"a full time mum"

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said whatsername on Relocationthingy.

Surely you're still a full time mum if you work. You're stull a mum anyway. no?

Ludicrous hair splitting.

What should we call people who look after their kids as opposed to working in paid employment outside the home?

Whatever term we used somebody would find a way of taking offence at it. It's just over sensitivity.

Christ, some people still say 'housewife'.

I just say I look after dd full-time, anyone offended by that? Sounds so silly to say SAHM in RL. TBH "full-time mum" sounds a wee bit twee to my ears but I certainly wouldn't mind if someone called me that. Not offended by "working mum" as implication that I don't work. Anyone who would say I was unemployed would get a slap though! I am very very employed indeed, TOO employed!

Oh and "housewife", no way am I one as I do very little housework, too busy cleaning up poo atm!

Oh Riv - ennn

We were going to be the nutfuckers!

Perhaps I will just have to answer the question honestly
Q what do you do
A mostly I just fuck about

oooooh
that doesn't work then

Riv-eeennnnn

there

See. I have got loads done today

it may seem ludicrous but I still think 'part time' is a worse phrase than 'stay at home'

No one would call a dad who works a 'part-time' dad, would they?

I never thoght this thread would get so big though!

I seem to remember a thread in which someone complained about being told when and where to be offended on MN. Seems that rules no longer applies.

Wants to join pags club - which trips off the tongue best wannabe idle rich or trainee idle rich

I'm just going to be idle I think.

yep. Idle works too.

I hate the phrase because it's used by mothers who don't work outside the home to put down mothers who do. I consider myself to be a full time mum, but I also work full time outside the home. No-one would ever say a father who worked outside the home was a part-time dad.

really?
"it is used by mothers to..."
Really?

that is a matter of fact and not simply your interpretation?

I have worked 'in the home' and 'outside the home'.
I have rarely used it as it goes. But when i did it was never to put down anyone.It was usually because of an absence of any alternative

Sensitive much indie?

I like rockinhippies "professional mum", but only because I freely admit to being a total amateur!
I'm a stayathomefulltimelayaboutunemployedstudentalcoholichadaproperjobsoncemum.....bit of a fecking mouthful, but in the interest of accuracy....

Have not read the whole thread but this expression does irritate me enormously. It is a patronising sloppy shorhand usually used in newspaper reports to describe a woman who does not have a paid job. And why 'mum' not mother? If they do have a job, it is always referenced - why? in an article today about some quads, the dad was referred to as 'Shane, a mechanic, aged 28' - could not see why on earth his age or his job were remotely of interest, unless relevant to the stroy, which it wasn't.

I work from home so am I SAHM or WOHM? I think I am WAHM, right?

I mean, work from home doing boring emails and making pointless phone calls and stuff, but getting paid quite handsomely for it. As well as, the rest of the time, working from home mopping up juice, changing nappies, picking up tiny pieces of playdoh etc etc.

Indie, nobody uses the term part time mother either, that's a strawman.

Nobody uses the expression full time mum to put anybody down - they just say it as it describes 'what they do all day'.

As another poster said, you don't do any job 'full time', you go home and sleep don't you. But it is normal, conventional etc to say I'm a full time whatever, meaning I do it five days a week for about 8 hours at a time.

Only on MN could this be seen as offensive imo.

You've obviously not met the mums in my playground, they definately have an agenda behind the statement. I'm not bothered by it, I don't feel the need to justify my choices to them, but there's definately condemnation in the phrase. I'm guessing you're all full time mumms who've responded to my comment.

So, let me get this right. I am a full time employee 40 hours a week, and that's full time. I am not a mum whilst I am at work (a fact which will no doubt baffle DD's teache with whom I was speaking at 1:00 and said I was her mum, but apparent I was to wait until after 5:00 to resume referring to myself as anyone's mum). I am however a mum from 5:00pm - until 8:00am M-F and all Day on SAturday and Sunday. So I am a mum for 128 hours a week and that is only part time.

I challenge the notion that I am not a mum whilst I am at work. That is a bunch of bologna because somethings in parenthood are never delegated no matter what time of day it is.

Indie I have never heard the term used to put mothers down. I really respect and even have a little envy of mothers who could be at home full time. I wish I had the finances and patience to do this.

Nobody said anybody wasn't a mum when they were at work.

I can't believe this conversation is for real.

I agree Morriszap, there are thinks worth getting worked up about. This to me, does not seem to be one of them.

indie
you don't need to guess whether I am a full time mum or not as I have said so.

But the notion that all SAHMs use full time mum as a put down is crap. It was crap when I was at work. And is crap now I am at home. It will remain crap whether I stay at home or go back to work.

The mums at your school could just be areses. Not really a basis for making assumptions for the rest of us.

There is a woman at my school who runs every day and she is a self centred twat. I don't assume that all runners are self centred twats