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Where are my fucking hell shoes, and other delightful phrases from my 3 year old, HEEELP!!

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gaelicsheep · 02/02/2010 23:41

What have I done? I have been known to swear out loud, in front of him, on occasion but FGS my 3 year old has a mouth like a sewer all of a sudden. I've done all the advising, telling people to ignore, don't rise to it etc. etc. But what if he blurts this out in Tesco, or god forbid at nursery?!

I have to get to bed so I'll leave you lovely ladies to ponder this one and will bump tomorrow if necessary. But someone please reply and tell me he'll forget these words if I ignore him. Please!

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penona · 03/02/2010 22:52

Not had the chance to read all of this, but I have a DS who has been known to say a contextually appropriate 'bollocks' (he is 2). Apparently you need to a. ignore it and b. start to use a different word that is just as nice to say as often as possible. Or try and fob them off with a new phrase - I am currently trialling 'oh bibbity bobs' (which admittedly does not spring to mind!!).

Ignoring it really is the key, although might be a bit late for that if DH has alreayd shown his displeasure!

Igo2work4Arest · 03/02/2010 22:57

Actually I don't think anyone is for real otherwise you wouldn't say such utter rubbish. FACT: to intentially swear infront of babies, children is wrong!!!! By accident or the heat of the moment well that is different!!! I am not condoning it but hey ho none of us are perfect but this!!!!!

Where the hell are you all from the gutter!!!!

Allets · 03/02/2010 23:03

Tee2072, how ridiculous!

They are NOT just words. Allowing a child to swear indicates that they are not being raised properly! All children experiment with "bad" words. It's up to the parents to teach their children not to use these words.

Allowing a child to swear is giving license to disrespect other people. Not what I would consider to the cornerstone of good parenting. I would not dream of calling somebody a MotherFucker because it's rude - and you know what it was my mum who taught me that around 30 years ago.

Sorry to say this, but I would most certainly judge any parent who allowed their child to swear as a matter of course. What else do you let your kids get away with?

Just words indeed!

gaelicsheep · 03/02/2010 23:04

On the contrary, I think you'll find if you re-read the thread that there are very few people who deliberately set out to swear in front of their children.

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gaelicsheep · 03/02/2010 23:12

And Allets, who on this thread has said they "let" their children swear? Ignoring something to avoid giving attention and prolonging the problem is not the same thing as allowing. Before I was a parent I thought it was, but I'd have thought most parents would know better than that.

Mummyloveslucy said ages ago that toddlers love swear words because they're full of feeling. That is so so true, and would explain why you only need to say something once for them to pick it up and run with it. Unlike the words "no" or "bed" for example, which seem to be particularly complicated for toddlers despite being so short and to the point.

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penona · 03/02/2010 23:13

I think the car is the worst place, they are quietly in the back and something happens, near miss accident or something - def the worst place to hear anger/swear words etc etc. WHen they are actually in your vision, I do seem to remember and not swear.

Perhaps the solution is to use public transport. Solve global warming and stop the children swearing. Yay!

Igo2work4Arest · 03/02/2010 23:14

There are lots who think it is ok as well!!!

Disgusting!!! None of us are perfect but to allow children to use the F word etc or laugh or whatever after the age of understaning that it is wrong is an idiot and it is people like this who got this country into such a bad place!!! I swear alot but I do not do it intentailly infront of my children. I don't say they are bad words because that is also wrong especially if you use them yourself!!! They are adult words used by adult not children!!! Sadly most of my friends know how to use bad language to enhance as opposed to degrade a sentance unlike most people on here who accept the "F" word as part of their vocabulary.

Shame on you!!!!!

Allets · 03/02/2010 23:16

Gaelicsheep - I refer to:

By Tee2072 Wed 03-Feb-10 07:57:20
Personally, I don't get it. They are just words. Yes, they be less than nice words out of a small child but to worry about the child saying them in public or at nursery? Surely there are more important things to worry about?

gaelicsheep · 03/02/2010 23:16

At the risk of digging myself an ever deeper hole of shame, I do wonder whether DS's sudden (one off use) of the invented word "fanker" had anything to do with me being nearly run off the road by a maniac driver who clearly had no clue about the concept of passing places.

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Igo2work4Arest · 03/02/2010 23:19

Actually I ment THANKFULLY not sadly!!!

gaelicsheep · 03/02/2010 23:23

But Igo2work4arest (me too btw), the age of understanding doesn't mean they understand the words they're saying. In fact in a way it might be better that they are treated as any other word, rather than making a big deal of it, as that way they might lose their appeal all the quicker. Possibly? I dunno, I'll let you know if it works.

