support thread for women who are pregnant or TTC after a termination for abnormalities

[katiecubs]

Hi girls - i hope this becomes a useful area

Thanks for letting us know you are ok Littlepoot - i'm so glad to hear you were treated kindly. Have a lovely dinner and as Lins said rest up xxx

Hi LittlePoot

how are you today? hope you're doing something nice and restful and haven't had that hormonal crash yet.

Take care, and Kittens, and everyone else.

How are you doing LittlePoot?

I think I'm on a full on hormonal crash this week, I've been in a terrible mood

How's everyone else doing?

Hi Kittens. Sorry you're feeling down this week babe. I wish I could say something clever to make things better, but all I can offer is some understanding and a virtual hug. xxx You'll get through this kittens - remember that. There'll be more bumps and scrapes along the way, but we've done the worst bit, for now.

Are you planning to try again straight away? Sorry - I think we'd had this conversation before but I've forgotten.

I'm not doing too badly in general I don't think. Today's the first day I've really cried hard, but mostly I'm just a bit numb and not thinking about anything. I'm watching way too much tv, but I feel like I need the distraction. I'm trying not to think about it, because the first thing that comes into my head is the fear that this is all I'll ever know and wondering how many non-babies I'm going to have without managing to make a working one. I just can't believe having children is so difficult. It's just not meant to be like this. I'm 35 in a week and a half and the plan was to be on number 2 by now. But I'm not even sure number 1 is ever going to happen.

Not doing very well at the cheering up - sorry!

Katie - how far are you now? When is your next scan? And Allstars - are you having another one this week or did I remember that wrong? Hope you're all ok. xx

Littlepoot - I know exactly what you mean about non-babies. When people would tell me 'you can keep trying' I remember thinking at the cost of how much loss.

Kittens - sorry about the crash. It will get better.

As for me. I have an optional scan on Wednesday. I am not sure I am going to use it though. I feel so stressed just before each one and then elated during but a couple of days later I go back to worry. I might just see the midwife and listen to the heartbeat. I have started taking some iron and am feeling much less tired now. DH cooked me dinner today and I have been catching up on sleep. Physically I feel exhausted and think that it is my bodies way of making the time pass if that makes sense. I am still waiting a referral to speak to someone about how I am feeling. I am not holding out hope for a quick response though.

I hope everyone else is OK. It has been quite quiet on here lately. XX

Morning all, how was every bodies weekends?

Kittens sorry you are feeling so low ? I guess the crash is inevitable abut that doesn?t make it any easier. Do you have some work coming up this week?

Littlepoot ? I totally understand your fear (and still have some of that myself to be honest) but please don?t give up as I wholeheartedly believe it will happen for you (and Kittens). You both deserve it so much.

As for me I am doing well ? 15 weeks today. The sickness has gone now but I still don?t have a bump so to be honest I am finding it difficult to believe I am actually pregnant. I was thinking of booking a private scan in a week or two to check all is well but like you Allstars I think I may be too scared to go through with it! My next NHS scan is 5 weeks today ? I hate that it?s called the anomaly scan, burying my head in the sand about that one right now.

We told OH?s parents about the baby on Saturday, went down well in some respects, his mum is desperate for more grandchildren since his brother moved the two she had to LA. However she is freaking out about the fact we are not married and will bring scandal on the family (I am not joking they are just like Hyacinth and Richard from keeping up appearances, his mum a neurotic snob and his dad is the long suffering, lovely quiet one). She has been on the phone constantly since then pressurising us to get married before the baby is born but there is no way I?m waddling down the isle in a rush job, shot gun style do ? kind of takes the romance out of it doesn?t it! I just wish she would but out as it?s really none of her business and the only one who has a problem is her.

Other news is I have some work! I am going back to a place I used to work on a two month contract filling a gap while they are waiting for someone permanent to start. My OH works there (it?s where we met) and so do a few of my good friends so I?m looking forward to it and the money will really come in handy. It also works out well timings wise, not sure if I mentioned before but we are moving down to Brighton in May to be closer to friends and family and the fresh sea air. Just trying to figure out the logistics of it all and whether we try and sell our flat or rent it out.

