Mad March in the PESH deli; in like a lion, out like a lamb?

[Medee]

BESH BAYBEES

dontrythisathome, girl born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April.
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8.
CurlyCasper, girl, born June 24.
CUNextTuesday, boy, born June 29.
AlpinePony, boy, born 1 July.
Carrots, boy, born July.
IggyPiggy, girl, born July.
Cosmosis, boy, born Sept 5.
Backinthebox, boy, born Sept 7.
Skatergrrrl, girl, born Sept 10.
VAG, boy, born Oct 2.
Silversky, boy, born Nov 1
SomethingSuitablyWitty, girl born Nov 2
okiecokie, girl, born Nov 12
Honeymoo, boy, born Nov 11
ReginaMonologue, boy, born Nov 13
Maswera, boy, born Dec 24
PollyPoo, girl, born Jan 5
MrsFC, boy, born Jan 7
ChoChoSan, girl, born 6 Feb
Ginhag, boy born 11 Feb
Muser, girl, born 15 Feb
CluckyKate, boy, born 18 Feb
Perfect Dromedary, boy, born 23rd February

UPDIFFED

Medee, Gah! Top of the list! Was due March 12
Casserole, cracking open the sunroof on March 31
Scorpette, thinking of displaying her enorma-bump at freak shows, due 18th May.
Laurielou, the unmarried hussy with the "surprise" diff, due 31 May (ish)
Rocketleaf, sprouting out all over the place, due 1st June.
TwinkleToes, supergluing her fanjo shut, due 20 June.
Orchid, hoping for a zen like child, due 1st July
Ginfox, loving the new mega-boobs, due 12th July.
LadyGoneGaga, Has lost her waist, due 24 July
Ivegotmrbitey, appears to have eaten posh spice, due 27th July.
Milanomum, eating for 7, due Aug 6th
Owlbooty, suddenly weeble-shaped, due 7th August
Ocarina, there's a what in there?! due late August
Mountie, too shy to shine, due Autumn
Truffkin, growing a padawan, due 17th November

scorp No no I'm not offended, honest!

Ha ha casp. Think of the drunken nights the deli could host with a wheelchair on site!

Can we borrow the chair to jump the queues at Alton towers? Oh wait differs trip to AT bit pointless right? We could go on the tea cups I suppose :o

Sorry curly I have no experience with polyps bit sounds like score has reassured you. Hope it's as minor as can be and as pain free ax pos.

score it wasn't too bad tbh. Lasted for about ten minutes but wore off as soon as I sat down so the changing position obviously helped. Been feeling lots more pressure low down on my bladder and pelvic area in just the last few days so think it's sprout getting herself teed up! Also just felt her push her feet out right over on my right side so it's obviously getting more cramped in there :)

Just running in quickly to say YAY to cinco and medee in particular

Also while we're giving stuff away, is anyone seriously planning a homebirth at the moment? I have a hippobirfing Homebirth preparation CD if anyone wants it. Free to good home...

Gah, gotta run, small person screaming.

Cheers rocket. Hope the BHs don't become a PITA. You never know, some of you might fancy a trip to AT if you go overdue. I went about two weeks before conception. Probably just as well I did, because the adrenaline junkie in me has been fading fast.

Is it wrong that I miss having BH? I just LOVED being pregnant, despite the SPD and high blood pressure. Actually, speaking of SPD, I went for my third run yesterday (woot!) and last night I woke up almost crying with a flare up of the SPD pain, not good. Hoping that doesn't happen again...

Wol I think we are on the mend ta. Boo has been much better today - she has gone from clingy and cuddly to fecking annoying. Much more like her old self. Although I still have a sore throat I don't really feel too bad but don't tell TG that as I've guilted him asked him to do the late feed again.

scropes I'm sorry the chat with consultant didn't go to plan. It really bloody annoys me that women are supposed to be given choice about where and how they give birth, but actually that is a crock of shit. Maybe llike FP says your physio could exert some pressure?

Cinco can i ask if you were still having the needles when you had the IVF? And if you were having any other kind of treatment or taking supplements? Sorry for being nosy. Am hoping to start acupuncture degree in September and obv fertility treatment is of major interest to me - I've got my college interview this week. Feel the woo baby, feel the woo!

Morning!

Thanks for giving us the details Cinco, lovely story.

Meds I have everything crossed that today is the last day of antibiotics & MiniMed can finally come back home. Good girl that she saves poonami for MrM.

Scorps sorry your consultant chat didn't quite go to plan. Good news on the crutches though - you'll still be a sexy bee-atch.

Rocket ooooooh, BH! Ante natal said these can happen any time from about 30 wks, so I'm not sure if I had one the other night. But I was half asleep so didn't fully register. I just know my tummy became rock solid & a bit stabby.

