best piece of advice for the first time, I'm pretty much devoid. Except that, and I know it sounds grim, but it was something I could have done with coming to terms with sooner, you have to get used to living with that fear that something is going to go wrong - it never goes away! I kept thinking "ok, after THAT milestone, I can chill out". My son is nearly 20 months, my second pregnancy is 16 weeks, and I am still, and always will be, scared I am going to loose them at any moment. Kind of just got to get on with loving them and enjoying them and taking the biggest risk in the world anyway. Although today I have already given myself a moment of unbearable dread by imagining BOTH my children being off on gap years or similar at the same time in untold danger! You know, like pickpockets or bed bugs.
Damnit, I knew there was something else I would forget. Hmm.