"a full time mum"

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said whatsername on Relocationthingy.

Surely you're still a full time mum if you work. You're stull a mum anyway. no?

Well any mother is a full-time Mum, my Mum hasn't stopped being my Mum because she lives 300 miles away. So it's not really an accurate term to distinguish someone who stays at home with their children.

Unemployed is accurate. Why not say "I'm not employed, I look after my children"

Next time I may say 'full time Mumsnetter, part time parent'

Once, applying for a mortgage, the IFA filling it in wrote "unemployed" for me, rather than SAHM. Even housewife would have been better then that!

I have however taken to writing "person of independent means" on official forms ....

Must say I don't like the term either, but I will express partiality as I am a mother who works outside the home as well. Tbh I don't like the inference that I am only a part time parent, but that might be my issue. Maybe all parents working outside the home should start describing their occupation as nurse/parent, or whatever?

I tend to say "Well, i have two small children....." With this face ->

Then say the rest of what i do... (which is to be self employed and have a part time job.)

Morloth, you're right.

Fancy a game of SAHM vs WOHM bingo?

10 points for each of the following

"missing out on precious moments"

"outsourcing childcare"

"dependent on a man"

"my child is very happy at nursery thank you"

the best was before I was married I joined weightwacthers and the leader insisted on writing "house-girlfriend" under occupation! anything would have been better than that I felt like a fool

Love that one Morloth " Lady of leisure" its brilliant!!!!!

Must say this doesn't really bother me, but I do despise the term "Domestic Technician" - have seen a few peeps on MN refer to themselves as this on their profile and it irritates the hell out of me!!

I just say "well I usually do x but at the moment I'm at home with my children". I don't feel I have to "justify" my lack of employment at all though.

Arf @ wohm who take offence at the use of full time mum and want sahms to call themselves unemployed

Thaerpy, anyone?

Yeah, it is just a phrase but I suppose it was the contect in which it was used. Kirsty thingumy bub found a house for a couple with something like 2 kids and another on the way. The mum had decided to be a SAHM but then when kirsty and Phil went back to see them after they had moved the woman explained that she had realised being a SAHM wasn't for her... cue Kirsy's voice over saying something to the effect that the woman had 'decided not to be full fime mum' which I thought was a bit of an odd thing to say.

Is that directed at me JV? Since when did you decide I'm a WOHM anyway?

I'm talking about accuracy couldn't care less about anyone else's insecurity complexes.

Yes Lotster - or Domestic Engineer...

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I'm not a fan of the term either.

We are all full-time Mums/Dads wherever we happen to be.

SAHM/D/P much better, though tbh me and ds rarely stay at home.

Not fond of 'housewife' at all.

I just tell poeple I am idle.

"What do you call yourself? "

at the moment, infertile har har.

When/if I manage a kid I will just call myself a mum or a mum with a job or something like that?

The terminology has sort of passed me by without incident. My husband used to say 'Academic' when he was a SAHH.

ps - this wasn't meant to spark a SAHM vs WOHM (what exactly is that?) argument.

JV, but it's OK for SAHM to be offended at the suggestion they refer to themselves as unemployed? Both points of view, both valid,not sure that the supporters of EITHER view need therapy?

Oh i have no idea what you do Sproggle.

But if its accuracy you're after then a sahm is employed. Put to work. Of use or service.

When I'm off with our first who is due in the summer I suspect I'll just say that I look after them, if asked what I do. I'll prob be off for a few years, I guess I had better think up something better!

God I'd love to be unemployed.

It does not really bother me but perhaps that is because I have a partner at home. When I am at work he assumes the full parenting role, so if something were to happen school would call him. He also does most of the day to day care for dd. I am quite unavailable during the working day. I don't see it as a slight on my parenting but a reflection of the fact we have a disision of labour that works for us.

They usually end in someone shouting "YES, BUT I DO ALL THAT TOO AND WORK"

HTH

Not offended I just dont think its accurate.

If we were talking about someone with inherited wealth, for instance, and they did full time voluntary work, they couldn't be called unemployed either.