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AIBU?

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For hating this teen phrase?

216 replies

Enchilada81 · 13/02/2010 09:00

Didn't put it in the subject header incase it offended anyone!

But basically DS has gotten into the habit of saying "spaz" a lot. For instance when DS2 couldn't get the PC working and then realised it wasn't plugged in DS1 said "you spaz!" etc.

I told him off and asked him not to say it but I think they're saying it that often at school it comes out too naturally.

When DS's friend was here the other night, DS was messing around and his friend said "come on, don't be a spaz"

Another variation is spaz attack. For instance "oh mum it was so funny in history today, everyone was messing around and Mr Smith ended up just having a total spaz attack!"

And now I've just seen on facebook he and some other teens on my friend list have joined a group called "Having a dream about falling over and then having a total spaz attack in my bed"

Am I over-reacting? should I still try and stop him even though it seems they're all saying it?

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2shoescoveredinhearts · 14/02/2010 18:00

ImSoNotTelling no they don't all becoma bullys. but by allowing the word to be "normalised" there is no one to stop them.
the excuse that "oh but they would find another way" is crap. so you could say that about anything, why bother to stop teens carrying knives, cos they will only find something else to use..........see crap isn't it.

pagwatch · 14/02/2010 18:11

I don't call anyone a twat who does not use retard or moron within my scope.

If that includes you then that is your choice.

i am not sure now though how to get my high horse into my self righteous bubble....

pagwatch · 14/02/2010 18:24

I also think that the thread is not about causing offense. It is about the manner.

I have no problem if people think I am a twat. i am sure that they do.

I object to the inherent cowardice/nastiness of using terms realted to disability as a vehicle to offend.

I have read all your posts. I know that you object to some terms that I also object to. I also know there are some we disgree upon.

Where we differ is that you think I should accept where you draw the line because it means something different to you.

I accept that you can draw the line where you like.I accept that you may view a word differently.

But I think it is up to me how I view you as a consquence, if you choose to continue to use it.

I am not sure what I am missing?

FabIsGoingToBeFabIn2010 · 14/02/2010 18:31

Have only read the OP.

You are not seriously saying YABU to want him to stop saying it because all the other kids are saying it?

How would you feel if they were calling everyone motherfuckers or cunts?

Caoimhe · 14/02/2010 18:53

pagwatch, you are very impressive

Goblinchild · 14/02/2010 19:40

I still think that my son's solution has a purity and simplicity that even the most linguistically and culturally confused individual could understand.
Although he'd love a high horse. With a shield on his arm and a lance in his hand...
Hold on, that's a song isn't it?

FabIsGoingToBeFabIn2010 · 14/02/2010 19:41

FFS they are saying it on ITV now .

ImSoNotTelling · 14/02/2010 20:37

2shoes I think we are basically saying the same thing ie that certain words should be picked up when used as there is no place for them in normal conversation, let alone when used against someone.

However I really do believe that there are young people out there who use words like this in conversaton ie not at people, and don't know/haven't thought about what they mean. And that those people are not using the words maliciously.

I can see we will have to disagree on that one though.

Re the knives - as with the words, the answer is education and trying to remove the hate. Remove the desire to use the word/knife to cause hurt. I do think that taking a word/knife away won't make any difference, as they will simply use/get another one.

pooexplosionsareimproving · 14/02/2010 20:43

Twats. Judgey ridiculous stupid fucking twattish twats.

2shoescoveredinhearts · 14/02/2010 22:03

???

ThatVikRinA22 · 14/02/2010 23:09

what is to defend about this? its insulting. end of story.
would you be vaguely interested if i told you how many times DS who has aspergers has had to endure taunts of "spac" or "spaz"? thats not funny or nice in any culture surely to god?

sarah293 · 15/02/2010 08:06

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pagwatch · 15/02/2010 08:12

I am quite relieved actually by the twatty twattish comments.

I was getting concerned that we were heading towards that moment of perfect irony when the people hectoring and lecturing about their right to use 'moron' or 'retard' because how they feel about that word is more important than how the SN community do, then complain about offensive language

The last time this came up one twat or other total hypocrite posted about how we were always just trying to be offended. I told her to fuck off. She got my post deleted!
I wouldn't have minded but she was too dim to see the irony..

penguin73 · 15/02/2010 08:17

I get so sick of trying to stop children at school using inappropriate language, only to be told that it must be ok as their parents let them do it.... This is rude, offensive and wrong and you are doing your child no favours by letting him use it.

onebadbaby · 15/02/2010 10:58

How about numpty?

PixieOnaLeaf · 15/02/2010 12:43

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