to think it is out of order taking 4 maternity leaves in a row from the same employer?

[bodybag]

this woman, i am supposed to work with has barly been there in 6 years!

don't you think it's a bit out of order from the same employer to have to cover all that for 1 person?

just because your employer expects existing employees to cover for her, it's hardly her fault.

And what IS your suggestion for how women should get money if they also want children? Hmm?

You seem to think it's ok for YOU to work AND have children.

Yes, you are.

x-posted, you already answered me! (disclaimer: am a crappy, slow typer)

Oh now I think you're a troll because of the tent comment so I can#t be arsed

Oh FFS. Women are legally entitled to as many maternity leaves as they want to have and that is a great thing for women's equality at work.

FWIW, my partner runs a large company where 95% of the workforce are women, and most of those are of childbearing age. He has constant maternity leaves to deal with - it's just a fact of life and he doesn't lose sleep over it.

I can understand why you feel that way because it's made your working life a bit tougher, but if women could not take paid maternity leave, as many times as they need, we might as well be back in the days when women had to either give up paid employment as soon as they got married or remain spinsters.

You can't have it both ways.

so, what if she then works for this employer for the next 30 years? will that make it ok?

wft??

YABU

no I didn't say that. What I said is that given an employer has to keep an exact job open for a woman who goes on maternity leave, it must be difficult for some employers, especially those who run smaller businesses, when they have to constantly spend money training up staff to cover maternity leave, time after time.

The woman is perfectly within her rights to have as many children as she wants, and it is not her responsibility to think of her employer, but given the law is all in favour of the woman, I do understand why some employers, esp those who run small businesses, are reluctant to employ women of child bearing age.

big black tent ? WTF?

ffs
TROLL COCK OFF

I've said it before but I think it bears repeating: if the difference between the success of a company and its failure is the poxy amount of money it costs to provide mat cover (and bear in mind stat min is paid by the GOVT not the employer) then it's not a viable business in the first place and shouldn#t be in business.

So I just don't buy that line, it's a crock of shite.

Phew coppertop, a return to sanity. You had me worried there.

bodybag - you buffoon.
Black horrid retro curtain tents are all the rage this season.
The woman is clearly overly fertile, but her fecundity has not dented her sense of style.

she probably does it to get a break from her horrible, nasty, insulting colleagues although with colleagues like you I'm surprised she even wants to come back to work.

Oh, and while we're at it, let's not bother educating women at all, or training them. After all, they'll only go and demote themselves because their employers offer family unfriendly working conditions and its better for them to work in a shop, or not at all.

And then if we euthanase women at 50, they won't be a drain on the pension system either.

Oh and let's not give women any benefits at all while they're procreating. To save on your taxes like.

Such a drain these birds aren't they?

I have a fabulous set of black out linings that I may fashion into a maternity frock. It would be wipeable as well, handy if my waters broke whilst wearing it. Fabulous idea you have given me bodybag.

Wilf if we don't train women, then how will they know how to please their men?

Do you like my new tent?
I made it from the hideous 70's curtains in the parlour.

Do NOT tell cod.

Let em starve and die, those women. That's what I say. Won't need any clothes then.

none of your business.
and don't be spiteful.

See I am going to be radical and say YANBU.

It's all very well for people to say it's fine and all that idealistic stuff, but the reality for most people in the private sector is that maternity leaves are covered for by teammates. And that means carrying someone else's work load. And if you are the person carrying someone else's workload, that's not easy and it's not particularly fair.

no she does it because she depserate for a girl. but keeps having boys.

i think 1 employer should only have to cover for 2 maybe 3 max ml's

well can i just say

my uncle owns his own business and employs 4 people (he is very well off atm)

all 4 of these people are young women

if all 4 get pregnant at the same time he fails. thats his rich life over.

so what if sh has 20 kids and is basically permantley on ml?

We are all individuals bodybag and QC, but we live in a society where reciprocity is the only answer to the war of all against all.

What else would you do, limit allowed children? What else would people do in your world: forced free labour while pregnant? Give up their job?