my new boyfriend says he is going to vote BNP

[susia]

that's it really, I was really shocked and went into a bit of a rant. I can't believe someone I've been intimate with and been close to would vote bnp.

Vexation that he got in first.

Would be interesting to know the race of the inmate, and his reaction to your "jewishness" (I do actually understand why it wasn't mentioned in the course of your relationship, although think for me I would have told him during BNP row), but not really the point. A bully's a bully whoever he bullies.

Hope you're ok my love, good luck.

thank you, yes am really pissed off he got in there first. have told a couple of RL friends and they are appalled by him too.

smallorange;

I think most people know about the BNP's history, I'd be suprised if many didn't tbh.

I grew up in an area of South london where the NF were well known, they were just part of the environment almost....(along with combat18 and the Chelsea headhunters)

believe me, the BNP has changed.

I honestly think NG is a good politician with British born people's interests at heart. He knew the party had to change and attract new support, and he has achieved that to a large extent.

Sorry, ShriekingH

NG has NOT CHANGED! FFS are you blind?

Oh I used to be a holocaust denying neo-Nazi but I'm all different now.......get a fucking grip.
Still cosying up with the KKK, still surrounded by criminals and old school facists, still blaming everything on immigrants and still spouting the same old shit, just prettied up a bit so voters with the IQ of a toast rack will vote for him.

RB;

They are a legal legit party of this country, people have every right to support them.

Susia - thank you for being so honest with us. Hope you find a decent man soon.

TSH

I'm gonna grab some sleep

Good to see you...

TSH

So what exactly is your point - that the BNP is not racist? (never mind subtle nuances) Do not try to argue that the Labour party is in any way comparable ffs

I don't give a monkey's arse what words are used / not used in the BNP manifesto.

I can see for myself what nasty thugs they are from the manifesto in any case 'remove the politically correct shackles which prevent the police from doing their job properly' = we think the police should be allowed to go around kicking the crap out of anyone they don't like the look of.

Dear god can't believe this has started up again.

What is the question?
I don't support Labour, so how am I hypocritical?

I'm not disagreeing that you have every right to support the BNP, you do of course. And I have every right to rant and rave and make it my mission to challenge every time I see reference to them. Thats called freedom.

Not having any insight into the workings of the Equality and Human rights commission, how on earth would I know that?

Have you read their manifestos?

And if you don't believe me, why not listen to Nick Griffin himself explain how they are lying to you (while sitting next to the ex-leader of the KKK, for those of us who do believe in guilt by association]]

Here

All I know is that I fail to see how it's constructive use of ones time to argue that what the BNP stands for is in any way defensible.

Or that they are 'no worse' than Labour.

Yes you have a right to vote for them. But they are fascists - so if you do, know this fact and own it.

Why? Do you think I'm actually working for them?

I know little about it. I do know that the BNP manifesto specifically mentions them, and they aren't fans.

" The BNP will repeal the Race Relations Act and all other far leftist social engineering projects, such as the Equalities and Human Rights Commission aimed at enforcing multiculturalism."

oh and also;
"The BNP will repeal the 1998 Human Rights Act
and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights"

"I've also personally encountered a few BNP supporters/Bnp-curious types too. A case in point - a previous work colleague of mine intends to vote BNP, on the grounds that they will endeavor to increase the state pension"

So it's ok to ignore the rest of their ideas because they have some good ones. Just a reminder, Hitler had some ideas that helped the Germans.. but there was some slightly bigger ideas that should possibly not have been put aside in favour of them.

"Anyone with "half a brain cell" should be aware that many muslims are incapable of terrorism but I would have thought that this logic could be applied, equally, to the BNPs electorate."

It's not a fair comparison. For one the Muslim faith does not seek to destroy all non-Muslims. And so the extremists are going against the grain. I think the best analogy of the terrorists is
"Extremists are to Islam, as the KKK is to Christianity"

On the other hand, the main theme for the BNP has always been "purification" of Britain, so really the non-racists are going against the grain. In my mind it's like someone saying "I'm a vegetarian but I eat meat" - it makes no sense.

"So please, lets not assume that the BNP have a monopoly on racism."

No one has assumed that, in fact, so far you are the only one to have said it.

Dp that isn't BNP history, it is BNP reality.

But enough. I think mumsnetters are wise enough to see them for what they are.

But the consitution as been declared as breaking equality laws - this year.

What about the BNP 'entertainment'? go to 1.20min

posie that is shocking

they are the same members today...so must have the same ideology, how can anyone dispute that?