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to expect that my dc should be able to play outdoors without being subjected to porn?

213 replies

cariboo · 22/04/2009 12:24

Dc & other neighbors riding bikes & scooters Sunday afternoon. I looked out to see that an older boy (12) was shoving a book in my dd's face (she's 8), forcing her & others to look. Dd covered ds' & neighbor girl's eyes with her hands (they're both 5), saying 'don't look, don't look'. I rush out, grab the book & see that it's an erotic comic book with drawings of naked men & women on the cover. Two other boys of around the same age are standing nearby, laughing. I shout at the boys, calling them dirty little perverts, where did you get this, how could you show such a thing to little kids, you should be ashamed of yourself, etc. Marched up to one boy's home, ready to blast the parents into orbit. No answer. So I call the police, who refer me to the child protection agency (closed on Sunday, of course). Meanwhile, dh is having more success locating parents who get a stern warning to keep their kid away from our dcs.

Should I contact the child protection agency or am I over-reacting? Other parents with little ones involved have now forbidden their dcs to leave their own gardens but it seems such a shame to keep them practically chained to the house.

We live in a hamlet, btw so no access to local park or playground without taking the car.

OP posts:
OrmIrian · 22/04/2009 13:30

The Op didn't say the children were upset. She made it clear that she was.

JosieMiller · 22/04/2009 13:30

I am saying that little incidences of bullying, using ones power over someone, start with minor ofences where the lines have not been drawn for these boys.

HOW humilating for the girls.

Nancy66 · 22/04/2009 13:32

I did read the thread properly thanks - and still think the OP is being OTT and stupid about the whole thing.

BitOfFun · 22/04/2009 13:32

Hentai or not, aren't we talking about something fairly briefly waggled, not studied frame-by-frame like I would have done at that age ?

Speak to parents if you must, and by all means tell your daughters that boys smell and are very silly most of the time, but FGS, involving the police is ridiculous...

VinoEsmeralda · 22/04/2009 13:33

I agree too, very OTT.

OrmIrian · 22/04/2009 13:35

Exactly bof. Unless they made the children look at pages in detail I suspect they saw very little apart from brief glimpses.

Not that they boys shouldn't have been dealt with firmly of course. But not by the police and not be being described as 'dirty little perverts'.

Mutt · 22/04/2009 13:35

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BigBellasBeerBelly · 22/04/2009 13:35

Thanks eve I gathered that

I always find these threads quite funny.

Position: The op is OTT and stupid

Response: Are you aware that many comics which contain nudity/sex contain images of rape, other sexual violence, sexual torture, child abuse. And are very graphic.

Position: Don't care. OP is OTT and stupid.

But we don't know what they had been forced to look at, so how can an absolute position be taken when the full facts are not known?

I love AIBU

TheHedgeWitchIsNAK · 22/04/2009 13:37

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zookeeper · 22/04/2009 13:37

"marched up to one boys' home, ready to blast the parents into orbit"

What a ridiculous overreaction

tootyflooty · 22/04/2009 13:38

given current events concerning young boys who tortured 2 other boys, I think you did the right thing, this is not normal behaviour for children of that age.I would pursue this, even if it only scares the other boys into realising what they did was very wrong. incidentally how did the parents react

Nancy66 · 22/04/2009 13:39

tooty - what? This is ENTIRELY NORMAL behaviour for boys of that age!

seeker · 22/04/2009 13:39

I don't think anyone is saying that the boys shouldn't have been told off, their book confiscated and their parents told. Of course they shouldn't have done it. Nobody is saying it should be dismissed or ignored.

It's talk of bullying (unless this is part of a pattern of behaviour) perverts and humiliation that I find a little difficult to take.

And suggesting that this could be the first step to the boys becoming sex offenders is OUTRAGEOUS! As is comparing this to adult sexual bullying.

JosieMiller · 22/04/2009 13:39

It may be for your sons.

smallorange · 22/04/2009 13:40

Bitoffun - was wondering if someone would mention playing field porn!

Every few months we would find the road to school littered with 70's porn. And being little girls, we would shout EEEEWWWW! and run away from it!

It was a bit like Danny Nuttman showing us his privates in the school toilet.

This stuff goes on. I would have confiscated the mag, and told their parents and let them deal with it.

VinegarTitsThePorker · 22/04/2009 13:41

Regardless of what was in the mags, i still think the op's reaction was very bad in front of the small children, there was no need to be hysterical, she should have taken the boys out of earshot of the little ones and talked to them, carmly. Or just spoken to the parents, carmly.

Nancy66 · 22/04/2009 13:42

I don't have any sons Josie - or a pole up my arse.

donnie · 22/04/2009 13:42

I don't care how 'normal' some parents might think it is to thrust porn type material into little children's faces. If a 12 year old boy did that to either of my dds I would hit the fucking roof.

MintyyAeroEgg · 22/04/2009 13:43

Well we need more information from the op.

I did say, in my first post on the thread, that I thought op was bu to involve the police.

The op says the older boy was "forcing" the younger ones to look. If I was forced to do anything against my will then I think I would be pretty humiliated and upset by that, and I am 46, not 8 or 5.

morningpaper · 22/04/2009 13:43

What did the parents say? Did they explain where he got the mag? Did they seem apologetic? Otherwise, then yes I would keep my children in the garden and not let them into public areas where these children are playing.

Can you make tunnels under the gardens so that all the NICE children can play together?

I assume you still have the mag? Can you link to the sort of thing? I don't know really what sort of thing you mean.

Anyway it sounds vile and bullying and I don't think you are over-reacting at all.

TheHedgeWitchIsNAK · 22/04/2009 13:43

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morningpaper · 22/04/2009 13:44

hmm we need the following information before we can judge you properly:

  1. a link to the material
  2. info about how the parents reacted

come on we are waiting with our pitchforks

LauriefairycakeeatsCupid · 22/04/2009 13:45

Really? I was midly annoyed when dd's brother (who lives with another foster carer) showed her some drawn breasts in a comic.

It was typical behaviour of a silly thing that a child would do.

OrmIrian · 22/04/2009 13:45

Also

  1. How upset were the girls?
solidgoldshaggingbunnies · 22/04/2009 13:45

Ok so you have two aspects here: one is the bullying of younger children by an older one (forcing them to look at something they don't want to look at). That merits a word with the parents.
Secondly, that a 12-year-old had a book of sexually-explicit comic strips (that NONE of us know the content of: could have been hentai or BDSM cartoons, could have been a graphic novel with a few frames of nudity - please bear in mind that there is not a lot of 'hardcore porn' such as bukkake or gangbangs in comic strip form as the people who like that sort of thing generally want 'real' depictions of it) and that it was age-inappropriate material.
Both of these things merit a word with the 12-year-old's parents along the lines of: please tell your child not to bully others and please keep your adult reading material out of your child's reach.
However, the hysterical reaction of the OP is damaging to all the children concernedL few children do not, at some point, get hold of some age-inappropriate material (or get shown it by others) and few children do not, at some point, bully younger ones at least once. But labelling a 12-year-old as a pervert and a potential rapist over one incident is extremely damaging.