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Need the MN Jury because I am so angry I've lost all sense of perspective.

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NeedMNJury · 04/05/2009 14:39

Right, basic facts.

On Saturday some friends came up to stay for a night. She's a very close old friend from where we used to live, her dcs are similar ages to mine, our dh's get along, we haven't met up since the beginning of December so we decided to meet at our house.

They arrived early afternoon. We had lunch in the garden, a few drinks while the dcs played, all very relaxed and fun.

About 3pm dh receives a text from an old mate of his whose mum lives in our village. Does DH fancy a quick drink in the pub about 4pm?

DH hasn't seen this mate since the mate's dad's funeral at the end of November so we agreed that DH and Friend's DH would go and meet up with this mate in the pub while Friend and I took all 5 dcs for a walk with the dog then met them at the pub.

We duly turned up at the pub about 5pm. The 3 blokes were settled in nicely with their 2nd pint. Friend and I got drinks for ourselves and the dcs and spent the next hour dealing with dcs in the way that you do when you have 2x5yos, 2x 3yos and 1x 2yo with you in a public place. Pushing them on the swings, resolving fights, trying to stop them annoying the rest of the customers, etc.

The 3 blokes got through another 2 pints while we there and then the dcs got to the point about 6:30 where they really needed to go home. The 3 blokes still had about half a pint left to drink so Friend and I said that we'd start walking back with the dcs as long as they finished their drinks and came straight back.

I think so far I've been pretty reasonable, no? He's had time in the pub, dc-less. He's had a good couple of hours to catch up with his mate and have a few beers, now it's time for him to reassume parental duties.

The usually 15 minute walk home takes us 35 minutes because the dcs are knackered and getting stroppy. 2yo is in a buggy so at one point I'm carrying my 3yo on my shoulders while pushing the buggy, friend is carrying her 3yo while ensuring the 5yos don't get run over because there are no footpaths in our village.

By the time we get home there is still no sign of them.

I get the blow up mattress out of the garage (should have been DH's job), go upstairs and discover that at some point, unbeknown to us, 3 of them have snaffled the little packets of sugar from the pub and emptied them all over dc1's room.

So now I have to hoover the whole of dc1's room, blow up the mattress, make the bed, then get 3 exhausted dcs into bed. On my Own.

Friend did a great job of keeping them calm downstairs while I sorted upstairs.

DH and Friend's DH finally roll in about an hour and a quarter after we left the pub, just as we were getting the dcs upstairs.

DH puts our older 2 to bed while I deal with the 2yo who by that point has entirely lost the plot and has a screaming tantrum for half an hour before collapsing in exhaustion and I get him into bed.

DH has got the meal cooked by the time I get back downstairs (it was already made, he only had to put rice on and reheat the casserole) so we sit down to eat.

I manage about half of mine before dc3 starts crying. So up I go.

10 minutes later I come down. Couple more mouthfuls.

Dc2 starts crying, so up I go.

10 minutes later I come down. Couple more mouthfuls.

Dc3 starts crying again, so up I go.

All bloody evening.

I finally got to bed at 2 AM having not spent more than 15 minutes downstairs talking to my friends.

I was so bloody angry with him. I had to be civil with him yesterday while Friend was still here but in the evening I brought it up and he said he wasn't being unreasonable about it because he hadn't seen his mate for months and they stayed for longer because they were 'catching up'. Bear in mind that his mate currently spends about half the week at his mum's in our village so they have ample opportunity to meet up again pretty imminently.

I pointed out that I hadn't seen Friend for that long either and that I was quite looking forward to catching up with her with being constantly interrupted by dcs but I didn't get to do it because of him.

I then stormed off and went to bed so I'm still steaming about it today.

AIBU to be fuming and want him to apologise and accept he was completely out of order?

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scienceteacher · 04/05/2009 16:35

I am just pragmatic, Jury, after 23 years of marriage - and also hwen I think of what my DM and DMIL had to deal with. I don't think I could ever accuse DH of not doing his fair share, and I recognise that sometimes he goes about the call of duty and other times, he falls short. I would not want the tables to be turned and for me to be subject to the same judgment. I am not perfect, dh is not perfect. We get it right most of the time, however.

NeedMNJury · 04/05/2009 16:37

Tired from Saturday night, tired from last night when I was up from 2 until 4:30am again.

Tired from over 2 years of constant broken nights since dc3 was born.

Popsycal, yes to all of it. Thank you.

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StayFrosty · 04/05/2009 16:37

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NeedMNJury · 04/05/2009 16:41

Frosty, I do it all the time.

OH fuck it.

I should have posted this in Relationships really.

Thank you to those who can see beyond the surface moaning about the trivial stuff and are making me realise what this is really about.

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gardeningmum05 · 04/05/2009 16:41

definately agree with your last paragraph fosty!!

gardeningmum05 · 04/05/2009 16:41

sorry...frosty

pointydog · 04/05/2009 16:46

only skimmed through this thread but poor Jury - you just need an apology and a little bit of attention for half an hour.

Jury, you simmered in silnece for a bit too long. It's understandable, I've done it often enough myself, but you should h ave spoken out sooner.

dh had hours in the pub with friends and without children - bliss. He owes you one.

It can't be helped if dc3 only accepts you at night - you need to sort that out.