Anyway gosh I?ve gone on haven?t I! Is everyone else is well? Can?t and Numpty how are your bumps coming on? Allstars I really hope you get the referral through soon I?m sure it will really help x

Hi everyone - sorry been a bit absent as was away over the weekend.

Been feeling a bit quiet, not sure why, but feeling a bit up and down about things. I'm getting kicks, which is good (though had a panic last week when didn't feel them for a while). But my mood is more to do with the dynamics. I've been so focused up til now on whether this baby will make it - and now I'm suddenly remembering how it will affect DS; and wondering if I'll be a good mum to 2 small children and hoping DS won't feel he's losing out; and whether DS will be able to sleep when baby cries (will be in same room); and whether I'll be able to catch up on sleep at all during the day with a toddler about etc etc. All probably the normal fears of adjusting dynamics. I would probably feel better if I could sleep properly now, but my dreams are still VERY odd and i'm regularly waking around 3 or 4am. I'm just hoping that I'm similar to Shangrila, insomnia and worries during pregnancy and true healing afterward (just read her latest post on the other thread).

Anyway, that's why I've not posted much of late; seems so trivial to be worried about these things when others are having to cope with loss and the sorrow of their baby not making it. Kittens and LittlePoot, thinking of you and sending virtual hot chocolate/warm blankets/cosy and comforting things your way. Kittens, hoping you get work to lose yourself in and LittlePoot, hope things aren't too hard for you at work given your colleague's situations. And I truly hope that things work out well for you, and quickly. Thinking of Mimsy too.

Katie - I think it is a frustrating time, that period when you're not seeing anyone (ie midwife/hospital) and are wondering what is happening. This time I started to feel movements around 16wks, though I think with DS it was probably later on. But once you do feel movements, it can be reassuring. They come and go (as mentioned above), but this bean tends to kick me at around 10.30/11pm so that's my regular time to be aware of it. On the bump front, I'm in my maternity clothes a lot earlier this time - I'm sure I got to around 6 months last time. And everytime I try to bid on Jeans from eBay, I lose. Ho hum. So got sweatshop clothes ordered from Asda instead (as DH says, probably made in the same sweatshop as the pricey ones from TopShop though).

I'm sorry you also have a stressed MOL to cope with (mother out-law). Doesn't she take any comfort that you actually have an idea of WHEN you are going to get married (did you say a Christmas/winter wedding?). That's not exactly a long time away. Perhaps it's just her initial fears surfacing; she may calm down once the news has sunk in a bit more... perhaps? I'm glad you've got some work in a place that should be nice to work at, and that it fits in with your house move. I'm from near Brighton myself, originally - went to 6th form and college there.

And Allstars, I think I dreaded the run up to my 18wk scan more than actually being there and going through it, even though the consultant was very quiet and spent a lot of time going over the heart - before saying all was fine. However I can equally understand your worries. Would you worry more if you didn't go to the scan...? Re speaking to someone/counselling, is there anyone who could speed things along - midwife, anyone you dealt with at the hospital last time? Otherwise I don't know whether it would help even to speak to a hospital chaplain. I spoke to a chaplain at our maternity hospital around the time we had Iola, and found it helpful. Anyway, I do hope you can get something sorted out soon.

Can't - I hope things are well with you, how many weeks are you now? How's your DD getting on with life? I got that book by the way, thanks for the recommendation . Katerina, if you're reading, hoping you're well too.

And of course to Lins, Shangrila and Mishtabel - hope your little ones are being good and cuddly and letting you sleep a little. And Mishtabel, really hoping you are BOTH getting a bit more sleep, and the monitors are behaving themselves.

Hope I've not missed anyone in this mammoth post, sorry if I have.

Love to all, xx

Hi all

Kitten and Littlepoot, hope you are doing okay today.