So......... different wobble alert. Saw MW yesterday - HB, BP, wee, measurements - all fine & dandy. She had a good ole prod to find position of baby & said she thought head was heading south. Then felt further up tummy & pulled face. She asked where I was feeling most of my movements - which is lower tummy - & said she thinks Bug is breech . Then the infamous "don't worry about that now" line, as s/he can still turn. Of course I had to ask what happens now. Unless MW is 100% sure of position at my 37 week appt she'll send me for scan. If breech they'll try & turn it, if Bug doesn't want to play it'll be elective c-section. Now, as you'll know it was only last week I said this option seriously hadn't entered my brain, so I was very to have it spoken out aloud by a medical type. Was very upset all night & rubbish sleep. So now I feel rubbish today.

My PG Bible says you can do these stretch exercises to give baby a bit more room to move around, so that's what I'll be doing from now.

I hadn't realised how much I'd wanted a water birth until now.

I know in my head that safe arrival of Bug is most important thing, c-sections are no less "birthy" & that many a greater PESH before me has had one & it's all been fine. If only I could get that logic through to my heart & emotions then it would be fine. I feel ridiculously upset about this

Then I had a stoopid call from M&P about our delivery, which I thought was all booked for 4 May. She confused the hell out of me - I think basically she needed my authority to press button to start delivery paperwork yesterday, as that apparently takes 14 working days to sort prior to delivery of goods. Put it this way, if I don't get stuff on 4 May there's going to be a whole lot of whoop-ass going on.

And breathe......................

Morning Lozzer. So sorry you are feeling rubbish. The midwife might have been wrong - that happened to me first time round. And even if she was right, there is lots you can do to get baybee into the right position. Check out the spinning babies website I know that having an elcs is major surgery, but if it how Bug chooses to come out there is not much to be done about it. And you will be just fine - once you are cuddling and sniffing her little head, all else will cease to matter. And then MrLoz will have to be your slave wait on you while you recover. Would some gin soaked donuts and a quick grope help?

rocket In time-honoured ESH tradition, I did indeed go to the fair when diffed. I looked at the pictures showing "no pacemakers", "no midgets" and thought that the pregnant woman was showing far more than I was, so I went on the rides anyway. Bear loves being bounced around and laughs his little head off. I couldn't honestly see how going on a roller-coaster was going to make my baybee fall out.

lozzer Bear went breech at ~32 weeks - due to I think spinning babies. I was scrubbing dog poo (very sick doggy) from the carpet and maybe it was a reverse spinning baybee thing. I was told if he hadn't turned it'd be c-section. However he was back again head down at 34 weeks, I'm not sure I'd want an EVS - they can apparently be very painful, as it was, I was vaguely aware of being in a lot of pain one night when I was sleeping - and I think that was probably the night he turned back down. What about a dip in your local pool? Perhaps the weightlessness will confuse the bug?

Can you believe that BB will be 14 weeks old tomorrow? Where has the time gone? She is currently in her play gym, kicking, cooing and batting at toys, smiling away at me. I rarely think about when she was born loz and I don't feel gutted that I didn't get my water birth (again!). The further away I get from it, the less importance it has. Well obviously the fact I gave birth is immensely important, but the manner in which she arrived no longer has any importance iyswim. Sorry, that sounds really patronising. Hopefully you won't be needing an elcs anyway, but if you do, I just want to make you feel better about it. I'm just not vey good wiv the words. Baby brain continues even after you lay unfortunately!

PS loz I was faaaaaaar more frightened of being "made" to vaginally give birth to a breech than being sliced & diced!

Thanks Pol & Alps. I know my thinking isn't anywhere close to being logical!

I will check out that website, go for a swim, have a very stern word with Bug & ultimately not care how s/he makes an entrance into this world. Mr Loz already said if I have to stay in hospital when I come home the house will be packed with pate & soft cheeses. He's half way there, I expect that even if I have an easy sneezy home in 2 hours water birth .

In the meantime a gin soaked donut & quick grope will do just the trick.

Tell him not to forget the gin! And who said you have to be logical when diffed? It is the one time we are allowed to be completely hormonal, unreasonable and menkul. (apart from the 2ww when ttc obv!) How much longer at work now laurie? Come here then...

Aw, Lozza - Bug has plenty of time to turn around yet. I'm like you in that I don't really want to think about what happens if Owlet misbehaves and is the wrong way up - ELCS seems like something other people do if you know what I mean. Having said that, at the end of the day a breech that is known about and ELCS would always be my preference over a breech that wasn't spotted and a delivery that goes tits up because of it as I'm sure anyone's would be.

Good work Mr Loz on the pate and cheeses plan though. Can we get him to train the other PESHmenfolk?

