The PESH Deli - No ESH left behind

[PerfectDromedary]

I have opened the virtual gin, found the Desperate Romantics and am about to start playing I've Never. Who's with me?

Okays, new improved NotList with added rocket caption and Twinkle. Am not going to add lorry if she is on hols and possibly still in de nile.

Any updating of due dates or captions to be done? And WHERE IS MA GIN?

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, girl born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8
CurlyCasper, girl, born June 24
CUNextTuesday, boy, born June 29
Skihorse, boy, born 1 July
Carrots, boy, born July
IggyPiggy, girl, born July
Cosmosis, boy, born Sept 5
Backinthebox, boy, born Sept 7
Skatergrrrl, girl, born Sept 10
VAG, boy, born Sept

UPDIFFED

silversky, the biggest farter, due 18 October (first baybee)
Honeymoo, 3 wees a night, due October 31 (boy)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November 14
ReginaMonologue, knows when all the sales are, due November 20 (boy)
maswera, jungle hottie - due December 11
PollyPoo, wants to name her baybee after the dog, The New Messiah is due December 25
ChoChoSan "and Lo! The lord did resurrect her petrified womb" due 31 January
CluckyKate, hatching an egg - due February 2
Perfect Dromedary, defied medical science - due February 24
Ginhag, reckless cake-carrier, due 28th Feb
Muser, will she ever stop puking? - due February 27
Medee, finally over the Haribo craving, due March 12
Casserole living on hula hoops - due April 10
MrsFC, joining whether she wants to or not, due 22 Jan
Scorpette, now carrying a RL baby in addition to Clothilda and the squid - due 19th May
Rocketleaf, no longer jealous of morning sickness - due 3 June
Twinkle Toes - superglueing her fanjo shut, due 23 June

Put 21st May, pliz, AmuseBouche :) Might as well go with what MW says.

Tell'emaboutheHONEY,Mummy, is rubbish about the MW cover crapola Still, you seem to be being very sensible and thoughtful and the MW-led unit seems the ideal solution. Now you've made the decision, you can start planning and anticipating, etc.

Okie-GO!, am not in De Nile, it just seems totally real now. Apart from the tum pain and nausea, am loving every second of it. And yes, do not talk to me about the FJ. Was just thinking about how redonkulous it is. I've bought 2 bumper packs of cheapy belly-warmers that I don't care about ruining

Talking of the tum pain, have had needling and it's virtually gone (not connected to gannet's bag of chips on way home, ahem). Of course, now the MW is behind me getting the drucks, the pain will disappear. Well, at least I hope so.

And yes, wonder where our darling VAG is. I expect she's just basking in early motherhood. Well, I hope so. Love ya, VAG!

evening all - as usual have been lurking during the day, then forgetting all I wanted to say by evening. So hello to you all!

Glad you're feeling better Scorpo - the chips have gotta help! Ooh chips and mayonnaise.... Glad all the appointments are in. What is it with people and Ms? Maybe she thinks you are a lesbian? :)

MrsFC I hope you waded into the debate and told them how fucking rude people are on the tube. I swear to god they should have a preggos only carriage. With chilled water and polo mints. And aircon.

You're all right - it is a massive relief to have finally got a plan in place. It's surprised me how much better I feel. we are feeling really excited and so much happier today now that all the indecision and insecurity is out of the way. Roll on birthing gimp stool! :)

Oooh, can I share with you all my mum's reaction to my 20 week scan pics?

I sent off scan pics to close relatives. Got some "wow, so clear, so amazing" responses.

My mother, gawd bless her, replied with "I'll take your word for it, but what's the black dot by its stomach and a bit further up?"

No "oh wow, amazing, I'm so happy", nope, straight to "what's wrong with your baby then?" Because clearly if something was wrong I'd send a pic detailing it.

Moo here is my top tip for childbirth satisfaction - make your decision and then be happy to go along with whatever the baybee does. I had No 1: Planned for quick MLU birth, got messy horrible transfer to operating theatre. There you go. I go on about it a bit, but you might have noticed I go on about a lot of stuff! No 2: Planned for hospital birth, catapulted baby across the bedroom floor instead.

You can read any number of stories on MN about women traumatised by their long labour/caesarean/fast birth/inappropriate music to give birth to. Thye are genuinely terribly upset by it - in much the same way as Kiki84 is upset by finding herself carrying a cake. I subscribe to the 'expect anything, and what doesn't kill you makes you stronger' theory. So long as you are ready for ANYTHING, you'll be fine. But it's always nice when your plan works as you hope it to .

Anyway. back to the second glass of wine. " glasses, I hear you all shriek .

2 glasses, ffs!

Box is good advice. I'm thinking that if things do go awry as they can and often do, I'm probably best off there. Marginally less traumatic hoping not having to transfer by ambulance from home worrying if we will get there in time etc. I genuinely don't have massive or perfect expectations, I'm just trying to hope for the best (hippobirthing relaxation etc) which will hopefully still give me the tools to deal with the worst... But even if the worst does happen so long as little moo is safe and well it doesn't really matter.

Weirdly I am more nervous telling my doula than anyone!! Talk about needing people's approval... what am I like?

Enjoy that wine! I had 2 small glasses tonight .

Muser my mum couldn't believe our scans either - she never had one with me or my brother, so it must be a bit weird when I've been scanned non stop throughout! Bless MuseMum, is she a bit of a worrier??

Your doula is there to help you get a Nice Birth. You don't need her approval! You DO need her support though.

Ha, yes "a bit of a worrier" would be a polite way of putting it. She worries about bizarre stuff though, when there is something to worry about she'll completely forget it, but she'll pick up on something minor and turn it into A Tragedy.