Allstars, I am the same before every scan. I have needed them though - because it helps me when having irrational panic moments. I think you need to do what your instinct suggests you should do, and just listen to the heartbeat if that would help you more. How many weeks are you now?

Katie, how annoying of your MIL (to be). I agree it's not her business and I reckon as the pregnancy progresses she will get used to it. As for the limbo period, do you get to see a midwife in that time? They listened to the heartbeat for me at 16 weeks, which helped. Agree the movements help though I have an anterior placenta which makes it hard to feel them early on. And it's often later with first babies. I told you, my bump took ages to come with DD. Apparently it's because you have good stomach muscles that the bump takes ages the first time - and then the next time they are already shot to pieces. I feel like a house end this time... enjoy feeling slim... and congrats on your job, good to have something to do and some money!

Hi Numpty, DD is fine, thanks, and seems interested in her sibling-to-be. She loves that book - hope your DS does, too. She's a veritable chatterbox these days. I too worry about the practicalities of a new baby - in between pregnancy worries. That is normal, I'm sure. We will adjust. I suppose the first time you're pregnant, it's all about you (and the baby) but the second time, there's a child already in top priority and it's hard to see how you will juggle it all. But we will... I am 32 weeks now and getting big, though I don't measure 32 weeks on that strange tape measure method the midwives use (is it me or is that just plain silly?).

Still panic from time to time that it's all going to go wrong. Hope I will experience the healing Shangrila talked about.

Thinking of you all.

Great news about the job Katie, and brilliant that your sickness has gone just in time too! How lovely that you're moving to Brighton. I love it down there, I half grew up there so I have a particular fondness for it. I will be in Hove visiting my granny tomorrow and my best friend in Worthing actually. Hope the sun makes an appearance!

LittlePoot, I'm glad you're feeling ok. I am ok for the most part, I kind of feel like I have bad PMT at the moment. My fuse is somewhat on the short side and I get grumpy quite easily at the moment. I'm sure that will pass.

I had a lovely job today though which really lifted my spirits and my confidence too. Lots of compliments on my work from my clients too. I can't wait to see the end result. It will be my first billboard ad but I don't think it is going to be in the UK. Shame.

Oh, yes, Littlepoot, I am planning to start trying again pretty much from now on. We'll see what happens. My mum and my gran both told me they had their menopause quite early in their 40s so I reckon I'd better crack on! How about you? How are things at work? Have you been able to speak to someone understanding to try and take some of the pressure off?

Katie, perhaps you should make sure your M-O-L realises that she is the only person you know who has a problem with you not being married before the baby comes and that it's actually the 21st Century now .

Numpty, I hope you're doing ok. I think it's natural to be anxious about how the dynamics of having a baby and toddler will work out. I'm sure it will all work itself out. Hope little one is wriggling a bit more. Do you know about 'counting the kicks'? If not, you can read about it here www.countthekicks.me/HowToCounttheKicks/HowTo/tabid/64/Default.aspx

Can't do, I hope you are feeling less anxious.

Mimsy, I hope you're doing ok.

Allstars, all good with you?

Thanks everyone for all your support. So sorry if I've forgotten anyone, I'm a bit dozy today!

Hello everyone

I have been hoping to join this thread for a while now and Friday confirmed that I now can!

I posted back here in November (Worst time of our lives, need some hope)after we had to let our baby go after a CVS test showed that 'Peanut' had Downs. Didn't think I could get through the last 3 months but I have and now I find myself pregnant (4w 2d) and feeling a whole host of emotions.

I am so sad that the magic has been taken out of the whole thing. Telling my partner was really odd. It was practically like 'do you want a cup of tea and by the way I'm pregnant!' He is of course very pleased but we are both so, so nervous and almost feel like we can get too attached. I'm know this is all normal but its such a shame it has to be like this.

This time we are not telling anyone until at least 12 weeks and even then I'm tempted to leave it until 30 weeks plus!! ;)
But I wanted to tell you all as its almost like I'm not telling anyone if you know what I mean plus sadly you all understand how hard this probably is.