Poo BB sounds absolutely snuffleable and gorgeous. Can't wait for those smiles; that's got to be the best thing ever :)

She is most lovely Booty. Smiles are fab but giggles are AMAZE! I sit her on my jellybelly tum and bounce her up and down and she laughs sooo much. And then I laugh because she is just so adorable, and then then she laughs even more because I'm laughing, and so it continues. She is bloody LUSH I tell thee. :-)

Morning all, how are you feeling today loz? I have been told to swim as much as I can to get the baybee pointing the right way if that helps? Mr loz sounds pretty fabby, will he also be getting in the shellfish?

I had a similar if basically completely different time with the MW yesterday. All was going peachy until she examined me, did the face and asked if there was a family history of big babies. I went rather pale and she said it wsn't anything to worry about (hollow laugh) but that he feels bigger than average for dates. So I went home and cried all night about the enorma-baby that is bound to be too big for a regular birth. I have pulled myself together a bit today and poll's comments about the smiling and snuffling have given me a bit of perspective. Not that you need to pull yourself together lozzer I just mean that I am completely over reacting! I just hate the face from health care professionals!

Show us your crutch score Consultant sounds useless, can you demand an urgent second opinion? Where was the helpful one?

In better MW news, the minibus trip to North Wales has been forbidden by the midwife. Not that differs can't travel obv but ideally not in mini-buses with no leg room, no toilet, no across the body seat belt, no reclinability and no control over stopping to stretch legs and restore circulation. Am most relieved , now just have to tell horrible new manager.

Whoop! I am, Pols - would be ace to see pic, the giggles sound FAB :)

There is no way they can possibly know whether Biteybach is going to be large or small, tis far too bloody early for that sort of comment. And even if he is a giant, big baby does not, by any stretch of the - ahem - imagination - mean a difficult birth. Sometimes dinky babies get very stuck and the bigger ones just sail out without a hitch. I am fully expecting Owlet to be massivehuge chunky baybee as that seems to run in the family. Joy!

Hoorah for the absence of North Wales trip btw

Aw, Loz, you might get that sneezy waterbirth after all; there's still plenty of time for Bug to turn. Get on your hands and knees a lot - am sure Mr Loz won't mind, hurhur I will say one thing, however, about breech births -you know how I always say I'm scarred for life after hearing about my Mum's horror-birth of my brother? It was a vaginal breech delivery. Please go for the elcs. I will say nuffink else, as this is my personal freakiness.

I know exactly how you feel about the horrid feelings around the birth you want slipping out of your grasp. The bastard SPD is clouding all feelings of control and excitement and proactive-ness re: labour for me, so I feel your pain

BTW, ta for the compliment. I shall mainly use the crutches for 'innocently' tripping up annoying teenagers, buahaha.

Wise words about birth, Pol. When you've not done it before, labour seems the big event cos it seems so huge and scary, etc., but the big event is getting your baybee, innit. I can't believe lovely BB is 14 wks already! She is gorgeous - you sho' make some beautiful girls :) (like mother like daughters).

I worry that the closest I'll get to an easy sneezy waterbirth is pissing myself when I have a summer cold...

Thanks everyone for being kind about my menkal.

Pol I have 8 more days in work if you include today. But a few early finishes so prolly a bit less really. Cannot wait!

Laughing BB sounds absolutely adorable, & you're right, Bitey puts a bit of perspective on things.

Totally agree that a known breech is better than that coming as a surprise during labour.

So that's 2 votes for swimming. I'd planned to start when I'm on mat leave - I'm just so blardy knackered after working all day the evenings are a bit of a write off at the moment. But I will definitely be going from next week, so hopefully Bug will behave. Obviously this awkwardness is a trait from Mr Loz

Bitey good luck telling horrible new manager that you aren't going on that fun filled trip to N Wales. S Wales is much better anyway

Yay for trip cancellation, Booty! But if there's FB-friending to be had, ignore me and my crutches of doom at your peril...

x-posts Scorps if Bug remains breech I will definitely be having elcs. No fooking way will I try pushing an upside down baybee out of my shebang. I don't want a water birth that much

Bitey sorry, so selfish of me not to comment on your big baybee worries. I've decided MW's like to scare tell us worse case scenarios so we think the actual event is a breeze. Same as me, you have plenty of time for things to change.

Bitey Big babies can be easier to birth as they are stronger and can manouvre themselves better. Also bigger babies are easier once out - they feed a bit less often and are stronger and sturdier so meet their milestones etc earlier. Their poitioning is key because small babies can be really hard if they are OP or asynclitic or any of those things.

If they were really concerned they would send you for a growth scan anyway. Just to reassure you my bump was on 95th centile with MiniG. He arrived on time, vaginally and a respectable (and not scary) 8lb 2oz despite me freaking out.

