The hugely supportive thread in memory of all our twinkling little stars, bobbing sunflowers and dancing butterflies supporting those bereaved by the loss of a child

[peterpansmum]

In memory of our gorgeous Gregor

Shabs what an awful shock that was for you last night . He sounds like a lovely guy , how you doing this morning ?

Not too bad love - I hadn't seen him for many, many years, and had noticed last Christmas he hadn't put a status on for ages BUT it was still such a shock. Just clicked onto his name to have a 'banter' with him and found the awful news.

It sounds like he was one of those that was always just "there" but you didn't need to talk all the time . I am so sorry , especially finding out the way you did xx

oh my god shabster what an awful way to find out

Facebook is a very odd tool at times...

I would have thought it might have been better to have his profile removed but each to their own I guess

morning shabs, i saw you post a song for him last night but didnt make that connection. I must admit though i listened to it yet again and thought of my grandad. Just thought id post quickly as my parents will be here shortly to give us a lift for ds to go preschool

I know what you mean FM - but knowing Carl he would love that!!! Forever the Queen of the Drama

Im just so glad that we re-connected on Facebook - the outpouring of love from his students and friends on his page is an amazing tribute to him.

xx

Hello everyone.

Not here to say much, just to say "hello!" while a software update installs and prevents me working for a few minutes!

Sounds like theres some people having some really tough times at the moment (

So big hugs for all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

shabs big hugs,so sorry about your friend,im sure hes with your sons.
facebook is good for reuniting ,ive found a few of my couisons that last saw when i wasabout eight,found out their brother killed in motorcycle accident,he was a lovely lad too,
sorry everyone is having a shit time, its so bloody hard at times,innit.
i worked last nite with a lovely lady, become a granny couple of months ago, he weighed 1lb 12,he made it came home this week, im so pleased for her,was terrified she would end up same as me,im bloody amazed, i just wish jayden had made it, at moment, i know i should be grateful for what ive got,but im scared ,god how i wish i had my old life back.

hazy... it makes you want to scream - why did their baby make it and mine didnt???- doesnt it

Shabs. Im so sorry abput your friend. I was on holiday in Yorkshire once and read in a national paper that a friend had been killed in a car crash. Five youngsters in a mini metro, the driver had passed her test three days before, the car turned over and burst into flames and they were all killed. I know what a shock it can be to find out that way.

Evening ladies. Im still in a bit of a daze had to check with db that i heard right.. Magistrates are overturning the reccomended sentance from 4 weeks ago. Now reccomending a custodial sentance with a starting point of 26 weeks. His previous record was read out and I dont think he should have ever been given a license. He was stopped by police just over a week before he killed my brother and given a warning for how he was driving.We are finally getting somewhere and i hope we get the justice my darling Matty deserves. Maintained he is my dbs best friend but at least this time i was said that my db wasn't drunk. Still said he was remorseful...where were the condolences or sympathy to my family?? Malahker (thanks for that Shabs has been useful today) We go back again in 4 weeks to hear the sentence as the report needs updating before they can.

I hope he gets the maximum sentence Shelley - and never, ever forget that Karma exists - 'what goes around comes around!'

Morning girls xx

Morning all xx

Shelley , justice will be done for your brother I am sure xx

I do to Shabs. Feels better knowing that he isn't just going to get a slap on the wrist. I asked my parents if i called insult him in a different lanuage and they agreed had to do the whole dignified thing lol. So your little greek lesson was most helpful.

Busy day for me, need to the usual morning routine then get the last bits of shoppig for tonight, housework and get ready for my hen party.

shelley,karma will be done, i live for karma

I will, I also have no qualms of giving kalma a little nudge

Shelley - will try to find more Greek swear words you can say them with such feeling and, as long as nobody on the jury is Greek speaking I reckon you will get away with it.

I like the phrase 'Po, Po, Po!!' They use that to express amazement, anger, irony, sadness etc etc - I have made myself LOL now at the image in my mind of my friend Nikos saying it.

Think its the equivalent of our 'Oh my God!'

Morning all x Have been struggling this week still

Glad but sad for you shelley ifywim. And you too shabs what a shock.

Off for another walk when i drop ds1 at school. have ditched a few things that i don't really HAVE to do and trying to prioritise the things i really NEED to put my energy into.... easier said than done heh! Loads of Gregor's daffodils are out now in the woods - they're just lovely - think we'll plant more in the autumn. Its a lovely personal place to go and think about him, our memories, our now and a whole load of other shit that's still hovering around my head.... head not as heavy as it was on tuesday though!!

How's everyone else doing today? xx

Hi all.

Sorry to hear about your pal Shabba, such a shame.

I too believe in karma shelly. What goes around comes around.

I've had a shit week too PPM. I'm better than I was on Monday but I still feel blue. The only way I get through times like this is knowing that I will feel better soon.

I also allow myself to feel blue and have a wallow. I let myself feel and release the emotions, have a blub, and then eventually I start to come through the otherside.

I can picture Gregor's beautiful daff's

Wish you could come and see them ILike - they're lovely xx Been for a long walk this morning. Hang on in there ILike xxx

Ilike I think there must be something in the air this week . I woke up on monday just feeling sooo sad . I don't know what triggered it but I have felt sad most of the week . As you say we know we will come out the other side which does help but bloody hell it is shite sometimes .

PPM , the daffs do sound lovely , I am pleased to hear you managed to get out and see them .

PPM I too felt utterly awful after the first anniversary, and have done really since. I don't know why but it's as if emotionally I've been right back to just after it happened- and that's not a very nice place to be. Hang on in there- you're definitely not alone!

Ilike thanks for sharing that, it's so rare supposedly that, well, I guess I'm just curious. You certainly did the right thing as you know you tried it all. I will always have a lingering doubt that I should have tried again, but when I had the conversation with the coordinator I did not believe it would be relevant, L had been so much better, so I didn't give real consideration to my answers. Had I known I would have asked for one more DP couldn't have been the living donor in my case as he's over 50 and a total alcoholic so his liver's pretty useless. And mine, well, although I was 23 my medical history featured liver failure and abnormal liver function tests for years so it's not certain that mine would have been any good. I just feel that there are so many levels on which I did not try mybest. The living donor thing, the 3rd transplant, removing life support when I could have kept going.. etc

Sorry I'm in a right grump today! Have had what I thought was salmonella poisoning since early hours of Tuesday (following on from the golf club lunch) and I haven't been able to eat anything since MOnday. Feel pretty terrible, but worryingly J started vomiting last night- 3 huge vomits- eugh- and had a rash, andI was panicking! Since this morning though he's been OK, he's kept his feeds down and he doesn't have a temperature so hopefully he's OK. Must be viral though if he's got it too (as I am uber-paranoid about alcohol gel etc, don't think he would have caught bacterial infection from me) norovirus or something. Yes, the VIRUS word..

shabs so sorry to hear about Carl, he sounds like such a wonderful character and it's great that you were able to reconnect with him but dreadful that you found out like that, what a shock

shelley sounds like justice may yet be served. Not that anything would be sufficient justice, but a custodial sentence is a starting point and though they have sentencing guidelines it's all at the magistrates discretion, so it may well increase from 26wks when they take everything into account.

I think i've managed to upload Daffodil pics here - Can someone let me know if this works?!!

They're just beautiful PPM.