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AIBU to want to move DD into her own room at 5 weeks?

189 replies

CucumberInMyBra · 24/05/2010 19:49

...I just think we might all sleep better.

At the moment, she sleeps in a moses basket next to our bed. I take her into her own room during the night for nappy changes and feeds, then bring her back into our room. I think she's a really light sleeper, so any snores or duvet rustles stop her settling back to sleep. And that in turn means she's pretty noisy throughout the night! Is it really mean to want to move her so early? Should I just suck it up and wait for another month or so? (She's big and long and stretches out so she won't fit in the basket much longer than that anyway!).

And for those of you who have moved a baby into their own room, how do I go about it without disrupting things too much? Thanks!

OP posts:
Ladyanonymous · 24/05/2010 20:10

Yep, SIDS advice does change and has since 1997 when my first child was born -

IMO the main thing that stays the same is smoking where you have young children. Even when not in the same room, you still have thousands of toxic fumes on you even when you get in from having a fag outside.

traceybath · 24/05/2010 20:13

Sorry Lady - I was just querying it changing every couple of years.

OP - its up to you of course but as others have said you need to weigh up the risks.

Also agree you could make life easier by only changing dirty nappies and feeding in bed - personally I always bf laying down and had a bedside cot so sleep disruption for me was minimal.

nowherewoman · 24/05/2010 20:13

I found it really reassuring to be able to hear ds moving about and making noise. Personally I would just suck it up.

ilovemountains · 24/05/2010 20:13

I moved my baby into her own room after two weeks (who is now 2.5) because none of us were getting any sleep. After looking at all the research and the odds (being a mathematician!) we decided it was worth the risk. But then it was a personal choice, and we didn't have any of the other risk factors. The best website I've found is here:
www.sidsandkids.org/
Also provides research on the new mattress per baby question!

Missus84 · 24/05/2010 20:16

Surely advice has changed since 1997 as more research has been done since then, so more is known about the risks?

CucumberInMyBra · 24/05/2010 20:17

Thanks again, everyone - I'll definitely look into the breathing monitor/pad but also will think a bit longer about moving her just yet. Cheers!

OP posts:
Ladyanonymous · 24/05/2010 20:17

My point being the changing advice often contradicts itself as more research is done.

Missus84 · 24/05/2010 20:18

So we should refer to the most recent advice then - which is the 6 months thing.

Ladyanonymous · 24/05/2010 20:20

We can all as parents choose to refer to whichever advice we want to.

We are all free thinkers.

I refer to common sense.

Aitch · 24/05/2010 20:23

people used to bind babies to a wooden board and hang them up on a hook on the wall... that's old advice as well. probably best to use the most up to date stuff though.

Missus84 · 24/05/2010 20:23

Sure you can

Ewe · 24/05/2010 20:23

YANBU to want to but I think YABU to actually do it.

Would you ever forgive yourself if something happened? It's such a small period of time, nap in the day, take it turns to sleep in on a weekend. Don't take unnecessary risks with your DD's life.

LittleOnePlusBun · 24/05/2010 20:24

I thought that the SIDS risk was reduced when baby is in your room due to the CO2 you exhale - it regulates baby's breathing. Does the same apply to nap times or is it just the long night period?

DD1 moved into her own room at 4 months and we all slept better, but 5 weeks seems to young IMO.

eatyourveg · 24/05/2010 20:26

ds 2 and 3 in their own room from day 1 with a monitor. for ds1 I slept in the nursery until he was 13 months. I assume I broke all the rules then with he younger two though it was never mentioned by teh HV as not being the norm.

seeker · 24/05/2010 20:28

Oh, and unless there is poo don't change nappies at night!

Ladyanonymous · 24/05/2010 20:29

I disagree, I take it all with a large pinch of salt.

Even people who carry out research have an agenda - funding etc etc etc.

While I agree its wise to look at and take on board the most up to date research I think as parents we also need to think for ourselves and apply common sense, which a dwindling few seem to do these days.

No research is gospel, unbiased, or without flaws.

Hence I see completely different advice being given out a few years after I was given differing advice.

When you guys who have babies now have kids who are in their early teens it will all have changed again and you'll think WTF,
what a load of bollox and seriously question it.

andiem · 24/05/2010 20:30

Sadly common sense is not always right. The SIDS advice is developed by analyzing the deaths of all babies who die of SIDS and comparing them to 4 healthy babies. They are then able to identify what was different about the care/lives of the babies who died. So far this has identified being put on your front to sleep, being in your own room, smoking, being too hot etc as all being significant risk factors. These factors have then been highlighted in the advice and people advised on how to reduce the risk. The back to sleep campign reduced the incidence of SIDS from approximate 4000 a year to about 250 a year.
I know why I followed the advice and would always back it up it is based on sound methodological research.

ilovemountains · 24/05/2010 20:30

Nothing to do with CO2:
"The protective effect of room sharing can be partially explained by increased adult supervision and observation of the baby. While this does not guarantee the baby?s safety, attentive and motivated parents may become aware of potentially dangerous situations such as the baby rolling into the tummy position or bedclothes covering the face and head, or baby movement
or distress."
from www.sidsandkids.org

nickytwotimes · 24/05/2010 20:32

How come on co-sleeping threads there is little mention of SIDS advice, yet when someone suggests putting a baby in another room it is constantly brought up?
I am genuinely wondering this - dc number 2 is imminent and I am considering co-sleeping and know I would get lots of supprt here, yet had I come here when ds was wee to say I was going to put him in his own room, I'd have been advised against it by most people. Yet FSIDS advises against both?

Missus84 · 24/05/2010 20:33

"Common sense" was to put babies to sleep on their fronts, since that's what most babies prefer and they sleep better that way. How would we know that was a risk without research?

Aitch · 24/05/2010 20:33

oh yes, i imagine the parents of teenagers who survived the board binding treatment were very smug indeed when they saw foolish victorian women pinning their children into cots.

Morloth · 24/05/2010 20:34

I too find the noises reassuring, what is really weird is that I wear earplugs to sleep so that I can't hear DH's snoring, but I can hear every movement/breath DS2 takes.

No danger of DS2 sleeping too deeply in our room, DH is like a freight train.

ilovemountains · 24/05/2010 20:34

Also room temperature has no impact either [EXCEPT extremes, but apparently Australian temperatures don't count as extremes], here:

www.sidsandkids.org/wp-content/uploads/Room-Temperature.pdf

The Australian incidence of SIDS has gone down as much as the UK rate, but without the insistence on specific room temperatures or new mattresses per baby.

Ladyanonymous · 24/05/2010 20:35

Look at Andrew Wakefeild - The MMR jab and the instances of Measles, Mumps and Rubella now. When my DS1 was about to have his MMR that hysteria was at its height.

Fibilou · 24/05/2010 20:36

"Even people who carry out research have an agenda - funding etc etc etc."

I am at a loss to think whch commercial interest could be served by advice to have a baby in the room with its parents for 6 months