I want to snuggle Pol's baybee. She sounds lurvely.

Loz as others have said still lots of time to turn yet. Also think about having moxibustion done (from an acupuncturist) - all sounds very woo but they have really high success in turning breech babies.

Bitey Speaking as the proud owner of a monster baby delivered by c-sec, it's not all bad!

As the theme of the morning seems to be c-secs, here are my thoughts from t'other side. I still have blah moments where I feel that nothing about this experience has been the way I planned or wanted it: I was going to a birth centre where TNB would have stayed in the bed with me and it was all going to be hearts and flowers and kittens. Instead, I got a planned c-sec and two days in a noisy, public maternity ward. I was going to exclusively bf while staring lovingly into my baby's eyes. A) Physically impossible because his head doesn't face me B) had nightmarish time with pumping and dehydration and a sleepy baby who I was inadvertently starving. And yes, in the end you get a baby, but it has taken me the last six weeks to make some sort of peace with how he arrived.

The one thing I would say is I'm bloody grateful that medical tech can pick up problems and that midwives noticed I was big for dates. Because the alternatives are pretty shitty. I spoke to an acquaintance the other day who'd delivered a 5kg baby vaginally and she's waiting for reconstructive surgery. While I'm at home with a healed c-sec scar, an intact pelvic floor and a huuuuge baby...

Oooh all this talk of birth, feels like it's not really going to happen to me. I'm still getting jealous of differs and then remembering that I am one. Keraaaazeeee.

lozzer Really hope bug takes a dive head down soon, sounds like time to get a scrubbing those floors 8 days left at work, sounds fantastic but also sounds like you're more than ready. Time to relax...but don't forget the being on all fours a lot.

Baby smiles and giggles always have had me in fits of laughter. I can't help chuckling every time when that ad comes on for baby milk or whatever it is. Soppy cah DHB that I am. I've been in hysterics with my nephew before now, I think he thinks I'm tapped.

And Rocky 34 weeks this week. Did I read that correctly??????? You must be getting so incredibly excited. I saw your blog, the stencils look great, I love the birds. I said to Mr C we could commission you for one of your mobiles. He reminded me you'd probably be quite busy! I'm not sure we'll be able to come up before as time is racing away but we are definitely up in your neck of the woods in July so could pop over for a cuppa and cake...and cuddles....spesh TB

Pol I did indeed continue with the needles up to and throughout IVF although had to stop once diffed as had run out of money. Obviously I don't know if it was the magic ingredient, I'm sure the medical bit about putting an embryo back in me had a lot to do with it but I do know it really helped to keep me relaxed, and as focused on a positive outcome as possible (until my meltdown of course). Needles lady was such a great support in talking everything through so I would say any acupuncturist providing help with fertility problems should have good listening skills and be very empathatic to the issues. I have no doubt you'd be great. I was taking the pregnacare conception vits as well as high strength fish oils for the DHA and EPA. Oh and I started on low dose aspirin as well.

Blimey - I'd forgotten how time consuming it is trying to keep up with everyone! Back soon :)

Oooh Loz, liking the sound of only 8 more days in work . I have 19 days left after today what with all the bank holidays and Easter etc. I'm slightly scared by this! Hope the swimming sorrts bug out and all this talk of being breech comes to naught.

Bitey I agree - there is no-way they can tell how big the baby is! A friend of mine hadthe opposite over Christmas. She was told at 38 weeks that baby was measuring small and she got all upset. Turns out he was 9lb something when born a week later so it's not an accurate thing by any means. I was also told that mini O was big throughout the later stages of PG. Like you it put the fear of God into me as I am only 5ft! He was 7lb 12oz as it happens so again, bump size was not really any relation to what he was. Anyhoo, good news on not having to go on a coach trip!

Polster I'm on t'other side and would love to see BB if you'd have me? Any notion of me being a DHB have certainly gone out of the window and I do love a good coo over little 'uns

Meds hope little EA is doing grand and you are very nearly on your way home with her.

Scrope sorry to hear the consultant was less than helpful. 'Tis very frustrating for you. I do hope the crutches help you though when you finally get them. Big smooches from us.

I couldn't resist and I got the newborn stuff out last night to sort through. I've kept mini O's first vest and outfit and will put it away as a keepsake, but have pretty much sent everything else to the bin or charity shop as it looks tatty/stained. Oh well, more shopping then.... I also have my 28 week MW appt tomorrow. I have to be drained of blood at this one - bleurgh! I have no idea where squidge is lying. I sometimes think it's head down, legs up, and half an hour later I think I feel the feet trying to kick the way out of the foof... can they still turn at will at this stage? I thought they were a bit more static by now?