She did apologise when I told her off. Bless her.

Is troo. I know she will support me whatever, I suppose I have been so vocal and confident throughout I feel a bit telling her we've changed our minds. Who cares though, it's our decision, our birth.

What is it about mums worrying about the stuff they don't need to?! It'll be us next...

I've just spent a humilatingly enjoyable hour ironing cute clothes. It's the socks that get me.

I didn't iron the socks ok

Morning PESHs.

Seems I have turned into the snot monster. Might be change in the weather kicking off my allergies as don't think it's a cold. Am hoping it's not a cold.

Got MW appt today. Well I would if they had any appts but the MW is off sick and the one covering can only do certain hours and those hours mean that 4 appts a day have been cut. Basically it means that they don't have an appt for me til next week when I will be 40+5!! Instead I have to see the GP which is ok but I'd rather see the MW at this Late stage.

The community MW service Inhave received in terms of continuity has been appalling.

box I am with you on the expectations side of things. I have none!! Only that what will be will be and that me and the baybee are right as rain at the end of it. Everything xd - except the legs of course!!

muse Mothers eh!?

honey I totally agree with boxer, your baybee will come the way it comes and I think it's best to keep an open mind about it. Do whatever you feel is appropriate at the time - keep an open mind wrt intervention/drugs. Not sure if you've come across a poster called Riven, but she has a terrible story about being coaxed into a lentil-style homebirth (against medical advice but by well-meaning lentil-weaving friends) - her daughter suffered brain damage during the birth and the lentil-weaving friends? Abandoned her. Fucking horrific. My birth was the opposite of what I'd planned - well, actually it wasn't. I wanted a healthy baby and I got it. :)

okiecokie I am praying for your baybee. 9 quid's worth of cakes? Jesus wept. :( Surely at Hummingbird prices that's actually only a teaspoon of dessicated coconut?

Ironing socks? Oh my. I've given up even washing the new stuff - labels are ripped off and the boy is dressed.

silver Good luck today - we're all (I'm sure) getting rather impatient - any chance you can lay before the end of this thread?

Morning silver at the lack of continuity with your care, you seem to be taking it on the chin tho. I suspect I am going to have the same problem, the hospital I will have birth in (if i don't go with HB) doesn't do any of the anti natal care prior to birth, it will all take place in satellite clinics, and the MW i booked in with isn't actually my midwife, I won't see her til 16 weeks, which seems a bit disjointed. oh well.

moo that sense of relief you felt indicates you made the right decision no? I so agree with the having to be flexible thing, frankly anything could happen. I have noticed that the same attitude towards big events (weddings in particular) means people enjoy them much more, IE make a plan then just let it roll and don't worry to much if everything isn't perfect.

scorps good news on the needling working and the MW ruggs advice, heading to see my needles lady this avo so hoping she can help me a bit too.

Gawd bless your mum muse glad she saw the error tho. I still haven't told my mum yet as I suspect she will say something dismissive about it not being 'real' until after 12 weeks. Going to wait until next week when I will be 8 weeks. They have a lot on their plate at the mo so I am hoping it will cheer them up (not just give them one more thing to worry about)

Oh god. Can the universe stop being so fucking awful please? Lady on the March thread lost her baby at 20 weeks. Now lovely person on the pregnant after MC thread has had baby stillborn. Things like this just shouldn't happen.

Fucking fucking fucking hell.

Oh no that is very very :(:(:(:( not to mention fucking scary (is that terribly selfish?)

I don't think so rocketleaf. I think it's normal to find it scary. It is very, very rare for it to happen though. Which makes it all the more alarming, tragic and fucking unfair when it does.

And so we don't all wallow in despair, TinyNephew is putting on weight. Birth weight + 10g now (which I know sounds not much, but remember he was under 3lbs). He grows!

Thanks, muse needed that. spilt has been so open about what happened to her, which is amazing and she is very brave but its quite upsetting to read both for what she is going through and the fear factor. Not that I would EVER wish her not to get the support she needs from here. so nice to hear some good news! wow he must be so tiny. bless him. I guess he is still in an incubator? How long until he will be able to go home?

In my news, I have got my dating scan on the 3rd of Nov, I think thats pretty early as I will only be 9+6 but at the moments I feel the sooner the better!

He's in an incubator, but just to stay warm. He breathes all by himself.

I think he has to stay in until close to his due date, so a month or so.

Did anyone here get one of those body pillows? Are they any good? I have been trying to prop myself on an ordinary pillow a bit, but I can't get the position quite right. Thought a body pillow might be better, but they are pricey.

I heard about the lady with the stillborn baby. Is very very sad. You can't believe it happens in this day but it does - rarely though. Even my MW at last appointment was very emphatic about changes in fetal activity or lack of - you must go into hospital if you're worried about it. I have to say I found him quite erratic until much later when it was hard to miss... and even now he is a regular kicker which is good.

muse the geni is the one I bought. I don't think it's worth it though. You will need something to put between your legs as your hips can get a bit ow and need support. I can't really explain what I mean but it is so much more comfy when you first do it. But i didnt' need to until my bump was a good bit bigger. I sleep at angles on my front and have done the entire way through. Fuck knows how. I still wake up on my back. If I were you I'd buy extra normal pillows (that you can use after as well) and just have them as you need them - better and more cushiony than the body pillows in my humble opinion....

Got massive headache today - v bad night. Have had a bath, put on tracksuit and gone back to bed. Is a day of rest methinks.

rocket I had my first scan at 9+6, no dildocam and everything was great. Saw arms & legs waving & heard heartbeat and of course got a print of the scan. MW was very confident about it being viable so I shared my news then.

muser that is heartbreaking. :(