If your dh was a woman, he might have thought of letting you have a lie in in teh morning and then taking the dc out with the other man so that you and your friend could have a leisurely breakfast over coffee.

You should have told him to do this the night before. Remember next time

treedelivery · 04/05/2009 16:49

No it's not that op. Really. Just that in the scheme of the day, the hour in the pub perhaps didn't have to spoil it. Of course he should have come home, but I think the general idea has been to see the one hour in a less 'serious' way and to help you move on to a place where the bigger picture can be examined. Maybe less of a beating and more of a friendly 'never mind and have solero' as peter Kay says.

But knackered is not good, and bottom of pile is last place you should be.

dittany · 04/05/2009 16:50

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pointydog · 04/05/2009 16:50

yes, dittany, that would have been a good idea too. A great idea, in fact.

treedelivery · 04/05/2009 16:51

Good post Dittany. Conflict avoidance, I like it!

dittany · 04/05/2009 16:53

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beanieb · 04/05/2009 16:56

"I'm just shocked that the reason I am being unreasonable is that he's a man and was at the pub so his behaviour is only to be expected. Indeed, I should be pleased he actually came home at all and managed to get some dinner on."

whoever said that is wrong to say it's just because he's a man. I'd re-phrase it and say it's just because he's human and that's what happens sometimes in the circumstances you describe.

treedelivery · 04/05/2009 16:57

dittany - or maybe he would have suped up and gone home....am forever hopeful.

Op - what would have happened iyo?

Agree beanieb - human, temptation, predictable.

treedelivery · 04/05/2009 17:01

dittany - or maybe he would have suped up and gone home....am forever hopeful.

Op - what would have happened iyo?

Agree beanieb - human, temptation, predictable.

NeedMNJury · 04/05/2009 17:03

Most of the time, to be fair to him, he's not that bad.

But, give him a couple of beers and he instantly reverts to being single, childless and care free, in his head.

Dittany, I didn't want to come across as the nagging missus dragging him home in front of his mate. I wish I had though.

He made the casserole (last weekend, had neighbours over so doubled up and froze it). I do all the cooking that keeps us all alive, day to day. He does the cooking when we've got visitors because he enjoys it (and gets all the credit for being a great cook). I find it a chore rather than a pleasure these days so I hand it over to him.

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pointydog · 04/05/2009 17:05

I'd also tunr into a selfish idiot if left in a pub with friends and without children.

You need to decide when you'd like a little time to yourself and get him to cover childcare.

ilovethesun · 04/05/2009 17:09

Yanbu for being pissed off, but I kind of understand how you feel. It would have been lovely for you to have kicked back had a couple of glasses of wine with your friend and DH done the running about all evening. As it was perhaps it was just a bit too loose and not as well planned out as you would have hoped. Don't quietly fume at your DH, it's a bit passive agressive and will just be counterproductive.

As others have said chalk it up, then next time don't do the boozing during the day, concentrate on knackering the kids out, getting them fed, watered and in bed at a reasonable time, then let your catch up commence! I speak as the voice of experience here! I have spent many an evening at friends running up and down the stairs while everyone pours themselves another glass of wine. While it just makes me want to stamp my feet and say "I want to have a nice time too, it's not fair!"

MmeLindt · 04/05/2009 17:10

I agree with Dittany, that would have been a good idea, sending the men home with the DC.

I am also a bit that the majority of posters think that it is ok for the men to stay an extra hour in the pub, after he had been there all afternoon.

He had his time off, it was his turn to step up and take his responsibilities seriously.

YANBU

IDidntRaiseAThief · 04/05/2009 17:10

op you say

'It's about broken promises and feeling unappreciated'

you've over reacted to something, but the picture is broader.

dittany · 04/05/2009 17:10

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MmeLindt · 04/05/2009 17:12

It is something that should be agreed to in advance.

DH is on duty for the first half of the day, DW the second half.

Why should the men sit around drinking beer and the women run after the DC all day?

dittany · 04/05/2009 17:13

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treedelivery · 04/05/2009 17:15

I don't think is is ok for him to stay an extra hour in pub - but I wouldn't let it spoil my day or weekend. So it's a split yonbu but yabu to take it so personally.

Unless there is more going on here and it's straw on camel back etc etc.

Bathsheba · 04/05/2009 17:17

"I am also a bit hmm that the majority of posters think that it is ok for the men to stay an extra hour in the pub, after he had been there all afternoon."

Oh trust me MmeLindt - I'm not "okay" with it...however I KNOW its going to happen so I put up with it, and know to write off expecting my DH's help/consideration/respect/thoughtfullness for the rest of the day..

I've cried, I've been furious, I've been upset - all of that over the years...its made not a blind jot of diffrence and thats just how he is when he has had a few pints - not because he is a bloke, but thats just how Mr Bathsheba is and how the drinking culture he has grown up in in this part of the world, full of rounds and buying drinks and buy-backs and the symbolism and paranoia ("Mr Bathsheba didn't stand his hand..." would be the worst thing that could ever ever be said) has moulded him to be...

11 years in I KNOW, for MY OWN SANITY that this is how it is - I've not accepted this behaviour as an example of being a doormat and letting him walk all over me - I;'ve accepted this behaviour because that is how I stop myself from being upset...he isn't going to change, thats how he is. Whether or not that upsets me and causes a huge amount of resentment on my part is something I'm in control of, not him