Anyway just wanted to offload.
Thanks for listening.
xx

Welcome Nik and big congratulations!! We all know exactly how you are feeling and you are right it is a real shame it has to be so scary. I?m 15 weeks now and still haven?t told very many people at all ? it is beginning to feel more real though as time passes. Just take one day at a time and hang out on here with us

Kittens funnily enough I?m originally from Worthing and all my family is still there so say hi to it when you pop down! I?m glad you had a lovely job and hopefully it will be the start of many more to come, I would love to see the ad! Re. the TTC again I was actually wondering if the next thread should be along the lines of ?Women TTC or pregnant after a termination for abnormalities? ? soon as it could house all of us moving in a similar direction.

Hi can?t good to hear from you! Not long to go now is it? How exciting ? did you ever find out the sex of the baby or are you having a surprise? I actually don?t have my next MW apt until 22 weeks, not quite sure why. I do have a doppler at home though so I can listen to the heartbeat which is very reassuring. Obviously it can?t tell you that everything is growing and forming in the right way though which is also something I worry about.

Numpty I?m sure every second time mum has the worries you do but I?m sure everything will slot into place just fine when the baby is born. My mum told me my big sister used to climb into my cot and try and sit on my when I was a baby LOL but she soon got used to me being around, I have no doubts you will be a brilliant mum to both your children.

Re. the wedding we are thinking Christmas 2011 ? I think this year would be too much of a stress and I already have enough on my mind what with the baby, new job and moving house! Hopefully MOL will see she is fighting a losing battle soon though ? she better do anyway!

Love to everyone else ? esp Littlepoot ? hope you are ok honey xxx

Huge welcome to Nik and congratulations! It's a scary time - but it is exciting too. There is always a danger that something untoward might happen (says me, after finding out I'd miscarried last week), but the odds really are in your favour. And this is the crucial first step in the process - so well done! Please do unload as many bursts of both excitement and panic onto here - we've pretty much all been exactly where you are now and are happy to hold your hand through the coming weeks.

I'm doing remarkably ok - and now a tiny bit worried that I'm either exceptionally cold-hearted or setting myself up for a massive crash in a few more days/weeks. I've had a couple of really flat days, but managed to drag myself out into the garden today (even in the sleety snow) and plant some broad beans and measure out this year's veggie plot. Nice to do something a bit productive. I'm not sure when I'll go back into work, but I'll do some work at home tomorrow to ease myself back in. I'm signed off for the rest of the week, so I might take it and have a proper rest. Will probably be feeling guilty about it by tomorrow though and back in on Thursday, but we'll see. My work have been really understanding, and I don't think they're expecting me back this week. Not that bothered really - was already quite bored of my job, and the last couple of months stress has really sealed it. If I wasn't intending to be pregnant again as soon as possible I'd look seriously for something else. Probably best to stay put until I finally successfully get some maternity pay out of them.

Very jealous of your move to Brighton Katie. I moved here from Brighton about 3 years ago and would love to go back. I only moved to Cambridge because my then boyfriend/now husband was working here, but now he works from home so I could have stayed put! I'm always keeping an eye out for jobs down there so I might be back one day....

But as for your MIL to be - Christmas 2011 sounds like the perfect timing for your wedding and don't let her persuade you otherwise! Although maybe you shouldn't take advice from me - I was determined I didn't want to get married at all, and definitely not before having children. All that independence and feminist resolve disappeared in an instant though when my far more traditional man appeared with a lovely diamond and we were married by the end of the year.... Married is good though - you'll love it when you get there.

Sorry - I'm going on a bit. That's what happens when I spend all day in the house on my own! I hope Kittens is doing ok? And I'm getting very excited about the growing bumps. Although I clearly have no experience in such matters, I have no doubt that anyone as kind and wise as you guys Can't and Numpty will do a fantastic job managing your toddlers and impending arrivals. Just don't expect any sleep for a few more years.... xx

HI Kittens, Littlepoot, Numpty and everyone - I am doing well thanks. Just keeping busy with a toddler and having visitors in the house, makes it easier to go for hours and almost days without having thought about what has happened. I had a bit of a moment last week when watching One Born Every Minute when Joy and Fabio were talking about their MMC (know I probably shouldn't have watched but couldn't help myself- I love those sorts of programs).