But I can tell you that punishing him for saying rude words has not helped so far. He just shouts them all the louder.

FWIW, I don't think he would use these words at nursery. They seem to be reserved especially for me when I get home from work and we're both tired. The nursery only just recently told me what a polite boy he is to everyone, so we must be doing something right with him.

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Igo2work4Arest · 03/02/2010 23:25

Honestly try it though!!! "Bad" its like forbidden fruit. Mmmm thats an adult word one for grown ups it has a different effect!!!!

wastingaway · 03/02/2010 23:25

So I can't say Fuck, but you can call people disgusting, an idiot, from the gutter etc. Igo.

Igo2work4Arest · 03/02/2010 23:27

Also if you use a word and then say its naughty or bad etc what does that tell a child even a baby!?!?

Igo2work4Arest · 03/02/2010 23:28

I'm an adult and using it in the correct context, people will always twist words!!!

Goblinchild · 03/02/2010 23:35

Over fifty exclamation marks?

wastingaway · 03/02/2010 23:36

"people on here who accept the "F" word as part of their vocabulary." you said. Suggesting that we shouldn't say Fuck.

Kitkatqueen · 03/02/2010 23:46

morecrackthanharlem With regards your lovely comment on page 2 you have offended me, imo creating bad feeling unnecessarily can be worse than unnecessary bad language. otoh piss off.

I find it quite amusing however that someone so piously anti swearing is happy to type words that I would not speak.

If a parent in rl spoke to me about the same problem I would reply very similarly as I did in my post because guess what! At some point between learning to talk and leaving home kids are going to learn swear words. Its pretty much inevitable. Get over it. No its not nice to have kids swearing but thats what parenting is about, teaching children right from wrong, every child has to learn not to swear, I would hazard to guess that very few people would actually want their child to swear! My children now 5,4,2 and under 1 don't swear as a general rule but occasionally a word they have heard from somewhere will pop out.

Go ahead, pick holes in my post and find something that is copy and pasteable to reply with. Flame me I do not give a shit tonight.

Igo2work4Arest · 03/02/2010 23:50

Well I like to make a point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd rather use 5000! than use some of the words I've read in here tonight to make a point. Swearing is acceptable and ok! It's almost funny in toddlers if it is used in a mimicing way. But for a toddler to use foul language as part of their vocabulary is outrageous I cannot belive any decent parent cannot see that.

wastingaway · 03/02/2010 23:54

No decent parent thinks it is!!!!!!!!

tortoiseonthehalfshell · 04/02/2010 02:24

Personally!!!!! I think abuse of punctuation!!!!! shows less respect for one's interlocutors!!!!!! than a heartfelt cunting motherfucker!!!!!!!

(Goblinchild, you counted? I'm simultaneously impressed and terrified)

I'm actually pretty good about language; my daughter is only 14 mo and can't speak yet, but she's at that mimicking age where she clearly understands a terrifying amount, so I'm using the small amount of grace I have left to swap my Gods for Goshes and my Bollocks for Bothers.

Every now and then, of course, I slip. The last occasion of which was a few days ago, when I was trying to put a stack of CDs back in a box after my daughter had spilt them all over the floor. I lost my grip on them and narrowly missed her head when they fell.

Unfortunately, this was in the middle of the children's library, which was a) quiet, save for my loud 'Oh SHIT' and b) full of children under 5, their parents, and a disapproving elderly librarian.

I'm thinking of changing libraries.

blue76 · 04/02/2010 07:36

I feel disgusted when I hear children swearing. When I had dd1 (12 years ago) I did not even begin to imagine that she would use foul language; especially at a young age.

How wrong could I be? One day, when my mum was looking after her, she was trying to switch channels on the tv. When she couldn't get it to work, she huffed and said, "Fuckin hates me, that telly". A bit later on, she looked out of the window and said, "It's fuckin raining".

Being the assistant head of dd's future primary school, my poor mother went into panic mode. (Though at the time, she had to admit she found it rather amusing). I had to assure her that dd obviously saved the expletives especially for when she visited Grandma. dd was 18 months old....she hasn't sworn since.

So yes, it can be amusing when children swear, but where do you draw the line??

blue76 · 04/02/2010 07:53

Well said kitktatqueen

Goblinchild · 04/02/2010 08:01

Anyone antique enough to remember Mork and Mindy? Decades ago, before the internet. I started using shazbat as an expletive.
So I googled it, and I am obviously a trendsetter...
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shazbat

And I thought I was alone!

bintofbohemia · 04/02/2010 08:15

I'm with tortoise!!!!!!! No wonder the written communicative skills in this country are turning to shite!!!!!!!!!