to think the pregnant woman on the train tutting at not being offered a seat was Being unreasonable?

[pinkyporker]

I will probably get jumped on here but having been a commuting pregnant lady on 3 occasions I am well aware of the discomfort standing on tube journeys can do.

However it really riled me the other day when a pregnant lady huffed and puffed and made loud comments on the train because she had not been offered a seat. Now I was standing but had I been sitting i wouldn't of offered a seat to her after her comments.

If she was 38 weeks pregnant as she so loudly claimed, then surely to is her career choice to work so late into pregnancy and she should consider the journey when making this decision.

Personally if I was that desperate and I have been I would just politely ask someone if they minded giving up their seat but I dont just expect it. There are many people who have problems standing where it is not obvious.

There was also a woman on my local paper complaining of the same.

Just wondered what other people thought. Should pregnant women expect a seat on public transport?

No all the lazy arsed bastards who didn't offer her a seat were.

Outrageous that no-one has any manners or consideration anymore.

OK she may have been charmless about it, but tbh at 38 weeks pregnant and having probably put up with weeks of savage commuters, she's probably well hacked off.

The fact that it's her "choice" to be on the tube is absolutely irrelevant. It's that sort of shitty attitude that justifies any discourtesy or selfishness. Old people who get on buses with arthritis - well the bastards have chosen to be there haven't they. Cyclists in the road who make us slow down when we drive - why should we be considerate of them, they chose to be there. FGS.

YABU. Someone should have offered her a seat and she was within her rights to be miffed.

I think an obviously pregnant woman should bloody well expect a seat, same as a person on crutches etc etc. What sort of society have we become where we tut in annoyance at someone less able than ourselves who has the cheek to expect to be treated with a little decency. Yes I know the people sitting down might all have had heart conditions or whatever but the chances of every person in that carriage having a good reason why they couldn't stand is pretty slim. And frankly, if you wouldn't have given your seat just because she tutted that's pretty disgraceful and also implied that you wouldn't have offered your seat automatically but waited until she got to the tutting stage before deciding.

AARRGGHH! Sometimes people drive me insane!

YABU. Yes she should expect a seat on public transport. Would you have the same attitude towards an elderly person who had to carry on working because the state pension is a joke? It would be their decision to carry on working rather than retiring. The pg lady may have needed to carry on working until the last minute.

oh for Chrissake listen to yourself..'as it happened I gave up 3 days before I had my first'..

now you can look up the word 'sanctimonious' as well.

OP = I think you know YABU so now you are adding on new info! Naughty!

OP is a daily Mail hack I reckon.

So why didn't she just ASK?

Wouldn't you?

YABU

"...then surely to is her career choice to work so late into pregnancy and she should consider the journey when making this decision"

Are you serious?

I totally disagree with you, and I can understand why she got so upset and decided to talk loud enough for everyone to listen.

Personally, I hope to raise my children to be courteous members of society and give their seats to people that clearly need it more.

'She got on with me and within seconds she was tutting and making comments. I dont think many people even realised that she was pregnant or had even seen her before they were being accused of being inhummane.'

you should have said this in your OP

makes it different if people didn't know she was preggers

i remember asking a young man if i could have his seat on a bus when i was very pregnant and he let me have it but said 'oh i thought you were just fat!!'
another time i offered my seat to a very pregnant lady on a train only to be told with a glare ' im pregnant ,not ill'
I do think YABU though , im sure people get huffy and tutty in lots of situations when on their daily commute and picking on the hormone packed heavily pregnant lady does you no favours

If you check my OP I am simply asking if Pregnant women should expect a seat. Not adding on info!! And no donnie I have been a MN member since 2003.

didn't know she was pregnant? how can you miss a 38 week belly?

and a DM fan since Time Immemorial, no doubt.

If you check my OP I am simply asking if Pregnant women should expect a seat.

Yes they should.

In all 3 of my pregnancy's and now my fourth, I have only ever been offered a seat on 3 occassions.

It's quite an unaminous decision on here but in RL people just dont give up seats.

I don't think pregnant women should expect a seat, because unfortunately lots of people are selfish and this type of situation does happen.

However it's wrong that no one gave her a seat, regardless of whether people disapproved of her tutting. I agree that asking politely would have been better but she was probably fed up with no one ever offering her a seat, as well as being hormonal and knackered!

YABU and suffering from an empathy bypass.

Perhaps she went about asking for the seat the wrong way but even so she should have been offered a one and was not being unreasonable to be annoyed. It's basic manners.

Can't believe we're even discussing this.

Yes pregnant women should expect a seat. It's just a few months in a woman's life where we shouldn't have to grin and bear it. If you as a woman cannot see that, then I despair.

If I had been you, I'd have been asking people to move on her behalf. Some people did this for me on the tube when I was pregnant and by God, did I appreciate it.

Poor woman. No wonder she was pissed off. Being 38 weeks pregnant puts a huge strain on the body.

I worked right up until my due date, which included commuting in on a train. I had no choice as main wage earner, and needed all my maternity leave for after the birth. I didn't ask for a seat until I felt I was about to faint (heard buzzing and all went black). Judging by how quickly people moved, I must have looked pretty green .

So yes, I would say pregnant women should definitely expect a seat.

There are usually seats at the end of the carriages that are designed for people less able to stand. I found it very hard to ask people to stand up for me when I was pregnant, I was too embarrassed. Most of the time I stood.

I got the 'you choose to work' comments too. Well no I didn't really. I had a pretty good idea that I would be a single parent so was simply trying to maximise my time in the office pre-baby to ensure I could have time off afterwards. In the end ds was born prem and my plans of only taking 4 months off were completely scuppered because of how poorly he was.

I would always offer my seat to someone in need and yes a pregnant woman is entitled to a seat. For those who don't have /like children I am happy to remind them that the future generation will be working to pay mine and your pension.

I disagree pinkyporker.

I commuted throughout my first pregnancy, and it was rare not to be offered a seat.

Maybe people who used the central line just had more empathy than on your particular route.

I think you have all got me wrong.

I think she should have been offered a seat but when she was not she should have asked.

By making the comments to her friends and tutting, people just pretended to ignore her.

The correct answer to "You choose to work" is "You choose to be selfish and try and justify it. But there is no justification".

why have we got you wrong?

you have been judgy, judgy in your OP and stated you wouldn't offer her seat

just beacsue someone doens't behave in the way YOU deem fit, doesn't mean they should be denied something, especially in this case ...