Littlepoot I am impressed that you were gardening in this weather! The brisk air usually works wonders on mood, so it is a good thing for us I think. Work can wait, have a good rest.

Kittens congrats on the billboard ad. Your work up in lights! Must be a great feeling. I hope they send you pictures.

Welcome and congrats to Nik. You are in good hands with these ladies.

Allstarsprincess, good luck for scan tomorrow. Hope the iron is doing great things for you, too.

And Katiecubs, 15 weeks and you don't have a bump yet - you must have abs of steel! Are you a yoga Pilates person?
I am starting a pilates class tomorrow, hoping it helps me destress a bit.

Thank you all for your lovely warm welcome!

LittlePoot I just wanted to say how very sorry I am about your recent loss. I have been following your thread and been thinking of you. Life is so, so hard sometimes. But I think we are all exceptionally strong women to get through our losses. I don't think you are cold-hearted LittlePoot, but practicalities tend to take over I think to help us survive. I worried that I was moving on too quickly after losing Peanut but then Christmas knocked me back about 10 steps and I had to seek one to one help with the lovely ladies at ARC. Massive hugs to you and I hope you and yours are ok. xx

Katiecubs have you had many pregnancy symptoms? I know I'm only 4w 3d but it already feels different to the last one. I felt sick from 3 weeks and was a right mardy cow as well which is what first made me think I might be pg. However it all seems a bit quiet. My last pregnancy I hardly had many symptoms at all which worried me and I guess I'm worrying that if I don't get many again is it bad news like last time and is Jellybean ok. I am also the worlds worst worrier which doesn't help at all.

Anyway advice greatly recieved.
xxxx

Hi Mimsy- good to hear from you and I?m glad you are doing well! I am also watching One Born Every Minute and it has scared the hell out of me so far, it always seems to be quite touch and go! Not sure about the abs of steel, I am doing a yoga course at the minute but i have only just started it. It?s funny I think everyone seems to get bumps at such different stages, some people say from 12 weeks and others not until 5/6 months! I am getting thicker round the waist though but don?t look at all pregnant yet.

Littlepoot I?m glad you are doing well also ? you are very brave gardening in this weather! I wish I had your motivation though ? we recently decked our whole back yard as we couldn?t even grow grass properly! Don?t push yourself to go back to work earlier than you feel ready though, it sounds like they are understanding so take your time. Oh and let me know if you do ever move back to Brighton!

Nik re. symptoms my two pregnancies were very different. The first time I was really sick from around 5 weeks and this one had been much milder (I had no symptoms at all until 7.5 weeks so much so that I demanded an early scan at the EPU to see if all was ok ? it was). From what people have told me and I have read all pregnancies are different in terms of symptoms (first pregnancies are apparently worse and also the site the egg implants can affect things too). I know it?s really hard not to compare things though.

MIL situation is getting loads worse! I can home last night and OH was in tears (!) so stressed out. Apparently his mum now has dangerously high blood pressure all caused by the stress we are causing by having a baby out of marriage. He is really worried about her health, i am so pissed off that she is heaping this emotional blackmail on us when we really don?t need it. I would hate to see what happens to her blood pressure when something serious actually happens. I refuse to give in, not least because it would be impossible to organise the kind of wedding we want so quickly but also because if we do when will the demands ever stop. We are adults and she needs to realise it?s not all about her

Hello All,

I have been reading the thread but not wanting to post in case I somehow inadvertently change fate. Obviously this cannot happen but we were back at the hospital today for another scan/check etc and I was/am getting very superstitious. 17+4 today. It seems to strange to write this number down. When I saw it on screen it made me want to cry that we had got this far. It feels like such a huge amount of time but in reality we are not even halfway. Each day that is passing makes it easier though.

