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my new boyfriend says he is going to vote BNP

459 replies

susia · 02/05/2010 20:51

that's it really, I was really shocked and went into a bit of a rant. I can't believe someone I've been intimate with and been close to would vote bnp.

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LordVolAuVent · 02/05/2010 21:43

Yeah quite new, manicmummy -don't that often comment but sometimes you can't not...

DuelingFanjo · 02/05/2010 21:43

Jewish is not a nationality. English is. You can be English and Jewish.

JustAnotherManicMummy · 02/05/2010 21:44

Well welcome

Tryharder · 02/05/2010 21:44

OK; calm down everyone - it's very easy for us to say, oh dump him. I personally believe that a lot of people who will be voting BNP in the forthcoming election aren't necessarily "racist" or genuinely want every black person to be kicked out the country etc. I think a great many are fed up and disillusioned with the political system as it is, job losses, credit crunch etc etc etc and see voting for the BNP as a way of shaking up the system and expressing their discontent with the mainstream political parties and expressing their general feeling of disenfranchisement.

Presumably there are indeed people in this country who have lost out on jobs to cheaper more malleable immigrant workforce. I have said all along that the rise in popularity of the BNP is due to the fact that people like this (clearly not mumsnetters) have been ignored by mainstream politicians.

SpringHeeledJack · 02/05/2010 21:45

you're Jewish if your mother is Jewish, susia

it passes down the maternal line

dump him

susia · 02/05/2010 21:45

I asked him how he would reconcile himself had he been mixed race - as in he doesn't know his father and his father was obviously white but could easily not have been. He did admit that that he had no answer to that.

I also asked him whether he would be with me if I was black and he said no because he didn't find black women sexually attractive.

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Lulumaam · 02/05/2010 21:45

if your mum is jewish, you are jewish it follows the maternal line. and having a jewish great great grandfatehr would make you jewish enough for the BNP to not like you

as i asked before, could his afiliations damage your pofessional reputation

LordVolAuVent · 02/05/2010 21:46

Have you considered that he might dump you when/if he finds out you're half Jewish? That would be problem solved, but don't you think you should get in there first?

BarackObama · 02/05/2010 21:46

Can you please answer what you find attractive about this man?

Tryharder · 02/05/2010 21:47

Sorry, posted too early. What I wanted to say to the OP is: question him about his views. If he clearly is a racist then dump but if he is otherwise a nice guy who is pissed off because he lost his job, then, well, I might give him another chance.

susia · 02/05/2010 21:47

I know I am Jewish if my mother is. It's just not a conversation I wanted to have at that time. I was more concerned with dissuading him voting BNP.

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Chandra · 02/05/2010 21:48

"I also asked him whether he would be with me if I was black and he said no because he didn't find black women sexually attractive."

Susia, you had it clear there, if he can only see the outside and not even comment beyond appearance, he is either a bit short of brains or only interested in your appearance.

LordVolAuVent · 02/05/2010 21:48

That is no excuse Tryharder, there are better parties to give a protest vote to. Susia, did an immigrant get the job your bf lost?

scottishmummy · 02/05/2010 21:49

am lapsed Christian but comes up in context of discussing where schooled,upbringing etc.in way when meeting new friends/partner we discuss those salient things about ourselves,so yes am i suprised it hasnt come up given his views.bnp well known for holocaust denial.in fact nick griffin has suspended sentence conviction for holocaust denial

do you seek to rescue/shape mould him.sounds a bitty like some project to you

Janos · 02/05/2010 21:52

Why waste time trying to understand/sympathise him?

It's not your job to save him from himself.

Janos · 02/05/2010 21:52

Obviously I mean sympathise with him.

susia · 02/05/2010 21:53

no his political views would have no impact on my job - for one I am not high powered enough to make any difference, secondly the BNP is offensive but not illegal, third he is just my boyfriend and not me, fourth even if it was my views as long as I didn't publicise them I could vote who I wanted to.

And no an immigrant didn't get the job he lost.

To make this whole thread sound even worse, he has recently been sacked from his job as a prison officer for allegedly bullying an inmate. Now, I know what you will all say but I did genuinely believe he was innocent.

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Chandra · 02/05/2010 21:53

STOP THERE

Sasia has just learned the man she has been seeing for 3 months has a fascist inclination, she doesn't need to justify herself as if she was condoning his views or behaviour.

So be nice to her, if I were in her situation I would like to have someone to help me go through the shock and to re assure me that I'm not at all crazy for ignoring whatever goodness he may have and dump him for voting for the BNP.

JustAnotherManicMummy · 02/05/2010 21:55

tbh I don't think the OP has to tell her bf she's Jewish if it's not part of her day to day life.

If she was needing to be at home on Friday night to light the menorah I can understand how it might crop up in conversation:

"Free for a drink later?"
"No, I'm busy"
"Really? What are you doing?"
"Well..."

but if not then I don't see why she'd necessarily be sharing details of her family heritage at 3 months.

Although the fact they are arguing and he has decidely dubious views suggest that this relationship is probably not worth the bother.

At 3 months in you should be shagging like rabbits and very little else. IME

Lulumaam · 02/05/2010 21:55

so he is controlling

he was sacked from his job for alleged bullying

you've had a huge row this weeknd about sex

i think without the BNP issue, he sounds like a horror show of a boyfriend

giraffesCANdriveAcar · 02/05/2010 21:55

If it was me he would be an ex.

KillerCleavage · 02/05/2010 21:56

Had you been with him 3 years I could understand you finding it difficult to break away. But 3 months?

You say he's controlling and to me that is the bigger concern than how he intends to vote. I suggest you take a look at the relationships thread and read the stories of women who ignored the warning signs of controlling partners and are now desperately trying to break free years down the line with DC to consider.

scottishmummy · 02/05/2010 21:57

susia,your pants are on fore.embellishing tawdry tale

so lets see

He:bnp
You:Jewish
he: prison officer
you: flaky liberal

dont say it often but- imo made this is a up/embellished story

susia · 02/05/2010 21:58

honestly it's not made up!

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scottishmummy · 02/05/2010 21:59

stop being such a flake then

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