Everything is OK here though. We took DD to see her brother and the expression on her face when she saw him on screen was amazing. It felt like the circle was complete. I am starting to believe that things are going to be ok. My iron levels are back up and I feel much more ?awake?. I have even been given an appointment to speak to someone about how I am feeling. Due to see them for the first time next Tuesday. They have asked me to keep a note of how I am feeling in the meanwhile, that is the easy part as I have found that unless I write down what I am thinking each day I cannot sleep.

One thing that occurred to me today was that it is my DHs birthday next week, I hadn?t forgotten about it but think that I was avoiding this date as (you may remember) it was 2 days after his birthday last year that we found out our devastating news. I spoke to him about not doing anything to celebrate and he seemed relieved. He actually said ?I was hoping you would suggest that.? I might make us something nice to eat and perhaps just watch a film.

Katie - Great news about your work, one less thing to worry about. Sorry to hear about MIL though. She sounds like a very difficult person. You are right to stick with your plans though, as you have said if you give in once where do you end up.

Numpty - You will be a great mum. Coping with 2 DCs will be easy compared to the coping you have had to do in the last 14 months. I know how you feel worrying about DS feeling left out. I am sure he will be a great big brother and really suprise you.

Can?t - It must feel as though you are on the home stretch now. Those tape measurements are useless! With regards to the healing Shangrila mentioned. This may sound strange but somedays (today) I feel that I am actually in possesion of it. Then somehow it disappears. Like when you have a dream and you must remember it when you wake but cannot. I think that it is within our grasps but just wont reveal itself properly until we are really ready for it.

Nik74 - Welcome to the thread. Congratulations. FWIW, all of my pregnancies have been different. This time I was 6+1 before I even found out so don?t be worried by lack of / too many symptoms. Will you be under enhanced care this time?

Littlepoot - How are you? Being in the garden is so relaxing. It creates a diversion for when we need it most. I really envy that you have a veggie patch in your garden. We keep chickens and sadly they scratch up most young plants. I do grow at my allotment but would love to be able to step outside and switch modes.

Kittens - Short fuses are entirely acceptable. So is doziness. I hope you are ok.

Mimsy - Great to hear from you. Hope the pilates is fun.

Wow, I have gone on enough! Sorry if I have missed anyone. Thinking of you all. XX

Allstars thats great news about the scan and that you are starting to feel much more positive about everything, 17+4 wow I bet DD's face was lovely to see - how cute!

I hope you get through next week ok, i'm sure doing something quiet for DH's birthday will be just as nice. Next week may also be a little odd for me as Monday is my origional due date, wierdly i keepy having thoughts that i completely forget all about it and don't do anything to commemorate it in any way. I can't see how that would happen so i'm not sure why it keeps freaking me out!

Morning all, quick post as I need to get the day started (got playgroup to run this morning!).

Nik74 - I think I remember your name from before; it's good to be able to welcome you here, though we all understand how you feel - there is more anxiety after knowing what can happen. But take it a step at a time, a day at a time, and notch it up as another day for you and little bean together (although equally I know what you mean about not wanting to get too attached... but I think you do, anyway). I'm now around 21wks, and still only told people I've actually seen, as it's pretty obvious now that I'm pregnant. But it has been harder to tell people, I just feel reluctant to do it.

Kittens - the billboard ad sounds really exciting! Must be great to think your work will be up on a huge poster somewhere in the world. Thanks for asking about the kicks; there are days when all seems quiet, but I think it's because my concentration is elsewhere. Other days - like yesterday - feels like I've got a full-on jumble sale going on with sharp elbows and rummaging.

Katie - sorry that your MOL is getting so worked up. Yes, agree that you have to stand your ground, but is there any way to find out why she feels so strongly - is it purely for appearances, or is she more worried that something will go wrong with you and your other half? I think grandparents can have a lot of anxiety about missing out on their grandchildren growing up for that reason. Can you reassure her that things are rock-solid with you and your DP?? If it IS purely for appearances then she has to get her priorities straight!

This is not a short post any more! But must say hi to Allstars and Cant - I think the healing of Shangrila will only truly be with us once the baby is born and perhaps even a few weeks old, when we can truly accept that finally, everything IS ok. Until then there will be moments of fear and moments of reassurance - I think that is normal.

Bye for now, love to all and sorry to those I've not said hi to personally. xxx

Hello all, I hope everyone's doing ok. I'm feeling a lot better this week (apart from my cold, which I thought had gone but seems to have come back in the last couple of days). I think the work has helped as well as going down to the coast and spending time with some of my favorite people. My precious grandma who is more like a second mother to me, my auntie, and my oldest friend and her lovely kids all cheered me up no end.

Katie, how frustrating for you the situation with your MOL must be. It's really unfair to blame her health situation on you, that strikes me as being somewhat manipulative. Numpty has a point in that there may be more emotional reasons for her wanting you to be married before the little one comes along, but if that is the case she should be reassured by the fact that you actually intend to get married soon enough anyway. Stick to your guns. If she is that much of a Hyacinth Bouquet she won't want to be showing around wedding pics of you with a bump under your dress for the rest of time! Remind her that if that is the real reason then it won't be long before the "shame" is forgotten and can be swept under the carpet as opposed to the constant reminder every time she looks at the wedding picture with the heavily pregnant bride on the mantelpiece

Yes, I'm quite excited about the billboard. My work has been on TV a fair amount (mostly commercials and music videos) and in some magazines too. I have been doing this for a fair while now but print advertising is quite new to me so a billboard is great. Unfortunately I don't think it's going to be used in the UK but I will definitely get pictures for my portfolio and website. Last year was quite hilarious in terms of public exposure as I had a contract with Neutrogena where I was appearing (albeit, the size of a postage stamp) in Glamour Mag quite regularly last year giving make up/skincare tips.

Good point Kittens, lol to the 'heavily pregnant bride'. Katie, that's a really good way to put her off rushing you into a wedding, just start to talk about what dress you might be able to wear with an 8-month pregnant bump!!

Kittens - wish I'd seen you in Glamour Mag, will have to look out for it next time I'm at doctors surgery (they always seem to have magazines from at least a year ago...).

Ha ha the heavily pregnant bride thing is the main reason I don?t want to do it! She is hoping for a quick, quiet registry office job well before it gets to that stage though ? just not happening. On the reasons why she is reacting like this it?s purely because she is a total snob and is worried about what everyone will say, silly because no one else has a problem at all. Anyway the good news is she is apparently a little bit calmer about it all today so hopefully we are over the worst!

Your job sounds v. glamorous Kittens, would love to see the pics ? so glad you have had a lovely week

So her 'dangerously high blood pressure' is settling down then?! Oh Katie - good luck! And well done for standing your ground. x

I just made lemon meringue pie fairy cakes. Am quite impressed. Not exactly healthy, but they do look quite cute.

I could definitely get used to not going to work....

Oooh, LittlePoot that sounds lovely! Do you have a handy recipe? Mind you plain fairy cakes is about the extent of my baking at present, I don't know whether I'd even attempt lemon meringue pie fairy cakes...

Hi all

Hi Nik, welcome. It's incredibly scary being pregnant after being pregnant with a baby with an abnormality and the first trimester is hard. But it DOES pass; and we can hold your hands.

Good news on the scan, Allstars! It must seem real now.

Katie, your MOL sounds a right case. I can't believe she is so worked up about the marriage thing. Glad it is improving. Dont worry about the bump - it'll pop out one day. I hardly had abs of steel and mine took ages the first time. This time it was much faster.

Kittens, LittlePoot, glad you are both feeling stronger. Those cakes sound good... Kittens, congrats on the billboard success. Will you be TTC again soon?

All okay here, just tired, and feeling very sad because there is so much pain in our two threads at the moment...